Anyone with a Lynx...

[famicommander]

What you see there is a battery pack for the Atari Lynx. It will power the little battery-sucker for a full 20 hours on 6 D batteries.

I want to know if it's compatible with my SEGA Game Gear or my SEGA Nomad. If it is, my life would be complete. D batteries are cheaper than AA batteries where I buy them, and 20 hours is a long while.

I've asked this on Gamespot, the Atari Age forums, and my personal board. So far, no one knows. I was hoping that the all-knowing Neo gamers could help me out.

 

[SSS]

I know you said in your other thread that you hate emulation, well good for you and I'm not pushing to change your mind. But what responses are you expecting when you make these threads? 99.9% of the people here aren't lugging around battery bricks, or old handhelds for that matter. most either have a PSP or GP2X or even a DS to play old games on. It has nothing to do with piracy for the most part, it's convenience. It makes much more sense to load up a memory stick pro duo with old game gear/genesis games for a road trip. Then me lugging out my nomad and a box full of my old sega carts.

 

[dark penguin]

Wouldn't 2700 mah rechargeable AAs be much more convenient for you? You wouldn't get 20 hrs, but maybe 4 or 5?

 

[GregN]

I know you said in your other thread that you hate emulation, well good for you and I'm not pushing to change your mind. But what responses are you expecting when you make these threads? 99.9% of the people here aren't lugging around battery bricks, or old handhelds for that matter. most either have a PSP or GP2X or even a DS to play old games on. It has nothing to do with piracy for the most part, it's convenience. It makes much more sense to load up a memory stick pro duo with old game gear/genesis games for a road trip. Then me lugging out my nomad and a box full of my old sega carts.

Convenience is exactly the reason I don't do this.

You practically have to buy a separate PSP if you want to do romz and stuff because of that firmware BS. And you have to be a tech wiz to get that shit to work. I have patience for many things, but none when it comes to that stuff.

 

[fenikso]

The plug on the Lynx is much smaller than that of the Game Gear.

Lynx AC adapter outputs 9v 1A, with center pole negative.

Game Gear AC adapter outputs 10v 0.86A, with center pole positive.

It doesn't sound like it would be too compatible for the battery packs.

 

[not sonic]

why dont you get a car or ac adapter?

where the hell are you that youd use a giant battery brick anyway?

plane or train i suppose. even then.

just mod a psp. the battery seems to last forever in the slim.


and contrary to what gregn has said, modding a psp takes like a couple minutes. and the good retail games are so few and far between that youll never need to worry about having out of date firmware.

 

[SSS]

Convenience is exactly the reason I don't do this.

You practically have to buy a separate PSP if you want to do romz and stuff because of that firmware BS. And you have to be a tech wiz to get that shit to work. I have patience for many things, but none when it comes to that stuff.

well, you're wrong on both counts. so I don't know what to tell you.

 

[pixeljunkie]

I think MOST importantly...I have this battery back for my Lynx and "20 hours" is the craziest shit I've ever heard. You're only gonna' double your life on it actually.

 

[famicommander]

I've actually found someone on the Atari forums willing to sell me a battery pack modified to power my Game Gear and Nomad.

As for where I'm going to use it, school. I go back Monday and have random off-periods throughout the day. Rather than wasting the gas to go home I'm going to find a good place to sit down and play some Sonic. My backpack has a small hole designed for headphones to run through. I'm going to keep the battery in the backpack and run the cord through the hole. I carry my backpack with me the whole day anyway because I'm too lazy to find my locker.

And I don't want to mod my PSP for a few reasons:
1. Genesis games control like ass on a PSP. Especially ones that use the six-button controller. The Nomad is much better.

2. The fact that you do it for "convenience" doesn't mean it isn't piracy. You're taking an illegally copied ROM and illegally modifying your PSP to play it.

3. The battery life on my PSP Slim isn't much better than what I get with NiMH AA batteries on my Nomad in the first place. 6 hours on my PSP compared to 4 and 1/2 on the Nomad.

 

[SSS]

And I don't want to mod my PSP for a few reasons:
1. Genesis games control like ass on a PSP. Especially ones that use the six-button controller. The Nomad is much better.

2. The fact that you do it for "convenience" doesn't mean it isn't piracy. You're taking an illegally copied ROM and illegally modifying your PSP to play it.

3. The battery life on my PSP Slim isn't much better than what I get with NiMH AA batteries on my Nomad in the first place. 6 hours on my PSP compared to 4 and 1/2 on the Nomad.

1. X as A, O as B, R trig as C. L trig as X, square as Y, triangle as Z. where's the problem again?

2. Please explain how I "illegally" modified my PSP? If that were the case sony would have sued and shut down Dark Alex 2 years ago. If anything he has helped them move more hardware. Just because it voids any warranties with Sony, doesn't make it illegal. I paid for the hardware and can put whatever homebrew software I want on it.

Even if you don't choose to use the CFW for emulators, there are more than enough reasons to install it. There are plenty of homebrew applications and games that make it worth while.

3. really not sure where you're trying to go with this? PSP uses 1 tiny rechargable battery pack vs a package worth of AA's.

the ghosting and clarity of the nomad's screen is horrible. The nomad's only redeeming factor is it can be plugged up to a TV.

 

[not sonic]

youll probably get made fun of for playing a gigantic nomad or gamegear.

its just the truth.

 

[famicommander]

No one made fun of me for playing my Neo Geo Pocket Color or Game Gear at school last year. And even if they did make fun of me, it wouldn't bother me much.

At least no one will try to steal it. I got in a fight over my PSP once, when someone walked up and took it right out of my hands. I got it back and won the fight, but I would really rather not get in a fight every time I want to play video games.

 

[SSS]

No one made fun of me for playing my Neo Geo Pocket Color or Game Gear at school last year. And even if they did make fun of me, it wouldn't bother me much.

At least no one will try to steal it. I got in a fight over my PSP once, when someone walked up and took it right out of my hands. I got it back and won the fight, but I would really rather not get in a fight every time I want to play video games.

fuck bringing portables to class. back when I was in high school I had a terrible chemistry teacher. there was a bank of computers in the back, I had a cdr pack full of neo roms and neo ragex. I remember playing through Metal Slug X during homework review.

 

[famicommander]

fuck bringing portables to class. back when I was in high school I had a terrible chemistry teacher. there was a bank of computers in the back, I had a cdr pack full of neo roms and neo ragex. I remember playing through Metal Slug X during homework review.

It's my senior year, so I only have five out of eight possible classes. With three random off-periods plus lunch throughout the day, portability is the way to go. I've got a Game Gear, Nomad, NGPC, DS, PSP, and GBA SP to keep me occupied. It's kind of shitty though, because all of my friends are fuck ups and have to take full schedules in order to graduate. That's why I'll be gaming during my off periods rather than screwing around with my friends.

 

[BIG]

tell 'em sss!

 

[mungrin]

At least no one will try to steal it. I got in a fight over my PSP once, when someone walked up and took it right out of my hands. I got it back and won the fight, but I would really rather not get in a fight every time I want to play video games.

Doesnt sound like you won that fight.Sounds to me like they got that PSP and now you've been reduced to an Atari Lynx.

Just kidding but to be honest,ive owned just about every portable game system,even the Gameboy Lite.Once i was able to buy a PSP with CFW,i sold my Nomad,Turbo Express,GG and Lynx.These became novelties,collectables and i couldnt really ever play those systems comfortably on the road.They were too big and i was always worrying about batteries.Now i play all those games plus Neo PSX Nes,Snes,Gen TG16 watch movies,watch my cable TV,listen to music all on one small system.I can also play PSP games on it to but i rarely do that.

p.s.
I never got 4 hrs of gameplay on my Nomad and my PsP fits in my pocket.

 

[sketch]

Original Question

I'll go to the original question rather than get into the debate of handheld emulation. As you may have surmised, the Lynx battery pack is not compatible with the Nomad or Game Gear. Strangely, a Lynx power supply will run a Turbo Express, so I'm assuming that the Lynx battery pack will as well. So if you're an Express owner, you can probably get massive time out of your Express using the Lynx battery pack.

As an aside, the amount of grief someone gets for asking a simple question is pretty amazing. Who cares whether he prefers original hardware to emulation? He obviously posted because he likes using the older handheld hardware. That's his preference. Hard as it may be to believe, it is neither a "right" choice or a "wrong" one. Putting up with people's judgemental responses really makes it much less pleasant to post on any forum.

I also find the argument against original handheld equipment to be a bit bizarre on this forum. Most people here prefer Neo Geo hardware to emulation, so to find people saying handheld emulation is better than the real thing is just strange.

 

[mungrin]

As an aside, the amount of grief someone gets for asking a simple question is pretty amazing. Who cares whether he prefers original hardware to emulation? He obviously posted because he likes using the older handheld hardware. That's his preference. Hard as it may be to believe, it is neither a "right" choice or a "wrong" one. Putting up with people's judgemental responses really makes it much less pleasant to post on any forum.

I also find the argument against original handheld equipment to be a bit bizarre on this forum. Most people here prefer Neo Geo hardware to emulation, so to find people saying handheld emulation is better than the real thing is just strange.

We only respondeD cuz the TS was saying things that werent true thats all.

And I don't want to mod my PSP for a few reasons:
1. Genesis games control like ass on a PSP. Especially ones that use the six-button controller. The Nomad is much better.

2. The fact that you do it for "convenience" doesn't mean it isn't piracy. You're taking an illegally copied ROM and illegally modifying your PSP to play it.

3. The battery life on my PSP Slim isn't much better than what I get with NiMH AA batteries on my Nomad in the first place. 6 hours on my PSP compared to 4 and 1/2 on the Nomad.

ALL false

 

[sketch]

It just seemed instead of getting a straight answer the thread went towards "why don't you emulate" starting with the first response. I don't post on a lot of boards in general because it can be hard to get a straight answer and it seemed the case in this thread. Just my opinion.

 

[famicommander]

We only respondeD cuz the TS was saying things that
ALL false

No... My Nomad gets comparable battery life to my PSP Slim on six rechargeable 2500 mah NiMH batteries. The original battery life rating for the Nomad was based on six 2000 mah alkalines.

Custom firmware may not be illegal, but emulation is. Period. Whether you own the original game or not, you're making an illegal copy of an illegally ripped piece of software and playing it illegally. Using the custom firmware also voids your warranty.

And the Nomad control vs the PSP control is a matter of opinion. I happen to think that the Nomad has a much better d-pad, I think the button layout works better on the Nomad, and I think it sucks using shoulder buttons in the place of face buttons.

I've got a modified Lynx battery pack now, and it works perfectly for both my Game Gear and my Nomad. It powers my Game Gear and Nomad for at least 15 hours each on six rechargeable D batteries. I didn't bother to run a test, but I've only had to recharge my batteries once after over a week of use. It may well even be more than 15 hours.

So excuse me for prefering to play games legally, on the systems they were designed for with better battery life and controls and no risk of voiding my warranty.

 

[mungrin]

Custom firmware may not be illegal, but emulation is. Period. Whether you own the original game or not, you're making an illegal copy of an illegally ripped piece of software and playing it illegally. Using the custom firmware also voids your warranty.

Again False. I aint complaing about owning actual games.Rockin a Nomad is cool too.I owned one.I prefer my PSP but thats my opinion.

But stop makin up shit bout emulation being illegal.If i buy a game,i can do whatever i want with it as long as i dont make money from it.I can rip it,dump it whatever.

 

[sketch]

Again False. I aint complaing about owning actual games.Rockin a Nomad is cool too.I owned one.I prefer my PSP but thats my opinion.

But stop makin up shit bout emulation being illegal.If i buy a game,i can do whatever i want with it as long as i dont make money from it.I can rip it,dump it whatever.

My understanding is that if you own the game you are emulating, that is legal. However, the real rub is that most people who emulate do not own all the game they have and use (in fact, I'd wager most people emulating own a minority of the games they are running, especially for MAME). It's too much tempation to be able to download hundreds or thousands of games, and the reality is that most of us can't afford to buy said games. I could be wrong, though. Anyone know of an actual legal precedent for this (out of curiosity)?

As for d-pads, I thought the Nomad dpad was superior to the PSP, and the Lynx dpad is even better than that (IMHO). Sony's idea of separating the dpad into distinct "buttons" has bothered me ever since they started doing it on the Playstation. It's probably my only complaint about the PSP...

 

[famicommander]

Again False. I aint complaing about owning actual games.Rockin a Nomad is cool too.I owned one.I prefer my PSP but thats my opinion.

But stop makin up shit bout emulation being illegal.If i buy a game,i can do whatever i want with it as long as i dont make money from it.I can rip it,dump it whatever.

Incorrect.

There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a ROM from the Internet.
http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp

"Now, if this is how we interpret the law, then practically every use of a videogame system emulator is illegal. Even a user who dumps the contents of a videogame cartridge for an Atari 2600 game he owns to a ROM file cannot use that ROM file with an emulator unless the original's loss requires resorting to the archival copy. If true, then even my attempt to stay legal by buying games and only then using an emulator to play them is way out of bounds."
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/27/165213

You're wrong. Also, learn to fucking put spaces after your punctuation.

 

[mungrin]

You're wrong. Also, learn to fucking put spaces after your punctuation.

Calm down im sure you will get your PSP back or you can buy a new one.Dont settle for that old Lynx.

 

[famicommander]

Calm down im sure you will get your PSP back or you can buy a new one.Dont settle for that old Lynx.

That was incredibly weak. First of all, I don't even have a Lynx. I guess if you weren't retarded, you'd know that someone with a Lynx wouldn't have had to ask the question posed in the original post in the first place.

I asked if a Lynx battery pack would work with a Game Gear or Nomad. If I actually owned a Lynx, don't you think I'd have figured out that the port for a power adapter was different than the one on my Nomad?

Second, I still have my PSP. The difference is, I use mine to play legitimate games like Crush, God of War: Chains of Olympus, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII, Loco Roco, Lumines, Patapon, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories, Power Stone Collection, and Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max.

I prefer the usage of my official hardware for a variety of reasons. With my newly modified Lynx battery pack, I easily get twice the battery life on my Nomad that I get with my PSP Slim. The directional pad on my Nomad is far superior, and my Genesis games were designed with the layout of the Genesis controller (in this case, Nomad face buttons) in mind.

Above all else, I am a collector. I didn't think that concept would be a totally foreign one on a site dedicated to an obscure, fourth-generation arcade system. As a collector the concept of piracy sickens me, and from a moral standpoint I do not think that anyone is entitled to something they are not willing to pay for.

You totally dodged the bulk of my post and pointed out a single reference to your obviously limited grasp on the written word. You were wrong, plain and simple. Unauthorized emulation (read: not from a legitmate source such as Virtual Console, XBLA, or GameTap) is illegal no matter the situation.

In summary, you're a douche nozzle.