ARRGGHHHH - It is a PC after all!

[toy_brain]

We all knw it was gonna happen - and here it is..
<a href="http://xbox.ign.com/articles/382/382464p1.html" target="_blank">Xbox Unreal gets Patched</a>

Well I hope yer all happy now - myself along with lots of other Xbox owners can look forward to the wonders of having to patch our games just like those lucky buggers that own PC's.

This, sarcasm?
Surely not <img src="graemlins/makeface.gif" border="0" alt="[Make Face]" />

 

[kernow]

oh my lord, "only available through xbox live"

don't they realise console code is supposed to be tested thoroughly?

*sigh*

 

[Lastblade]

On the flip side, not all videogames made for ALL other game systems are BUG FREE. The Xbox has 2 distinct advantage, built-in ethernet adaptor and hard-drive to allow patching or addons.

 

[Plisken]

Unreal Xbox is plagued with slowdown - on split screen 4 players.

So how is this a bad thing, really?

better than releasing 'Unreal Championship Super Championship Edition EX' or something like that

 

[Takumaji]

Quote from the ign link:

"While the idea of being able to fix bugs in a game is great, let's hope development studios don't make a habit of rushing out unfinished games -- the last thing we all need is to have to download a new patch every few months."

That's about my opinion as well.

 

[buster_broon]

Originally posted by Plisken:
<strong>Unreal Xbox is plagued with slowdown - on split screen 4 players.

So how is this a bad thing, really?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

how about the term

QUALITY CONTROL

obviously r and d development didnt spend alot of time with this and just got it out as quick as they could

i have noticed tons of qlitches with big mutha truckers as well, on 1 biT around the 48 day mark there was no road and my truck fell and fell into nowhere

to me this is Microsoft trying to rape the buyer as they do with Pc software and updates, makes people want to buy Microsoft live so they can get a proper full game when its released in the uk in March

so feck them - i have a chipped X-box so i guess when i get home i will be visiting the Glasgow Barralands so i can buy Xbox 'teh romzzzzzzzzzz' to play on my console, no more money from me

wouldnt see Ninty doing this

BRING ON THE FLAMESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS



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[toy_brain]

Originally posted by buster_broon:
<strong>

i have noticed tons of qlitches with big mutha truckers as well, on 1 biT around the 48 day mark there was no road and my truck fell and fell into nowhere
</strong><hr></blockquote>I wonder if the same thing happens on the PS2 version.

The Xbox does seem to get shafted with a bunch of sloppy ports though.
Jedi Knight 2 is a rough-as-hell PC convesion, complete with a constantly changing framerate, and graphics that manage to look less impressive than Half-life.
Silent Hill 2 contains a lovely bug which results in monsters popping in and out of solid walls (and not in a scary way) and floating in mid-air.
And Splinter Cell is sorely lacking in v-syncing, which sometimes results in PC-like screen-tearing (I think Serious Sam also sufferes from this).

So, Microsoft's quality control?
Where is it?

 

[Lastblade]

Originally posted by toy_brain:
<strong>I wonder if the same thing happens on the PS2 version.

The Xbox does seem to get shafted with a bunch of sloppy ports though.
Jedi Knight 2 is a rough-as-hell PC convesion, complete with a constantly changing framerate, and graphics that manage to look less impressive than Half-life.
Silent Hill 2 contains a lovely bug which results in monsters popping in and out of solid walls (and not in a scary way) and floating in mid-air.
And Splinter Cell is sorely lacking in v-syncing, which sometimes results in PC-like screen-tearing (I think Serious Sam also sufferes from this).

So, Microsoft's quality control?
Where is it?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have SH2 and SC. I have never seen the SH2 monsters walking thru wall bug. Not saying it doesn't exist but I haven't seen it.

Splinter Cell, again, my screen never teared. Everything looks and plays peachy. But then again, I play it on a crappy TV so that might eliminate alot of problems, lol.

 

[Takumaji]

Originally posted by buster_broon:
<strong> [...] so feck them - i have a chipped X-box so i guess when i get home i will be visiting the Glasgow Barralands so i can buy Xbox 'teh romzzzzzzzzzz' to play on my console, no more money from me [...] </strong><hr></blockquote>

Terrific idea! <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" />

 

[toy_brain]

Originally posted by Lastblade:
<strong>

I have SH2 and SC. I have never seen the SH2 monsters walking thru wall bug. Not saying it doesn't exist but I haven't seen it.

Splinter Cell, again, my screen never teared. Everything looks and plays peachy. But then again, I play it on a crappy TV so that might eliminate alot of problems, lol.</strong><hr></blockquote>In SH2, the monsters tend to 'pop in and out' of walls if you hit them towards a wall - they seem to get stuck, then they 'ping' out of the wall in a slightly different location.

Splinter cells screen-tearing is not that noticable because its a fairly slow-paced game. If you spin around quickly you should see it happen.

 

[Caris Nautilus]

It's a patch for ONLINE play. The framerate drops like mad in online play, due to A/A. There are also like 5 nasty cheating glitches they will fix. You'd rather have them not fix them? So it can become like Socom on PS2?

You do know Final Fantasy 11 was patched like 3 times in Japan already don't you? PSO on GC was patched in Japan in the form of a 1.1 update disc.

Don't be so ignorant, all online games have unforseen bugs even with the best play testing.

At least Xbox can fix the problems easily.

PC's are the best gaming systems on the planet, and always will be, systems could gain a lot by becoming PC's.

You do know the Gamecube uses an ATI graphics card, an IBM CPU and a Apple OS right?

Stupidass.

[ January 14, 2003: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]</p>

 

[Kid Aphex]

Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

You do know the Gamecube uses an ATI graphics card, an IBM CPU and a Apple OS right?

Stupidass.

[ January 14, 2003: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fuck brains, all consoles are 'computers'.

The difference is, up until now there has been a significant difference in the way games have been played/delivered. The point is, the Xbox is blurring the line between Computer and Console more and more. Even a zit faced punk like you should be able to comprehend that without getting defensive like a toddler.

It is opinion whether or not you prefer that blurring.

Me? If I wanted a PC, I would buy a PC. Simple as that.

Hopefully no more fat-ass PC faggots hear of this news, sniff the air a few times, and migrate over to the Xbox. The last thing the console market needs is the ultimate ugliness/nerdiness of the PC gamer to further stigmatize its already damaged image.

 

[Shred]

Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>
You do know the Gamecube uses an ATI graphics card, an IBM CPU and a Apple OS right?

[ January 14, 2003: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well the Apple OS explains why they feel the need to put out a GC for almost every color of the rainbow.
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" />

 

[Shred]

Originally posted by Kid Aphex:
<strong>

Fuck brains, all consoles are 'computers'.

The difference is, up until now there has been a significant difference in the way games have been played/delivered. The point is, the Xbox is blurring the line between Computer and Console more and more. Even a zit faced punk like you should be able to comprehend that without getting defensive like a toddler.

It is opinion whether or not you prefer that blurring.

Me? If I wanted a PC, I would buy a PC. Simple as that.

Hopefully no more fat-ass PC faggots hear of this news, sniff the air a few times, and migrate over to the Xbox. The last thing the console market needs is the ultimate ugliness/nerdiness of the PC gamer to further stigmatize its already damaged image.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yeah cause we all know how much studs the people who hang out at the arcade all day are. Or the manly buff dudes who plays console games all day.

 

[Caris Nautilus]

Originally posted by Shred:
<strong>

Well the Apple OS explains why they feel the need to put out a GC for almost every color of the rainbow.
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[LOL]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm sure Steve Jobs got a cut of that too.

Why do you think they're so small? If Xbox is just a PC, than a GC is nothing but a wannabe Mac with no hard drive. <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" />

 

[Kid Aphex]

Originally posted by Shred:
<strong>


Yeah cause we all know how much studs the people who hang out at the arcade all day are. Or the manly buff dudes who plays console games all day.

</strong><hr></blockquote>


I don't know how unattractive you are, but I'm God. Speak for yourself.

 

[evil wasabi]

Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

I'm sure Steve Jobs got a cut of that too.

Why do you think they're so small? If Xbox is just a PC, than a GC is nothing but a wannabe Mac with no hard drive. <img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

CoughG4cubeCough

 

[Caris Nautilus]

Originally posted by Kid Aphex:
<strong>


I wanna know how attractive you are.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Dude watch out, he wants your jock.



[ January 14, 2003: Message edited by: Drift King EX ]</p>

 

[Shred]

Originally posted by Kid Aphex:
<strong>


I don't know how unattractive you are, but I'm God. Speak for yourself.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh well you told me.
Funny every person male or female I have ever met that thought they were god's gift were usually average looking at best. And usually completly obnoxious assholes to boot. Not that I am trying to say you are or anything. I could care less what you look like. <img src="graemlins/mrt2.gif" border="0" alt="[Mr T]" />

 

[Caris Nautilus]

Originally posted by Shred:
<strong>

Oh well you told me.
Funny every person male or female I have ever met that thought they were god's gift were usually average looking at best. And usually completly obnoxious assholes to boot. Not that I am trying to say you are or anything. I could care less what you look like. <img src="graemlins/mrt2.gif" border="0" alt="[Mr T]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

He's an obnoxious asshole alright, but I'm guessing he's more fugly than average looking.
<img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" />

 

[Kid Aphex]

Originally posted by Drift King EX:
<strong>

He's an obnoxious asshole alright, but I'm guessing he's more fugly than average looking.
<img src="graemlins/tickled.gif" border="0" alt="[Tickled]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

WOW! Two 15 year olds team up. Watch the insult garden grow; they may even cuss, or use graemlins to further their banal cause!

If you two dickweeds can't handle my good looks, don't cry to the whole forum. Just keep it to yourselves, babies.

 

[kernow]

an ATI graphics card, heh, its a custom designed GPU for a start with its own GL implementation, not an off the shelf purchasable card/chipset.

secondly its only ATI because they bought artx at last minute, bastards.

and as for the Apple OS comment, heh, heh, heh

 

[Shred]

Originally posted by Kid Aphex:
<strong>

WOW! Two 15 year olds team up. Watch the insult garden grow; they may even cuss, or use graemlins to further their banal cause!

If you two dickweeds can't handle my good looks, don't cry to the whole forum. Just keep it to yourselves, babies.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Talk about a 15 year old resorting to insults.

Originally posted by Kid Aphex:
<strong>

Fuck brains, all consoles are 'computers'.

The difference is, up until now there has been a significant difference in the way games have been played/delivered. The point is, the Xbox is blurring the line between Computer and Console more and more. Even a zit faced punk like you should be able to comprehend that without getting defensive like a toddler.

It is opinion whether or not you prefer that blurring.

Me? If I wanted a PC, I would buy a PC. Simple as that.

Hopefully no more fat-ass PC faggots hear of this news, sniff the air a few times, and migrate over to the Xbox. The last thing the console market needs is the ultimate ugliness/nerdiness of the PC gamer to further stigmatize its already damaged image.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And what kind of insecure little child would actually post how hot they think they are on the internet. Like anyone here can really see or would really care what you look like to begin with.

Funny the usual insult around here latly seems to be calling some one a 15 year old zit ridden punk. Hell I wish I was still 15 then I wouldn't have to worry about working to pay my bills.

Gee I seem to have not resorted to cussing well how do you like that!

 

[Shred]

Originally posted by kernow:
<strong>an ATI graphics card, heh, its a custom designed GPU for a start with its own GL implementation, not an off the shelf purchasable card/chipset.

secondly its only ATI because they bought artx at last minute, bastards.

and as for the Apple OS comment, heh, heh, heh</strong><hr></blockquote>

Its ATI because that is who Nintendo paid to design it for them. Just like Microsoft paid Nvidia to design and make a custom GeForce 4 GPU for the XBox.

 

[SSS]

this is good, tons of buggy games are released for all consoles. and the fact that a system exists that can fix such problems is a great start. Look forward to all future consoles by any manufacturer to support such features.