The_Chosen_One
Buriki One Master
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Got the clear on Punisher today, I feel like it is easier with Fury but I will probably practice a bit and try for a clear with Punisher as well.
What's next The_Chosen_One? Cabal?!
you better 1cc this, dont let us down
What's next The_Chosen_One? Cabal?!
you better 1cc this, dont let us down
Hey Neo-Geo dot com. I haven't posted here in a long time. I'm not even sure who changed my custom title and when.
I recently started a new series of streams on my Twitch channel where every Monday at 5pm Pacific / 8pm Eastern I go for 1 credit clears on arcade games, with the current goal being to re-do a bunch of my old 1CC's live. It'll also be great to have some motivation to go for some new ones.
http://www.twitch.tv/lordbbh
I'm putting all the highlights in a youtube playlist for easy reference later, so when anybody asks "have you 1CC'ed this game?" I can just point them in the direction of a video. It's only at ~50 games right now but it will increase into the hundreds soon enough. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzM8Fj-Rklts0rs5XGlQvdiMiQX1eJII6
This Monday's stream is going to be a bunch of Neo-Geo games, so figured y'all might be interested
Hey Neo-Geo dot com. I haven't posted here in a long time. I'm not even sure who changed my custom title and when.
I recently started a new series of streams on my Twitch channel where every Monday at 5pm Pacific / 8pm Eastern I go for 1 credit clears on arcade games, with the current goal being to re-do a bunch of my old 1CC's live. It'll also be great to have some motivation to go for some new ones.
http://www.twitch.tv/lordbbh
I'm putting all the highlights in a youtube playlist for easy reference later, so when anybody asks "have you 1CC'ed this game?" I can just point them in the direction of a video. It's only at ~50 games right now but it will increase into the hundreds soon enough. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzM8Fj-Rklts0rs5XGlQvdiMiQX1eJII6
This Monday's stream is going to be a bunch of Neo-Geo games, so figured y'all might be interested
Great clears, man! Your maglord is totally different from what I do but your score is also more than twice as high
These are the 1cc's I've done for the Neo Geo. Most of these were done decades ago, but I'll grab and post some screens of some recent 1cc sessions/completion runs. I was never much of a score player; I just played to get better at the game to not have to spend more money in the machine
3 Count Bout
BBH I'm really rusty but I recently came back to my Magician Lord 1cc project (on Neo CD which is easier than Level-4 MVS), it was really cool to see someone who knew what he was doing successfully clearing the game in one coin. Some interesting differences in between strategies and a clear gap between your abilities and my shitty ones... your stream recording really helped me figure out some tough parts though.
Much like MAME Roulette it's good to see someone giving Neo games the attention they deserve.
Kizuna Encounter... basically I want to 1CC as many Neo-Geo games as possible LOL
But, I mean, do fighting games really even count?
EDIT: What "counts" to someone is very subject.
Why DON'T they count? Are they not arcade games that have an ending?
Oh yes, they absolutely are arcade games with endings. But, IMO (the overwhelming majority) don't require even half of the understanding that's needed for a clear when compared to pretty much every other arcade genre. Though AI exploitation/manipulation is still the name of the game, I'm guessing that the AI for most fighting games weren't designed with the intention of "the quicker the single player game over, the higher the revenue". I think that job was left to the human opponent (assuming a game is received well enough to reap the benefits of this design choice, of course).
I understand that there is a small group of people who will play fighting games for score, and that can be cool/impressive, and this can provide a glimpse of a game through a lens that would otherwise be obscured/obstructed by having a pure 2P Vs. mentality. So again, like I said, what "counts" is up to the individual. I always set out to 1cc all of my favorite fighting games, but I don't find them noteworthy enough to mention in the same breath with beltscrollers, action games etc. They're a different animal, and a demonstration of a player's understanding of a fighting game's engine/mechanics/properties isn't necessarily highlighted through a 1 credit clear (while the same can't be said for most other arcade genres).
Anyway, I watched a video of a Mikado FHD tournament that you provided commentary for a while back, and I enjoyed it. Thanks.
Well I do get where you're coming from with this. Yes, fighting the CPU is completely different from fighting people, and learning patterns to beat the CPU often involves stuff that is not going to work in real matches against humans. Sure. But that's just it - it's new stuff you have to learn to be able to actually finish the game. In the end it's no different from learning level layouts and boss strategies in a platformer or belt-scroller or shmup or what have you. Does it show completely mastery of the game engine? Maybe not. In some fighting games though the game might not be 100% patternable, and you DO have to rely on fundamentals and knowledge of how the game engine works. You get farther if you have fundamentals of how the game works, so that's not really a bad thing I think?
It's all a case by case basis, but personally I'd be more impressed if someone posted a 1CC of Kaiser Knuckle than say, Metal Slug 1 or something. Even if they're exploiting AI loops, so what? If they put the time into learning how to abuse the game, I don't see why their accomplishment should be discounted. On the other hand you have games like Survival Arts where you can beat every CPU opponent except one using Kane's jumping roundhouse ass attack over and over, and that's not impressive. It goes both ways with fighting games, there are easy ones to finish if you're just trying to beat the CPU, but there are easy shmups like Prehistoric Isle 2 that aren't very hard to 1CC if you have basic shmup skills. Not every 1CC is created equal, but I don't think fighting games should always be automatically ignored. Everyone's entitled to their opinion though.
(also thanks! we're running an FHD tournament on my stream on November 21st btw)