Apple to Officially Allow Windows XP booting on Intel Macs - update

GregN

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Hackers have found a bigger audience for Viruses.
 

P00t

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Jesus, I bought my mac to get away from "Windoze", like im gonna put that shite OS on my mac :lolz:
 

BoriquaSNK

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Half Life 2 on an iMac?

Yeeeeeah.
 

Yodd

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I think this is a really smart move by Apple.


I am looking to dump all my desktop stuff, and would love to do so with an Apple portable. Up until now I need to keep a windows machine around for some software I use from time to time that has no Apple equal.

Now with this I can have the best of both worlds with one machine. Occasional game and oddball app on the Windows side, but the majority of everything else stay booted up with OSX.
 

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Curt, post your full picture. You look so much less "bish" in your avatar.
 

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Not to derail with intention, but am I the only one waiting to run OS X on a PC?

More of a curiosity than anything else, but I'm thinkin' it would be hot to try. Modular cheap tech with stability? Maybe?
 

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BoriquaSNK said:
Half Life 2 on an iMac?

Yeeeeeah.
Are the ATI cards that come with the Intel Macs DirectX compatible like the rest of the ATI line up, or are special Mac/Windows DirectX drivers going to have to be written?
 

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I am wondering if apple just took the source from the recent $13,000 prize Windows XP hack or actually developed this. Either way it was a given when the announced the move to Intel processors.

"Rumor" has it that Intel has a quad-core coming out soon, and this summer the new pro-towers will feature dual/quad quad-core processors. OS X and Windows will fricking scream on it!
 

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CrackerMessiah said:
Not to derail with intention, but am I the only one waiting to run OS X on a PC?

More of a curiosity than anything else, but I'm thinkin' it would be hot to try. Modular cheap tech with stability? Maybe?

People have been doing it for some time now, ever since the announcement of apple's "secret intel builds". http://osx86project.org/ has a ton of great information on this.

I had it installed on a Celeron D w/1gb ddr a few months back. Visual elements ran like shit because of incorrect video drivers.
 

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kernow said:
I can't believe you asked that.

you think they'd make a whole new card or something?

o_O
Not a whole new card, but optimize for OpenGL use is a possiblity
 

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dubdubdub said:
I am wondering if apple just took the source from the recent $13,000 prize Windows XP hack or actually developed this. Either way it was a given when the announced the move to Intel processors.

"Rumor" has it that Intel has a quad-core coming out soon, and this summer the new pro-towers will feature dual/quad quad-core processors. OS X and Windows will fricking scream on it!

Apple's been working on this for quite sometime, I think they released the beta to capitalize on the delay of vista and plug Leopard's version of Boot Camp and its upcoming support of Vista.

The non-apple xp on mac hack is waaaay too cumbersome for you're average joe...you have to reformat and you need access to a PC...plus it takes at least 4 hours if you know exactly what you are doing...it isn't worth it.

Boot Camp takes roughly 45 minutes, and 30 minutes of that are spent on Windows' self installer. I heart Apple.

The Quad-Core power lines are going to be nuts. Can't wait.
 

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Well I finally got Boot Camp working on my 20'' Intel iMac.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

I had some difficulty partitioning, had to move alot of stuff to another drive because it was giving me bogus errors, and it took me about a day to remember where my XP SP2 install disc was.

But man, it's fucking weird to be on XP on my Mac. The bluetooth KBD/Mouse is definately wonky, the eject button doesn't work, and having a single button mouse is sheer lunacy in XP.

Once intel macs update their firmware and update to OSX 10.4.6 BootCamp works pretty damn well. It's not too difficult to get it working, and I can see the layman having very little trouble with it. After it's done it's as easy as holding down the option button during bootup to select your OS.

But what about for games? I was able to finally install my copy of FEAR, and it ran....decent. I only have the 128 MB ATI card. :mad: I ran it at about 1400 pretty damn smooth. But everything was stretched because that game does not support the native resolution.

I honestly feel dirty running XP on my mac. And after this post, i'm going to bootup in OSX.
 

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I've also been messing around with some beta third party emulation called "Parallels."
http://www.parallels.com/en/download/mac/

This allows you to run Windows XP within OSX.

This actually works quite nicely as well. You don't have to make a physical partion, and the HD space grows as needed. You select the amount of RAM that you want to devot to the program and XP responds as such. I've found 500MB for XP, and 1GB for OSX is acceptable.

Now this copy of XP, is not the same copy i'm using with bootcamp, so technically I have 3 os's on my computer. 2 shitty 1 awesome.

I can see bootcamp being good for gaming, certain networking tasks, and the odd processor/memory intensive application. Bootcamp has the advantage of having all of the system resources being devoted to running windows.

I can see Parallels being more useful in day to day activities however, for simple windows only applications etc. It boots up within seconds and once your done you just exit and get back to OSX goodness. There are with both versions some trickiness accessing files from each OS. But that gets a bit complicated to discuss.

Linux next!
 

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lol linux next.. like its 3rd best or something
 

BoriquaSNK

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kernow said:
lol linux next.. like its 3rd best or something

As far as usefulness goes.

Regardless, thanks for posting this Curt. I'm graduating soon and the 20in iMac is gonna be my gift to myself.
 
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