A semi-serious discussion on transgender issues

[fake]

I didn’t think that at all.

I do agree with you, I think that with some honesty on their part, the story of many people who have gender dysphoria would involve sexual abuse.

Pedos, too. A lot of them were themselves victims of pedos.

 

[NeoSneth]

I agree that 99% of it is simply treating them as a person. There really isn't nuance in most day to day interactions. Work, life, or otherwise....

Sports is often mentioned because some gender and trans rights group push that there is no biological differences between the sexes. None whatsoever. It's pathetic and moronic that we even have to entertain and pretend that is true. This is something any child knows is not true.

Speaking of children, I'm surprised the bathroom discussion hasn't come up. Again, probably something that is not an issue 99% of the time, but there is already legislation without healthy discourse. What would once get you one the registered sex offender list is now forced legislation. I understand conservatives that wanted to take more time on this topic.

 

[norton9478]

Bathrooms should not be segregated by sex or gender.

 

[smokehouse]

Bathrooms should not be segregated by sex or gender.

I agree 100%....although it would suck for guys if that happened. Quick piss-trips FTW...

 

[Stefan]

There are many different types of racism, there are many different levels of white supremacy. I may consider myself to be be complicit to some degree in purveying those paradigms.

 

[fake]

Bathrooms should not be segregated by sex or gender.

Bathrooms should be segregated by emission: one bathroom for pee, one for poop.

 

[NeoSneth]

I agree 100%....although it would suck for guys if that happened. Quick piss-trips FTW...

I have no problem using a urinal with women there. It's no different than men.
the US could certainly use an update to its dividers tho.

 

[norton9478]

Dude, sober 20 year olds won't even use the urinal next to someone even if there is a divider.

 

[evil wasabi]

Bathrooms should not be segregated by sex or gender.

I agree. They should be segregated by human. One person, one bathroom. Two people go in? Lockdown, gas, destroy, sterilize. No more fucking around in bathrooms. You do your business, or you die.

 

[jro]

Bathrooms should be segregated by emission: one bathroom for pee, one for poop.

"Animal Shithouse."

Or Mac's preferred option, just a collage of dick pics.

 

[Tw3ek]

I didn’t think that at all.

I do agree with you, I think that with some honesty on their part, the story of many people who have gender dysphoria would involve sexual abuse.

It's really too bad we can't have an open discussion about mental health in general though, much less on any topic that requires a deeper dive.

 

[StevenK]

It's really too bad we can't have an open discussion about mental health in general though, much less on any topic that requires a deeper dive.

Do you mean here, or as a society?

 

[Tw3ek]

Do you mean here, or as a society?

As a society.

 

[NeoSneth]

The problem with mental health is its morphing into intersectionality and victim culture.
My mental issues are more important than yours because I'm part of these 4 groups and you are only a white male veteran.
Plus, we're also in this age where everyone wants to be medicated and everyone needs an excuse for their shortcomings....

 

[evil wasabi]

I don’t understand how we got to mental health from segregating poop palaces from wiz palaces.

 

[LoneSage]

The problem with mental health is its morphing into intersectionality and victim culture.
My mental issues are more important than yours because I'm part of these 4 groups and you are only a white male veteran.
Plus, we're also in this age where everyone wants to be medicated and everyone needs an excuse for their shortcomings....

Wow, yeah. I had the same thought (I don't know what intersectionality means though).

I think everyone agrees mental health is important. But I get the feeling that a lot of people who say things like 'I need a mental health day away from work' ease themselves into this mindset to make themselves comfortable instead of actively trying to improve themselves. And I think a lot of people lack the introspection to ask themselves, "What is wrong with me? Why do I feel this way? How can I be better? How does my behavior affect the ones I love?"

Seriously, it sounds crazy literally talking to yourself and asking yourself questions but it can help out.

But the number one thing imo, above all others, for mental health is financial security. If a person is living paycheck-to-paycheck, if they have to check their bank account to make sure they have enough money to pay the bills, then they probably are not going to feel mentally well and will probably be depressed. A min wage that people can actually live off of would do wonders for the well-being of a country's people.

I'm no expert, these are just my own opinions.

 

[Burning Fight!!]

A min wage that people can actually live off of would do wonders for the well-being of a country's people.

This so fucking much.

 

[evil wasabi]

This so fucking much.

Really? You don’t think that it wouldn’t just be another upward siphoning of wealth, as the economic group with the least yolos for glory, and the 1 in 306,000,000human that wins that fucked up lottery is showcased as a shining example of what any American can achieve, if they just let it all ride, pants down, dick out.

 

[LoneSage]

Really? You don’t think that it wouldn’t just be another upward siphoning of wealth, as the economic group with the least yolos for glory, and the 1 in 306,000,000human that wins that fucked up lottery is showcased as a shining example of what any American can achieve, if they just let it all ride, pants down, dick out.

I don't know man. I don't have the answers. I guess it's possible if there was a liveable min wage maybe rents and mortgages and other costs of living would skyrocket too, and in the end it would be pointless. I don't have answers but it would be nice for people to have financial security. It is honestly one of the biggest reasons I am afraid to go back home. It sounds like so many people are struggling just to live.

 

[lithy]

I don't know man. I don't have the answers. I guess it's possible if there was a liveable min wage maybe rents and mortgages and other costs of living would skyrocket too, and in the end it would be pointless. I don't have answers but it would be nice for people to have financial security. It is honestly one of the biggest reasons I am afraid to go back home. It sounds like so many people are struggling just to live.

Only those in California, but they're leaving.

 

[evil wasabi]

I don't know man. I don't have the answers. I guess it's possible if there was a liveable min wage maybe rents and mortgages and other costs of living would skyrocket too, and in the end it would be pointless. I don't have answers but it would be nice for people to have financial security. It is honestly one of the biggest reasons I am afraid to go back home. It sounds like so many people are struggling just to live.

I don’t have real answers but there’s this thing called the iron law of wages. Eventually those improved wages will be the bare minimum for workers to exist.

 

[NeoSneth]

Liveable wage is a viable discussion, but so are people's living expectations.
People making $30k shouldn't be buying $40k trucks, and iphone 12's, and everything else they can't afford.

Also, I'm not sure min wage has ever been a livable wage. It shouldn't be the source of income for a household.

 

[evil wasabi]

Liveable wage is a viable discussion, but so are people's living expectations.
People making $30k shouldn't be buying $40k trucks, and iphone 12's, and everything else they can't afford.

Also, I'm not sure min wage has ever been a livable wage. It shouldn't be the source of income for a household.

Maybe not a sole source.

But if you have 10 min wage jobs that you perform concurrently, and remotely, it could be decent.

 

[SouthtownKid]

I don't know man. I don't have the answers. I guess it's possible if there was a liveable min wage maybe rents and mortgages and other costs of living would skyrocket too, and in the end it would be pointless. I don't have answers but it would be nice for people to have financial security. It is honestly one of the biggest reasons I am afraid to go back home. It sounds like so many people are struggling just to live.

Raising the minimum wage leads to inflation like night follows day. It can't not. So the underclass quickly find themselves right back in the exact same shit position they were before the minimum wage increase. The people who get fucked are the disappearing middle class who have to deal with higher prices of everything with no commensurate wage increase.

 

[norton9478]

Raising the minimum wage leads to inflation like night follows day. It can't not. So the underclass quickly find themselves right back in the exact same shit position they were before the minimum wage increase. The people who get fucked are the disappearing middle class who have to deal with higher prices of everything with no commensurate wage increase.

^This is of course, full of shit.^