BILLY KANE COMING TO THE CONSOLE VERSION OF KOF XIII

[cannonball]

From what I read on dreamcancel, there will be a pre-order bonus character, and they worded it to sound like this character wasn't Billy.

 

[alec]

Those console only backgrounds look great! The arcade game looks and plays great too. I'm ready for the home port, bring it on!

 

[Taiso]

Yeah, I'm not seeing anywhere that it's confirming Billy as a DLC character. There's some other character that's DLC but I don't know who that is.

I mean, he surely may be DLC, but I'm starting to doubt that.

Either way, it'll be fun to play as him.

 

[Poonman]

Flame Iori has DLC written all over him.

 

[Shito]

Too bad they used the stupid MI outfit for poor Lily Kane. The London tower bg looks lire realling something though. With Krauser, Laurence and (I guess) Axel really smell like GarouDen2 classic feel revamped in a totally bad-aees new style. PaoPaoCafé2 is also cool... should we expect Bob Wilson, then? Richard would be better fitting in the 'back to the basic' general feel of the game though...

 

[saner]

Since the Clock Tower screams Billy Kane, Pao Pao Cafe really appears to be a sign that Momoko will be added. She's the coolest (and newest generation) Capoeira fighter that first participated in KOFXI! Her flexible high skilled gameplay and athletic moves flow really well and it would be incredible having Momoko with KOFXII/XIII quality sprites and animations! She makes Capoeira fighting look awesome and gives advanced players plenty of stylish options!

And it would also reunite the Neo Psycho Soldier team formed in KOFXI. Momoko's involvement began during the Ash Crimson Saga, so all the more reason to add her to the playable selection!

Richard and Bob can spectate. This is KOF above all, not Fatal Fury. Momoko deserves an encore!

 

[Shito]

Have you realized they're putting more and more classic character in their original form since XII as the new game is meant to be a return to the basics as well as a new series foundation?

 

[evil wasabi]

Since the Clock Tower screams Billy Kane, Pao Pao Cafe really appears to be a sign that Momoko will be added. She's the coolest (and newest generation) Capoeira fighter that first participated in KOFXI! Her flexible high skilled gameplay and athletic moves flow really well and it would be incredible having Momoko with KOFXII/XIII quality sprites and animations! She makes Capoeira fighting look awesome and gives advanced players plenty of stylish options!

And it would also reunite the Neo Psycho Soldier team formed in KOFXI. Momoko's involvement began during the Ash Crimson Saga, so all the more reason to add her to the playable selection!

Richard and Bob can spectate. This is KOF above all, not Fatal Fury. Momoko deserves an encore!

No one cares, saner.

 

[Poonman]

Since the Clock Tower screams Billy Kane, Pao Pao Cafe really appears to be a sign that Momoko will be added. She's the coolest (and newest generation) Capoeira fighter that first participated in KOFXI! Her flexible high skilled gameplay and athletic moves flow really well and it would be incredible having Momoko with KOFXII/XIII quality sprites and animations! She makes Capoeira fighting look awesome and gives advanced players plenty of stylish options!

And it would also reunite the Neo Psycho Soldier team formed in KOFXI. Momoko's involvement began during the Ash Crimson Saga, so all the more reason to add her to the playable selection!

Richard and Bob can spectate. This is KOF above all, not Fatal Fury. Momoko deserves an encore!

...


I typed up a long and devastating response to this but instead I'll ask you a simple question:

If they brought Momoko back as a beautiful, developed adult woman would you still dig her?

 

[saner]

Have you realized the new game is meant to be a return to the basics as well as a new series foundation?

That was the basis of KOFXII. KOFXIII is a different story. It builds on top of the new foundation XII made, but it still continues were it left off in the grand KOF legacy. That doesn't mean they are going to place fighters like Michael Max, and Tung Fu Rue over the current saga's significant fighters like Adelheid or members of "Those from His Distant Land". Not saying those are being added, but they have a more significant meaningthan anyone that hasn't been involved in the last 3 KOFs. Just because Billy made it in doesn't necessarily mean KOF is going to entirely focus adding Garou or pre-Ash Saga additions. If anything, this saga needs a boss team made up of Those from His Distant Land/Those from the Past organization members that haven't been fought or playable before. Besides Saiki, 3 of the 9 other members could bring something new to KOF matches.

 

[Shito]

KOFXIII is just was KOFXII was supposed to be from the beginnning of the project, plus K' Team (not in the original KOFXII planned roster).

All chatactest in KOFXII-XIII are classic, back to their roots. Garou Team is GarouDen 1/2 like. Ryo and Robert are pure Ryuuko1 style and feel, Takuma and Yuri are Ryuuko2 style. Clark and Ralf are back to their original Ikari look, Athena and Kensou are back to their Psycho Soldier look. Kim is GarouDen2 like, and teamed uo with two classic character from GarouDen1.

Those are facts.

Only some KOF-original characters refreshed (Leona, Iori). Others are also back to their first form (Japan team).

The only Ash-arc characters to be present are those protagonists the story could just not miss (original Ash team, Elizabeth).

Forget Momoko. Stupid and unuseful character to begin with. The one and only character missing from KOFXIII is Adel, who was the 'other starring' of the current story arc.

Ash saga is a story of redemption. Redemption from own ancestors and bloodline (Ash), or redemption from own father (Adel). Adel ending in KOFXI points towards the evolution of the character, with his sister Rose being more and more involved in the plot (courtesy of Botan).

Again: forget Momoko. She was a mistake to begin with, just like Malin, Hinako, and all those stoopid gal-game like characters that never ever fitted in KOF.

 

[saner]

Stupid and unuseful character to begin with. The one and only character missing from KOFXIII is Adel, who was the 'other starring' of the current story arc.

Ash saga is a story of redemption. Redemption from own ancestors and bloodline (Ash), or redemption from own father (Adel). Adel ending in KOFXI points towards the evolution of the character, with his sister Rose being more and more involved in the plot (courtesy of Botan).

Again: She was a mistake to begin with, just like Malin, Hinako, and all those stoopid gal-game like characters that never ever fitted in KOF.

You are just stating your personal opinion about them. That doesn't make them stupid or useless. You are simply discriminating because their differences are too great for you to accept.

Okay how about a reasonable agreement.

If they added Momoko, Yamazaki, Botan, Adelheid, Iori98 and Saiki (with white or Dark Ash clothes), besides Billy. Would you be okay with that?

That would be something for everyone. Those that aren't bothered by young female fighter.

Those that want someone incredibly badass (and they are already getting a double dose with Billy and Adelheid counting in this category).

Those that expect at least one new playable villain that doesn't play like Ash and want more involvement from Those from the Past members in actual fights.

Those that want a Bernstein

flame Iori fans.

and main villain fans.

 

[Hakkai]

The anticipation for the US release is killing me, I want to play this game so much. Everyone's talking who they want and such but anyway probably go ahead and deduce. As much as I wouldn't care if Momoko came back, Bao's cameo in the PaoPao Cafe seems to pointing that way for now. Chang is probably out since he already make's a cameo appearance known in a background, unless they decide to do the street fighter IV route and remove it if he's playing story mode. This goes for every other cameo in game already (Bao, B.Jenet, Tizoc, Seth, Vanessa, Ramon, Shingo, etc.) There's 4 more known slots that was meant for XII, that doesn't include others they may add so who knows.

My top 10 possibilities?
Adel: in the previous 2 saga games, sister is throughout KOFXIII
Malin: in the previous 2 saga games + KOFXIII ending, has known spritework
Momoko: in the previous saga game + KOFXIII ending, has known spritework
Oswald: in the previous saga game + KOFXIII ending, has known spritework
Blue Mary: in the previous 2 saga games + KOFXIII ending
Whip: in the previous 2 saga games + KOFXIII ending
Yamazaki: in KOF03 + minor wanted poster cameo in KOFXIII
Gato: in the previous 2 saga games, Sister has cameo in KOFXIII ending
Hotaru: bonus KOFXI fighter, has an appearance in a KOFXIII ending.
Botan: appearances in the all saga games, possible appearance as fighter.

Doubtful:
Geese: Hasn't been in the previous saga yet, still alive in KOF universe though and no cameo in KOFXIII yet.
Rock: is a boy in KOF03/XI, Fatal Fury team ending in 03 had an easter-egg showing him and other Fatal Fury/MOTW characters but they all have different color schemes.
Choi: Has appearance in 03/XIII endings, may still have a cameo/fighter appearance with Chang cameo.
Ron: He's shown in KOFXI/KOFXIII ending but current story development is at a standstill, may wait till next saga if any.
Lin: He's shown with Ron in an earlier ending but that current story development is at a standstill,
Heidern: Supporting character throughout saga, doubtful.
Rose: Nonfighter supporting role. very doubtful.

 

[See4]

The anticipation for the US release is killing me, I want to play this game so much. Everyone's talking who they want and such but anyway probably go ahead and deduce. As much as I wouldn't care if Momoko came back, Bao's cameo in the PaoPao Cafe seems to pointing that way for now. Chang is probably out since he already make's a cameo appearance known in a background, unless they decide to do the street fighter IV route and remove it if he's playing story mode. This goes for every other cameo in game already (Bao, B.Jenet, Tizoc, Seth, Vanessa, Ramon, Shingo, etc.) There's 4 more known slots that was meant for XII, that doesn't include others they may add so who knows.

My top 10 possibilities?
Adel: in the previous 2 saga games, sister is throughout KOFXIII
Malin: in the previous 2 saga games + KOFXIII ending, has known spritework
Momoko: in the previous saga game + KOFXIII ending, has known spritework
Oswald: in the previous saga game + KOFXIII ending, has known spritework
Blue Mary: in the previous 2 saga games + KOFXIII ending
Whip: in the previous 2 saga games + KOFXIII ending
Yamazaki: in KOF03 + minor wanted poster cameo in KOFXIII
Gato: in the previous 2 saga games, Sister has cameo in KOFXIII ending
Hotaru: bonus KOFXI fighter, has an appearance in a KOFXIII ending.
Botan: appearances in the all saga games, possible appearance as fighter.

Doubtful:
Geese: Hasn't been in the previous saga yet, still alive in KOF universe though and no cameo in KOFXIII yet.
Rock: is a boy in KOF03/XI, Fatal Fury team ending in 03 had an easter-egg showing him and other Fatal Fury/MOTW characters but they all have different color schemes.
Choi: Has appearance in 03/XIII endings, may still have a cameo/fighter appearance with Chang cameo.
Ron: He's shown in KOFXI/KOFXIII ending but current story development is at a standstill, may wait till next saga if any.
Lin: He's shown with Ron in an earlier ending but that current story development is at a standstill,
Heidern: Supporting character throughout saga, doubtful.
Rose: Nonfighter supporting role. very doubtful.

Oh Man...what I wouldn't give to have Heidern back in XIII. Would equally want the return of Geese and Yamazaki, but i seriously doubt they'll be in the mix.

 

[Taiso]

My opinion:

Momoko is garbage.

Adelheid belongs in KOF XIII.

 

[Shito]

You are just stating your personal opinion about them. That doesn't make them stupid or useless. You are simply discriminating because their differences are too great for you to accept.

Okay how about a reasonable agreement.

If they added Momoko, Yamazaki, Botan, Adelheid, Iori98 and Saiki (with white or Dark Ash clothes), besides Billy. Would you be okay with that?

That would be something for everyone. Those that aren't bothered by young female fighter.

Those that want someone incredibly badass (and they are already getting a double dose with Billy and Adelheid counting in this category).

Those that expect at least one new playable villain that doesn't play like Ash and want more involvement from Those from the Past members in actual fights.

Those that want a Bernstein

flame Iori fans.

and main villain fans.

I am not bothered with "young female fighters" per se.

What SNK-P realized in the first place is the 'moe trend' of recent years was driving the KOF roster appeal into a dead-end of gayness and utter feminine idiocy. They intended to cut such a crap with the new start of the series that is KOFXII/XIII. That's not my personal option, that's the actual fact in front of our eyes, both in term of official statements by the authors and strict reality (the games themselves).

Yuri is OK to me. She has her (comical) backstory, she has her place and all. Athena is -of course- a true SNK icon and I think no one would ever disagree she deserves a place in any KOF roster. Kula is someway OK as well, being a major character in the K' storyline. But just random girls shaking their undersize butts for no reason in the middle of a fight, I can do without them. They just don't fit in KOF. They may fit in some other 'fighting' games with a totally different style and appeal, but not in KOF.

Yes, it would be nice to have a new villain team in KOFXIII, but you noticed the did not introduced a single new character for the game? They're rooting back the franchise to its basis and fundamentals. When you have to re-create all the historical iconic characters with new res, new style, new settei works, you just don't have to put out new characters as well.

 

[Shito]

(bah, what a crap the 5-minutes editing limit!)

Yes, it would be nice to have a new villain team in KOFXIII, but you noticed the did not introduced a single new character for the game? They're rooting back the franchise to its basis and fundamentals. When you have to re-create all the historical iconic characters with new res, new style, new settei works, you just don't have to put out new characters as well.

Iori98 (call him 'Flame Iori') will just be the same sprite with some different moves. Just an extra, something to be activated by pressing 'start' while selecting the regular character, you know the trick.

Forget Malin, Momoko, Oswald and all that '03/XI stuff. That's *exactly* was SNK-P is trying to bury for good with KOFXII/XIII.

Adelheid still has a chance, maybe. I hope for him to be in the game and in the story.
Blue Mary and Yamazaki may have some tight chances, is some other character is to be introduced.
Forget Whip. Her (fighting) style is just too 'modern' for KOFXII/XIII. K' team as a whole was not planned in the first place, for that very reason.
Forget and MotW character.

And forget Botan as well. She is part of the story just like Rose, but very unlikely to enter the fight. It would be hard to create an actual fighting style out of her characterization.

 

[k'_127]

Orochinagi's interview with Atlus after E3 2011

- KOFXIII had constantly attracted fans during the event, who expressed their excitement and hopes for the home release.

- The netcode is the #1 priority for this release. SNKP realizes it was KOFXII's biggest flop.

- Atlus' role revolves around the process of tweaking, refining, and optimizing the play experience.

- When GGPO was brought up by the interviewer, Atlus and SNKP stressed that they will provide a stable, high quality online play with no latency

- No English dubbing

- The home version will have its own story mode (?)

- The partnership came to be from the fact that Atlus has KOF fans among its staff. They also had a couple of partnership with SNKP, and they were very pleased when they tried KOFXIII.

 

[saner]

I feel Botan can fight. It's very possible, there have been many cases where manipulators have fighting capabilities on the front lines.

Take for example the puppeteers in various stories, they can manipulate lethal puppets with strings, as well as living people as weapons! Botan could probably wield Rose or maybe Magaki's body (kind of like assists, but part of the special moveset, like how Yuda in Hokuto No Ken has specials that summons minions to attack for them), there are many moveset/style possibilities for her!

And the other Those of the Past members have lots of potential too. KOFXIII shouldn't be just about bringing back basics/fundamentals/past favorites, because it cripples the story in the process.

And besides KOFXIII might be their last real KOF anyway so why not give Those from the Past more presence and involvement in the fighting, because obviously they will not be able to add everyones' classic favorites in this anyway?

They shouldn't jeopardize the weight of the story and significance of the antagonists for the sake of fanservice. Nothing is more pathetic than antagonists that don't fight, especially in the climax of the saga. They have all these inhuman and strong members, yet none of them fight at all in this tournament besides their leader. Get serious.....

 

[saner]

If they add at least Botan and one other, that would be at the minimum pretty decent, since Saiki will most likely be playable, so with 3 members, that technically would make a TFTP team possible in KOFXIII.

 

[YeldellGW]

KOF XII local play was underrated, but its downfall was the fact that the custom combo system was linked to a counterhit. After the first few months, this led to games where ppl just spammed standing Cs and Ds to regain control of a match. In XIII, you start a combo, BC activate, and continue into a custom combo. Much, much better system.

Never liked Custom Combos since their introduction in Alpha 2 and no amount of tweaking over the years/games has changed my dislike of them.

Could care less about Kane.

The only additional character I would care to see at this point would be 96 Kyo and I wouldn't hold my breath for that!

To the End!

 

[saner]

here are some latest rumors:

For those of you who don't speak french :
- It was a debug version of the game so there was a lot of unfinished tings like missing colors, musics, or unmoving stages...
- Billy was playable. Saiki was playable but NOT the muscular boss version of the arcade... It's the Saiki we see in the cut scenes, with a interesting movelist.
- 4 or 5 new stages. A temple with red torches, the Billy Big ben one, Betie's garden, one who takes place in a plane, a deserted alley... and the famous japan stage from KOF 96 totally redrawn in HD.
- This was posted on june 25 of this year ( before we knew anything about Billy, or/and the new stages... )

Confirmed:
1. Billy Kane (XII disc info then confirmed by SNKP)

Possible due to proof:
1. Saiki (XIII Countdown speech bubble artwork)
2. Iori95/98 (XII disc info)
3. Chang (XIII Blog artwork)
4. Momoko (XIII Blog artwork)
5. Malin (XIII Blog artwork)
6. Oswald (XIII Blog artwork)

Rumored with no proof:
1. Botan
2. Jhun
3. Choi
4. Adelhein
5. Yamazaki
6. Mary
7. Eiji

Hmm the red torches stage seems to hint a Those from the Past themed stage, this might improve Botan's playable chances!

That would be soooo incredible if KOF96 Japan stage remake is true! ;D

 

[evil wasabi]

That was the basis of KOFXII. KOFXIII is a different story. It builds on top of the new foundation XII made, but it still continues were it left off in the grand KOF legacy. That doesn't mean they are going to place fighters like Michael Max, and Tung Fu Rue over the current saga's significant fighters like Adelheid or members of "Those from His Distant Land". Not saying those are being added, but they have a more significant meaningthan anyone that hasn't been involved in the last 3 KOFs. Just because Billy made it in doesn't necessarily mean KOF is going to entirely focus adding Garou or pre-Ash Saga additions. If anything, this saga needs a boss team made up of Those from His Distant Land/Those from the Past organization members that haven't been fought or playable before. Besides Saiki, 3 of the 9 other members could bring something new to KOF matches.

No one cares, Saner.

 

[Blue Steel]

KOF '96 stage would be awesome. I really want Yamazaki and Choi, I'll take whatever else they give us too.

 

[SPINMASTER X]

new screenshots that show NEW BACKGROUNDS!!!

More, full-sized pics:

http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2011/07/01/kofxiii_screens/

MY BODY IS READY

p.s. Malin, Hinako and Momoko? Grow up, it's time to get over that weaboo shit. That shit tainted the KOF universe.