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toy_brain said:
Hey thanks for the link man. Time to upgrade from my VHS print.
Muchos Gracias.
MERCENARY X99
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Well, going through CPM's 2005 Buyer's Guide, there is NO mention of Votoms, at all. Doesn't mean it's not coming, because there isn't much, if anything, new in their release schedule. They do have new volumes of shows already running, like Patlabor (up to vol. 11, which STILL doesn't finish the fucking series!Mercenary X99 said:
), but nothing much that hasn't already been released.If they are doing it, they may be waiting to pick up the video from the Japanese memorial release. Since it's the first time the series is being released on Japanese DVD, the JPN licensers may have asked CPM not to release their stuff this year to help their stuff sell. I'm not sure.
Definitely no news on the OVAs. Not that that should surprise you any.
EDIT- oh and Merc, you may not want to buy from DVD Pacific. I know toy_brain uses them, but that's where he gets the best prices for his R1 DVDs (his in the UK). I had my credit card number stolen through them, got a replacement card and had it happen again. I never recommend them to ANYONE. I'd use someone like Digital Eyes. And with DE if you can find something else you want that brings your order up to $25, you get free shipping. DVD Pacific doesn't do free shipping.
And don't forget the totally UNCUT version of Kite. The Japanese version had some censored sex. The original US version had uncensored sex but some scenes cut. Then the "Director's Cut" had MOST of the scenes reinstated (what was cut were some questionable scenes of sex involving what is clearly a minor. This was released around the time Congress was threatening purveyors of CG/drawn child porn, which is why you always see disclaimers on adult titles saying that everyone is 18, even though they are clearly in high school and shit like that!). The UNCUT version was released last year and is 100% uncut. No censored sex and ALL the scenes reinstated. The most recent R2 version, the "International Version," is just the Director's Cut, so the Japanese still don't have a fully uncensored Kite available.
You can, however, buy from wherever you want.
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Well, today I got Volume 4 of Stand Alone Complex, and I like it. It truly is like fine wine: it gets better with age. "Not Equal" and "Ye$" are pretty good mindfucks, "Machines Desirantes" is another wierd tachikoma episode, and "AG2Q" reminded me a little of Fight Club. Oh, and the cover art = 
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I started rewatching World of Narue the other day. This will be my 3rd time through.
The animation quality isn't all that great. The encode to DVD is passable, but typical CPM middle of the road quality.
The story goes that there is this girl (Narue) who is an alien (she's basically human). She saves this boy (Kazuto) from being killed by a bad alien. Kazuto falls for her, and the rest is history. The show revolves around their relationship and the relationships they have with several other characters. From the federation people trying to get Narue and her father to leave Earth (her father is 100% alien, Narue is a 1/2 breed as her mother is an Earthling), to Yagi the space loving Otaku, to Narue's big-little sister to Kazuto's friend Maruo, there are plenty of people for them to interact with.
The show is lighthearted and fun. Not too shallow, but not too deep either. It's not amazingly great, but it has somehow managed to get me to rewatch it more than I have most other series. I mean, I would like to eventually go through all of my stuff again, and likely will, but it's rare for a title to be watched this frequently when I still have other new stuff to watch.
ferrarimanf355- sent an email over to Bandai, turns out my shit will be shipping back to me this week, so I may be able to watch GitS: SAC starting again next week.
The animation quality isn't all that great. The encode to DVD is passable, but typical CPM middle of the road quality.
The story goes that there is this girl (Narue) who is an alien (she's basically human). She saves this boy (Kazuto) from being killed by a bad alien. Kazuto falls for her, and the rest is history. The show revolves around their relationship and the relationships they have with several other characters. From the federation people trying to get Narue and her father to leave Earth (her father is 100% alien, Narue is a 1/2 breed as her mother is an Earthling), to Yagi the space loving Otaku, to Narue's big-little sister to Kazuto's friend Maruo, there are plenty of people for them to interact with.
The show is lighthearted and fun. Not too shallow, but not too deep either. It's not amazingly great, but it has somehow managed to get me to rewatch it more than I have most other series. I mean, I would like to eventually go through all of my stuff again, and likely will, but it's rare for a title to be watched this frequently when I still have other new stuff to watch.
ferrarimanf355- sent an email over to Bandai, turns out my shit will be shipping back to me this week, so I may be able to watch GitS: SAC starting again next week.
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Fuck you. Fuck you in Michael Moore's got ass! Now you made me want to buy World of Narue 
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slerch, nice to hear about that.
Anyways, the anime club I joined in my college showed a fansubbed episode of Samurai Champloo yesterday. It was a recently-aired episode in Japan (that's what they told me... ) that involved graffiti taggers and one of the main characters learning how to read. If the whole series is as good as this episode, I'm sold. The enviroment, the music, the animation, the comedy, the action, it all screams quailty. I now understand why people think so highly of Champloo. I quipped afterwards that if Mark Ecko and Quentin Tarantino teamed up to do an anime, it would look like this. It also helped that Champloo reminded me of this here thread I made a while back... I'm sold, I'm buying the DVD's ASAP.
Oh, and what's a "champloo", anyways?
Anyways, the anime club I joined in my college showed a fansubbed episode of Samurai Champloo yesterday. It was a recently-aired episode in Japan (that's what they told me...
) that involved graffiti taggers and one of the main characters learning how to read. If the whole series is as good as this episode, I'm sold. The enviroment, the music, the animation, the comedy, the action, it all screams quailty. I now understand why people think so highly of Champloo. I quipped afterwards that if Mark Ecko and Quentin Tarantino teamed up to do an anime, it would look like this. It also helped that Champloo reminded me of this here thread I made a while back... I'm sold, I'm buying the DVD's ASAP. Oh, and what's a "champloo", anyways?
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Yesterday, I watched the first movie of Inuyasha, and it was better than I thought. I never really been crazy about Inuyasha because the series drags on and it gets repetitve, but, I thought the movie was quite good, suprisingly. The animation was an issue tho, because some of the characters didn't look like their TV series counterparts. Especially Miroku, he looked like he had a receeding hairline, other than that, I was pleasantly suprised.
Also, I've been watching Peace Maker Kurogane, and I'm up to episode 9 and I wonder when it is going to pick up. Some episodes are just filler episodes, and not increasing the plot one bit. I sure hope that the series picks up soon.
Also, I've been watching Peace Maker Kurogane, and I'm up to episode 9 and I wonder when it is going to pick up. Some episodes are just filler episodes, and not increasing the plot one bit. I sure hope that the series picks up soon.
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That was the last episode.ferrarimanf355 said:slerch, nice to hear about that.
Anyways, the anime club I joined in my college showed a fansubbed episode of Samurai Champloo yesterday. It was a recently-aired episode in Japan (that's what they told me...
I already explained this in a thread a while ago. Google is your friend.Oh, and what's a "champloo", anyways?
(it's actually chanpuru)
Earlier on I said I'd post some thoughts on Gad Guard once I'd watched enough of it, well, regardless of wether anyone cares or not, I've taken in the first 10 episodes, and here are my thoughts.......
Its good, very good.... or should that be supprisingly good, seeings as the first disk was a bit of an impulse buy.
The initial premise - that of young 'hip-n-trendy' kids running around with highly-marketable-looking giant robots - kinda made me cringe, and for the first half of the first episode thats what I was doing (cringing) as I watched the main hero and his buddies racing arround town, skating between cars and generally trying to look 'hip' and 'rad'.
Bleugh!
But soon enough things got interesting. The main character stopped acting like a prick, and a couple more interesting characters made an appearance, and of course, the Gad's (the big robot-thingys) started showing up and doing battle with other big robot-thingys (referred to as Heavy-Metals).
What really makes Gad Guard shine is its sense of style and pacing. Not only is the animation during the fight-scenes very slick, its also cut very well to give the scenes that extra 'punch'. The same is true for the rest of the show, with a variety of interesting camera-angles and cuts being used during scenes of tension or danger. It gives the show a feeling of rapid pacing that I've rarely seen in anime.
The story? Meh, its standard anime stuff I guess. Teenagers find giant robots and use them to battle evil, while also trying to uncover the origins and true motives of the robots. Its a plot I've seen before many times, but -as ever in anime- its given a decent enough spin and packaged in a different setting (think 1940's America only with more advanced technology) to make things seem fairly fresh.
So yea, its pretty damn good. It looks great (typical great animation from Gonzo), has a nice cast of predictable-yet-likable characters, a fairly unique setting, and great pacing.
Dont let the fact that the primary cast are all 16-year-olds put you off.
And next up is S-Cry-ed, which I wasnt going to bother with at first, but now that its out in a lovely box-set I figured that it would serve as ample backlog.
Its.......ummm.....errrr.......welll.....Its ok I guess.
Well, I've only seen the first 5 episodes so far, so mabye I'm judging it a bit early, but I'm really not 'sold' on this series (Well, technically speaking I am sold on it - I bought it after all - what I mean is, I havent really been able to 'click' with the sharacters and settings).
OK, so what are the basics of the show? Well, it centres around the idea of certain humans possesing the ability to summon an 'Alter'. Which is basically a special ability, it could be anything. For the main hero his 'Alter' is for his right arm to turn into a power-arm, other characters can summon huge guns, others summon beings that fight for them (Like 'Stands' in Jojo's Bizzare Adventure).
What makes things slightly interesting is that these 'Alters' are formed out of neerby substances (the ground, or buildings, or vehicles), so whenever someone wants to fight using one, they have to sacrifice part of their surroundings to summon it. This means they have to be carefull if summoning one in, say, a hospital.
The basic setting for all of this is a chunk of japan that has been cut off from the mainland due to some disaster, and is now mostly a no-go area for anyone that can afford to not live there. So its all half-ruined buildings and wateland mostly.
However, there is a small well-maintained walled-off city that still has law and order, and the organisation that runs it is looking to expand into the wasteland.
And thats where the inevitable conflict arises from, between our generic-anime-hero (who is a waselander) and the organisation called 'Holy' that is attempting to expand into the wastelands and also capture any rogue 'Alters' due to the danger they pose.
Holy isnt an intrinsically evil organisation, but contains a number of rotten eggs that enjoy repressing the wastelanders, and others that simply seem misguided. So you have a conflict where both sides are likeable to a degree, and there is no clear-cut sense of 'one side is good and the other is evil' which always makes things a tad more interesting.
But the show just seems very average somehow.
The character designs are average, the animation is mostly average (with spots of CGI used for special effects), and the pacing and setting seem somehow very average.
And the idea of people with special powers doing battle with each other....geez, how many times have I seen that done before?
S-Cry-ed's problem isnt that it's unoriginal at its core (most anime is like that), but that it fails to put enough of a spin on a well-worn genre to make it truly stand out.
The moment I saw the first 'Alter' being summoned I just thought to myself 'Ho hum, its one of these shows is it', and so far, I havent been supprised by anything that has happened.
Its not bad per se, its just totally flat-out average.
Mabye it'll get better in subsequent disks............
Its good, very good.... or should that be supprisingly good, seeings as the first disk was a bit of an impulse buy.
The initial premise - that of young 'hip-n-trendy' kids running around with highly-marketable-looking giant robots - kinda made me cringe, and for the first half of the first episode thats what I was doing (cringing) as I watched the main hero and his buddies racing arround town, skating between cars and generally trying to look 'hip' and 'rad'.
Bleugh!
But soon enough things got interesting. The main character stopped acting like a prick, and a couple more interesting characters made an appearance, and of course, the Gad's (the big robot-thingys) started showing up and doing battle with other big robot-thingys (referred to as Heavy-Metals).
What really makes Gad Guard shine is its sense of style and pacing. Not only is the animation during the fight-scenes very slick, its also cut very well to give the scenes that extra 'punch'. The same is true for the rest of the show, with a variety of interesting camera-angles and cuts being used during scenes of tension or danger. It gives the show a feeling of rapid pacing that I've rarely seen in anime.
The story? Meh, its standard anime stuff I guess. Teenagers find giant robots and use them to battle evil, while also trying to uncover the origins and true motives of the robots. Its a plot I've seen before many times, but -as ever in anime- its given a decent enough spin and packaged in a different setting (think 1940's America only with more advanced technology) to make things seem fairly fresh.
So yea, its pretty damn good. It looks great (typical great animation from Gonzo), has a nice cast of predictable-yet-likable characters, a fairly unique setting, and great pacing.
Dont let the fact that the primary cast are all 16-year-olds put you off.
And next up is S-Cry-ed, which I wasnt going to bother with at first, but now that its out in a lovely box-set I figured that it would serve as ample backlog.
Its.......ummm.....errrr.......welll.....Its ok I guess.
Well, I've only seen the first 5 episodes so far, so mabye I'm judging it a bit early, but I'm really not 'sold' on this series (Well, technically speaking I am sold on it - I bought it after all - what I mean is, I havent really been able to 'click' with the sharacters and settings).
OK, so what are the basics of the show? Well, it centres around the idea of certain humans possesing the ability to summon an 'Alter'. Which is basically a special ability, it could be anything. For the main hero his 'Alter' is for his right arm to turn into a power-arm, other characters can summon huge guns, others summon beings that fight for them (Like 'Stands' in Jojo's Bizzare Adventure).
What makes things slightly interesting is that these 'Alters' are formed out of neerby substances (the ground, or buildings, or vehicles), so whenever someone wants to fight using one, they have to sacrifice part of their surroundings to summon it. This means they have to be carefull if summoning one in, say, a hospital.
The basic setting for all of this is a chunk of japan that has been cut off from the mainland due to some disaster, and is now mostly a no-go area for anyone that can afford to not live there. So its all half-ruined buildings and wateland mostly.
However, there is a small well-maintained walled-off city that still has law and order, and the organisation that runs it is looking to expand into the wasteland.
And thats where the inevitable conflict arises from, between our generic-anime-hero (who is a waselander) and the organisation called 'Holy' that is attempting to expand into the wastelands and also capture any rogue 'Alters' due to the danger they pose.
Holy isnt an intrinsically evil organisation, but contains a number of rotten eggs that enjoy repressing the wastelanders, and others that simply seem misguided. So you have a conflict where both sides are likeable to a degree, and there is no clear-cut sense of 'one side is good and the other is evil' which always makes things a tad more interesting.
But the show just seems very average somehow.
The character designs are average, the animation is mostly average (with spots of CGI used for special effects), and the pacing and setting seem somehow very average.
And the idea of people with special powers doing battle with each other....geez, how many times have I seen that done before?
S-Cry-ed's problem isnt that it's unoriginal at its core (most anime is like that), but that it fails to put enough of a spin on a well-worn genre to make it truly stand out.
The moment I saw the first 'Alter' being summoned I just thought to myself 'Ho hum, its one of these shows is it', and so far, I havent been supprised by anything that has happened.
Its not bad per se, its just totally flat-out average.
Mabye it'll get better in subsequent disks............
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ferrarimanf355
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I actually found that out on the Anime News Network site after posting that. Thanks, though.Now Loading said:
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Re: Scryed
The problem is Hirai Hisashi. It's ok, he exists to be blamed.
The problem is Hirai Hisashi. It's ok, he exists to be blamed.
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Well, I watched Wedding Peach volume 9 today. This disc wraps up the TV series and I must say, it ends almost exactly as expected (not a bad thing). There wasn't a whole lot in the series that I could say was a surprise story-wise, but fuck if I didn't enjoy every minute of it! Magical Girl show done perfectly! I can't tell whether this is a really good Magical Girl show, or if it was because I have had a withdrawl from the MG genre. I tend to go with the former, as I also fairly recently watched all of the Cutey Honey Flash TV series and enjoyed that as well.
I also watched the Cutie Honey live action movie, and putting it with Re:, the action and all that shit of the live one matched the Anime (well, as closely as I had expected anyway). It was super campy, but a fun movie to watch. I went in expecting crap, but came out with a decent movie. Probably not worth the price I paid for it, but fun none-the-less.
I also watched the Shin Saiyuki Sakura Taisen live musical. I'll spare everyone the details (I did PM Now Loading about it though).
Guess I need to go watch some Anime instead of live stuff...
I also watched the Cutie Honey live action movie, and putting it with Re:, the action and all that shit of the live one matched the Anime (well, as closely as I had expected anyway). It was super campy, but a fun movie to watch. I went in expecting crap, but came out with a decent movie. Probably not worth the price I paid for it, but fun none-the-less.
I also watched the Shin Saiyuki Sakura Taisen live musical. I'll spare everyone the details (I did PM Now Loading about it though).
Guess I need to go watch some Anime instead of live stuff...
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Now Loading said:
I'm assuming that is the character designer? He deserves to be blamed. If all his fucking characters, in every one of the series he's done chara designs for didn't look exactly the same as the last set, maybe the series' he's had his hand in would be better?
S-Cry-Ed, Infinite Ryvius, Fafner and Mobile Suit Gundam SEED. Do a google search for each series and find some character pics. Now compare them all side by side. Every fucking one of them look the same as the last set, with different clothes and different hair or hair colors.
One thing people always tell me is that Japanese characters are all the same. In his case, this is true. I honestly don't see the "sameness" in all the series I've watched. There are similiarities, especially when there is a series like Mazinger/Great Mazinger that are intertwined.
But whatever. S-Cry-Ed is a typical action show. Not sure if tb's tastes swing that way or not. It's a decent show, and fun to watch, but nothing spectacular.
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Yep that'd be him. Fafner was my Shingetsutan Tsukihime of 2004. 
I am such a Xebec fan (lol) that I keep watching their bile year after year, but they need to get with it.
I am such a Xebec fan (lol) that I keep watching their bile year after year, but they need to get with it.
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I want to see G-taste 1&2 on DVD. 
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Anything in particular that you enjoyed about them? I mean, Berserk doesn't really have anything "similar" in sense.racecar said:
thanks
If you like the vampire thing (Hellsing), you can try out Blood: The Last Vampire. It's really short, but it's really well animated. The story is OK, and it's a decent release, just don't go in expecting a master piece.
If you are looking for the horror/suspense thing, you can try out Betterman and Soul Taker. Both are rather interesting stories and are well done.
You can also try Gantz, which just began it's run in the US. However, most people don't like the episode per disc count nor do they like the amount of discs in the series. There is only one disc out, so it doesn't match your criteria for being complete.
Another horror show, completely released is The Devil Lady. Most people I recommend it to are leary about buying it, but once I show them the first disc they are fully addicted. It's a great show that not many people took a chance on. You can get the complete series fairly cheap on-line (MSRP os $50). Highly recommend that one.
As for Berserk, are you looking for the violence aspect of the show? The medieval aspect? It may not fit well with either, but Gungrave is full of action and a bad ass story. Of course, it's not all released yet either...
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i like the animation and the storyline in the 2 series...(berserk was kind of short)
i will watch any anime with violent's/comedy... and some decent animation
so bring the good suggestion's..
i owned these dvd's(so i don't need these)
hellsing
cityhunter season1-4/movies
gto
lupin..movie's
ranma1/2 complete(3 season's??)
and some other anime movie's
i will watch any anime with violent's/comedy... and some decent animation
so bring the good suggestion's..
i owned these dvd's(so i don't need these)
hellsing
cityhunter season1-4/movies
gto
lupin..movie's
ranma1/2 complete(3 season's??)
and some other anime movie's
I'm up to episode 10 in S-Cry-ed and I'm starting to settle into the show more.
Its really not too bad, and each episode goes by fairly quickly.
Also, it hasn't fallen into an obvious opponent-of-the-week fomula, instead going for a more consitant overall series of story-arcs, so its keeping my interest going.
Its still pretty average, but enjoyably so.
Its really not too bad, and each episode goes by fairly quickly.
Also, it hasn't fallen into an obvious opponent-of-the-week fomula, instead going for a more consitant overall series of story-arcs, so its keeping my interest going.
Its still pretty average, but enjoyably so.
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I watched Re: Cutie Honey vol. 3. Man, when this gets licensed and released in the US (I can't imagine it NOT being picked up by someone), I highly recommend everyone pick it up! It's such a fun show to watch. There's a decent story to it, great characters and fan service (tits) for those that want them. Gainax did an outstanding job with the property. I wish they had actually made more than 3-45 minute episodes... how about an entire 26 episode series at the same quality level?
I also watched Koutetsu Jeeg vol. 2. 10 more episodes of super robot goodness. Since this is one of those formulaic 70s super robot shows, I can't imagine anyone ever picking this one up for R1 release. It's a good series though. I think the animation would kill any of the 70s stuff, as "fans" today only want the digital painted stuff. Fuck nuggets.
I also watched Gundam: SEED vol. 4. toy_brain... I'm watching the same characters you are in S-Cry-Ed! OK, I'll stop harping on that. Anyway, this series is OK. It's not great, and I'm not sure why so many people love it. The characters are kinda annoying. The story is basically the original Gundam. The animation quality is kinda low IMO. The Gundam designs are crap. It's just an OK series.
I also watched Koutetsu Jeeg vol. 2. 10 more episodes of super robot goodness. Since this is one of those formulaic 70s super robot shows, I can't imagine anyone ever picking this one up for R1 release. It's a good series though. I think the animation would kill any of the 70s stuff, as "fans" today only want the digital painted stuff. Fuck nuggets.
I also watched Gundam: SEED vol. 4. toy_brain... I'm watching the same characters you are in S-Cry-Ed! OK, I'll stop harping on that. Anyway, this series is OK. It's not great, and I'm not sure why so many people love it. The characters are kinda annoying. The story is basically the original Gundam. The animation quality is kinda low IMO. The Gundam designs are crap. It's just an OK series.
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No, try 7 seasons.racecar said:
I figured out what I don't like about Gundam SEED. They focus too much on characters and too little on battles. Sure, there's a lot of fighting, but damn, when it's all said and done this is a drama with some giant robots blowing shit up. Add on the fact that, in all honesty, it's not even that great of a drama, and you have a show that could have been great that is barely OK. I want to finish the series, I want to see how it ends, but only because I've started it. If I were watching on TV and they took it off the air, I doubt I'd care enough to find other means to view it. I seriously don't know how this is so popular in Japan. It's like a giant commercial. There are easily 50 different types of Gundams in the show. Easily 15 different giant ships. Ass loads of upgrades for these things. Every couple episodes the main theme and end theme change. So it's buy all our models/toys/accessories, and while you're at it, buy all the Gundam SEED CDs and all the artist's CDs as well! It's a huge marketing ploy from start to end, and the Japanese people bought into it. Sad that something so lackluster caught on while other shit is ignored.
Oh, I got Fullmetal Alchemist 1 w/box today. Haven't watched it yet. Also have Stellvia 3, Saiyuki Reload 1 and Human Crossing 1.
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Just finished watching some recent stuff....
Samurai Champloo disc 1... very nice! The creation of a character who is essentially a capoeirista samurai gives this series all sorts of creative, off-the-wall possibilities for fight scenes. It seems to be making the most of it so far.
Stellvia disc 3... extremely good, better than the second disc. The story arc in the last 2 episodes is awesome at times. In fact, the only thing that worries me is whether it's too awesome... the main plot of the series is advanced so far that I wonder what is left for the rest of the discs.
Peacemaker disc 3... decent. The plot picks up at times, but overall it is still building.
Samurai Champloo disc 1... very nice! The creation of a character who is essentially a capoeirista samurai gives this series all sorts of creative, off-the-wall possibilities for fight scenes. It seems to be making the most of it so far.
Stellvia disc 3... extremely good, better than the second disc. The story arc in the last 2 episodes is awesome at times. In fact, the only thing that worries me is whether it's too awesome... the main plot of the series is advanced so far that I wonder what is left for the rest of the discs.
Peacemaker disc 3... decent. The plot picks up at times, but overall it is still building.
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slerch666 said:
#1> First off, thanks for the links above about Mezzo Forte and KITE Director's Cut.
#2> Commenting on your above post ^ about GUNDAM SEED. *How is this different from a good deal of the GUNDAM shows, or even other Japanimation shows for that matter? This is one of the main reasons {and you knew I can't resist the urge to pimp the show} that AT: VOTOMS and it's OVA prequels, sequels and spin offs freaking rule. As you know that show is VERY character orientated, but there's still pleanty of mass destruction going on, and the mecha aren't gimmicky. You'd have to be a masochist to truly love the endless Scopedog variations in all honesty since they're ugly as sin... but this last reason along with the fact the animation is old {at least the TV series} is what keeps the show from ever being a "Mainstream Series". ---But you are right in that GUNDAM SEED does kind of feel like a 90210 in the Gundam Universe, you didn't say that actually but it was implied.
I think it's sad that there is indeed so much more out there to be had, but yet ppl just fall prey to all of the gimmicky marketing in these shows. But BANDAI was always a big model/toy company, this doesn't surprise me in the slightest that they would have a "Gundam of the week" type thing going on. Though I will say I like SEED much better than WING, just for the fact it isn't screwing {at least IMO} with the original story as much, I mean it is, but not to the point that WING did. And the only reason WING was such a hit in the states was because it was even more gimmicky than the source material {the original 0079 series} was, but the pilots all looked like faggots. Best thing about WING was the Hentai that came out of it all with the bitches. Looking back at it, I suppose if the GUNDAM series would have had the seriously dark overtones of the novelizations Tomino did, then the franchise would have died somewhere around Char's Counterattack and gone the route of VOTOMS, where only the "Cult" followers revere it. In order to stay a float, you gotta' give some candy. I'm not saying I agree with it, it just seems to be the order of the day. To me ZETA GUNDAM is as dark as we'll ever see again.
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