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Dude, you brew alcohol for a living.
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Dude, you brew alcohol for a living.
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People kill themselves with it when they don't know when to quit, just like boxing.
Multiple people failed for this guy to die like he did.
1. First rule of boxing: protect yourself at all times. He should have quit himself.
2. Ref's job is to stop the fight if someone is taking too much punishment
3. His trainer's job is to protect him from himself and stop the fight if need be
4. The fight doctor is supposed to inform the ref or corner to stop the fight if he sees anything.
Ultimately fighters know what they are signing up for. Nobody becomes a boxer by accident, ignorant of the risks.
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Come on Lithy...
Boxing is a sport, an art, and a battle. Moral compasses to be left at the door. It is just life
Boxing is a sport, an art, and a battle. Moral compasses to be left at the door. It is just life
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People taking part in an activity that is probably not all that good for them with an 'it won't happen to me' mentality because they enjoy it.
Be honest, have there been times in your life that you have drank more than the doctor approved guidelines? Is it beyond your understanding as to why someone would do that?
People do all kinds of possibly stupid shit for a buzz. Let's let adults be adults.
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To be clear, I never said that people shouldn't be allowed to do it or watch it, only that I don't find this outcome surprising and I personally can't understand watching or participating.
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Or drinking.
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It doesn’t take many punches to get brain damage. Single punches are low risk, it’s when boxers are hit with alternating punches that can cause instant brain damage. A ref should never let a boxer take repeated alternating blows to the head. The rapid acceleration and deceleration causes the bridges between the two halves to get damaged. This is why MMA ground and pound is stopped so quickly.
This could have been avoided if the Ref cared more about the boxers than the fans.
This could have been avoided if the Ref cared more about the boxers than the fans.
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His corner should all be barred from the sport too.
In between rounds they were literally begging him to let them stop the fight.
Their fucking job is to step in and stop the fight on the fighter's behalf when he's in no condition to continue. Even when he still wants to fight.
All it would have taken was for his trainer, assistant trainer, or cutman to stand up on the ring apron or throw in the towel and the ref would have immediately stopped the fight.
Not to mention the ringside doctor. This scenario is the whole reason there's such a thing as a ringside doctor.
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Keith Thurman broke multiple ribs in the Pacquiao fight.
Makes sense. You could see the fight going Thurman's way until Pac hit him with that huge body shot that rocked him 8n the later rounds.
Both guys are warriors. I'd watch a rematch.
Makes sense. You could see the fight going Thurman's way until Pac hit him with that huge body shot that rocked him 8n the later rounds.
Both guys are warriors. I'd watch a rematch.
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Exactly, it’s fucking sad. No matter how bad he wants to keep fighting, if he’s taking too many hits, just call it quits rather than risk your life for money. They all failed him, RIP.
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Yes sir. My fight of the year so far. Different but complementing styles, they really put it all into the fight. Was so impressed with what they did
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What I appreciated is that Thurman could likely have boxed to a boring decision win because he's taller, has more range, and has faster feet.
But he chose to engage with Pacquiao and fight him on his terms. It backfired because he got caught on that knockdown, but if he had won the fight in exciting fashion the reward would have been even greater.
But he chose to engage with Pacquiao and fight him on his terms. It backfired because he got caught on that knockdown, but if he had won the fight in exciting fashion the reward would have been even greater.
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Sadly, another boxer passes away after a fight.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2019-07-25/hugo-santillan-dies-boxing-death
"According to reports, Santillan’s nose started to bleed during the fourth round of his match Saturday in Buenos Aires.
But the boxer, known as Dinamita (Dynamite), kept fighting. By the end of the bout, which was ruled a draw, Santillan’s face was covered in blood. He fainted while the result was being announced and was rushed to the hospital."
This is sad and definitely another black eye for boxing.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2019-07-25/hugo-santillan-dies-boxing-death
"According to reports, Santillan’s nose started to bleed during the fourth round of his match Saturday in Buenos Aires.
But the boxer, known as Dinamita (Dynamite), kept fighting. By the end of the bout, which was ruled a draw, Santillan’s face was covered in blood. He fainted while the result was being announced and was rushed to the hospital."
This is sad and definitely another black eye for boxing.
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There is a chance Wilder might push the Fury rematch back to fight Andy Ruiz Jr if Ruiz beats Joshua again.
Fury already pushed the rematch back himself; Wilder wanted to do it this year and Fury decided not to.
The reason Wilder wants the Ruiz fight is because they are both promoted by PBC/Al Haymon and they fight on the same networks, so it'll be really easy to make.
Fury is Top Rank/ESPN and Joshua is Match Room/DAZN, so there's always going to be some politics there.
Personally, I think Wilder vs Fury II is the real world championship match but I'd still support Wilder collecting all the belts before the rematch.
Fury already pushed the rematch back himself; Wilder wanted to do it this year and Fury decided not to.
The reason Wilder wants the Ruiz fight is because they are both promoted by PBC/Al Haymon and they fight on the same networks, so it'll be really easy to make.
Fury is Top Rank/ESPN and Joshua is Match Room/DAZN, so there's always going to be some politics there.
Personally, I think Wilder vs Fury II is the real world championship match but I'd still support Wilder collecting all the belts before the rematch.
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Looks like Julian Williams vs Jarrett Hurd II is set for December 14.
Williams upset Hurd to win the WBA (Super), IBF, and IBO World Super Welterweight championships.
And now both fighters are #1 and #2 in the TBRB and Ring ratings, meaning this fight will be for the unified WBA (Super)/IBF/IBO/Ring/lineal championship.
There has not been a lineal champion at this weight class since Floyd Mayweather retired in 2015.
Williams upset Hurd to win the WBA (Super), IBF, and IBO World Super Welterweight championships.
And now both fighters are #1 and #2 in the TBRB and Ring ratings, meaning this fight will be for the unified WBA (Super)/IBF/IBO/Ring/lineal championship.
There has not been a lineal champion at this weight class since Floyd Mayweather retired in 2015.
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Joshua vs Ruiz rematch is confirmed for December 7 in Saudi Arabia.
It's a win for Ruiz that it isn't in the UK, where Joshua has often been the beneficiary of hometown reffing and judging.
Especially with that Dillian Whyte bullshit that went down last month. He failed a drug test before the Rivas fight but the UK Anti-Doping Agency decided not to inform Rivas, the WBC, or the other anti-doping agencies and let Whyte fight anyway pending an appeal that could take up to two years.
It's a win for Ruiz that it isn't in the UK, where Joshua has often been the beneficiary of hometown reffing and judging.
Especially with that Dillian Whyte bullshit that went down last month. He failed a drug test before the Rivas fight but the UK Anti-Doping Agency decided not to inform Rivas, the WBC, or the other anti-doping agencies and let Whyte fight anyway pending an appeal that could take up to two years.
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Big fight day.
This card is already going on ESPN, three big fights coming up
Charlie Edwards vs. Julio Cesar Martinez, 12 rounds, for Edwards' WBC flyweight title
Hughie Fury vs. Alexander Povetkin, 12 rounds, heavyweights
Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Luke Campbell, 12 rounds, for Lomachenko's WBO/WBA (Super)/Ring Magazine and vacant WBC lightweight title
Then later tonight on Fox you can watch Canelo's brother lose to Erislandy Lara for the vacant WBA (Regular) Super Welterweight Championship.
This card is already going on ESPN, three big fights coming up
Charlie Edwards vs. Julio Cesar Martinez, 12 rounds, for Edwards' WBC flyweight title
Hughie Fury vs. Alexander Povetkin, 12 rounds, heavyweights
Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Luke Campbell, 12 rounds, for Lomachenko's WBO/WBA (Super)/Ring Magazine and vacant WBC lightweight title
Then later tonight on Fox you can watch Canelo's brother lose to Erislandy Lara for the vacant WBA (Regular) Super Welterweight Championship.
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Deontay Wilder vs Luis Ortiz II finally confirmed for November 23 at the MGM Grand in Vegas.
And they're not gonna try to squeeze another PPV out of us; it'll be on Showtime.
The first fight was possibly fight of the year 2018 but I think Wilder has improved since then.
This should be a big indicator of how the Fury rematch will go.
The first time Wilder KO'd Ortiz in the 10th after nearly being knocked out himself in the 7th. Then he had the controversial split draw with Fury and the one round demolition of Breazeale.
If he takes Ortiz out in the first half of the fight, it's a sign that he'll do better against Fury.
The only other person to fight Wilder twice was Bermane Stiverne.
In the first fight, Stiverne was reigning WBC champion and Wilder won a unanimous 12 round decision (his only decision victory of his career). In the rematch, Wilder obliterated Stiverne with three first round knockdowns and KO.
And they're not gonna try to squeeze another PPV out of us; it'll be on Showtime.
The first fight was possibly fight of the year 2018 but I think Wilder has improved since then.
This should be a big indicator of how the Fury rematch will go.
The first time Wilder KO'd Ortiz in the 10th after nearly being knocked out himself in the 7th. Then he had the controversial split draw with Fury and the one round demolition of Breazeale.
If he takes Ortiz out in the first half of the fight, it's a sign that he'll do better against Fury.
The only other person to fight Wilder twice was Bermane Stiverne.
In the first fight, Stiverne was reigning WBC champion and Wilder won a unanimous 12 round decision (his only decision victory of his career). In the rematch, Wilder obliterated Stiverne with three first round knockdowns and KO.
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There's zero chance he's going to outbox Fury but there's a big chance he hits one of those sledgehammers in the first half of the fight instead of the end of it.
If Wilder hit Fury in the 3rd like he did in the 12th, Fury doesn't get up. Hell, the only reason he got up in the 12th was because of a slow count.
Wilder doesn't have to outbox Fury. He doesn't have to win a single round. He just has to land that one punch earlier.
If Wilder hit Fury in the 3rd like he did in the 12th, Fury doesn't get up. Hell, the only reason he got up in the 12th was because of a slow count.
Wilder doesn't have to outbox Fury. He doesn't have to win a single round. He just has to land that one punch earlier.
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Tyson Fury, Jaime Munguia, Naverette all fighting tonight.
Anybody watching?
Anybody watching?
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Very disappointing performance for Fury tonight.
He got the win, but he was mixing it up with a clearly overmatched opponent and got himself cut very badly.
That cut very much puts any potential February rematch with Wilder in doubt. Fury will likely need 90 days with no sparring at all to heal and then 8-12 weeks for a full training camp after that.
If Wilder beats Ortiz and Ruiz beats Joshua again, I expect they will fight each other for all the belts while Fury heals up.
It's all well and good for Fury. He did not look good tonight. He had an inspired performance against Wilder but he has looked very pedestrian in his other four fights since his comeback, all against sub par competition.
Whatever he brought to the ring for the first Wilder fight, he needs to find it again before a rematch. If he goes into a Wilder rematch like he did tonight against Wallin, someone in the audience is going home with Fury's head as a souvenir.
He got the win, but he was mixing it up with a clearly overmatched opponent and got himself cut very badly.
That cut very much puts any potential February rematch with Wilder in doubt. Fury will likely need 90 days with no sparring at all to heal and then 8-12 weeks for a full training camp after that.
If Wilder beats Ortiz and Ruiz beats Joshua again, I expect they will fight each other for all the belts while Fury heals up.
It's all well and good for Fury. He did not look good tonight. He had an inspired performance against Wilder but he has looked very pedestrian in his other four fights since his comeback, all against sub par competition.
Whatever he brought to the ring for the first Wilder fight, he needs to find it again before a rematch. If he goes into a Wilder rematch like he did tonight against Wallin, someone in the audience is going home with Fury's head as a souvenir.