A sale gone bad. Any suggestions?

[billd420]

You are NOT getting a full refund...

And if it was my sale, you wouldn't be getting a dime... you are lucky you have that cheesy "static bag" excuse...

The stickers were peeled back... not cut...

Dude how are you going to tell me the stickers were peeled back???? You didn't even see the damn cart! It was in my posetion and Steve's. I pay very very close attention to details, you can't possibly tell me they weren't cut before they got to me because that is a LIE.

Regardless, I've shipped over 15 different CPS3 cartridges in the past 7 months, I always pack well, and ship in anti static bags. NOT ONE HAS BEEN DOA. So this "cheesey excuse" seems to hold weight in my book, and I specificly requested.

 

[TonK]

Okay, I don't want to say someone is fucking someone here. It's a deal that went freakin' south. All I know is the cart was in nice WORKING condition when I sold it. I just wish this all would have worked out perfect, as all my sales have in the past.

Yes, I am talking to Tonk about this deal. He's looking out for me, as I'm sure you have friends doing the same for you.

Point is, I've never had a deal go down like this. Ever.

I honestly don't think you should pay anything back to him...

No static killed that cart...

And I never put "Sold AS-IS" in any of my ads...

If it left my house working, its out of my hands...

Take the negative, and keep your money...

Everyone in this thread is hovering over meaningless "loopholes" that have no significance here...

If the stickers were not cut when you had it, but cut when the cart arrived, then Bill or the postman opened the cart...

This deal seems VERY shady on bill's end...

 

[TonK]

Dude how are you going to tell me the stickers were peeled back???? You didn't even see the damn cart! It was in my posetion and Steve's. I pay very very close attention to details, you can't possibly tell me they weren't cut before they got to me because that is a LIE.

Regardless, I've shipped over 15 different CPS3 cartridges in the past 7 months, I always pack well, and ship in anti static bags. NOT ONE HAS BEEN DOA. So this "cheesey excuse" seems to hold weight in my book, and I specificly requested.

Are you calling Steve a liar?

 

[gmw]

I've had one deal turn out like this - we split the costs 50/50. That seems like the fair thing to do here.

But truthfully and in general, when you're buying used goods, and not specifically asking for insurance, once it's out of the seller's home, it's the buyer's responsibility, no matter what happens to it.

Sad to see stuff like this happen on the boards, especially between two people with lots of deals done.

 

[billd420]

Tonk, what would you do if you bought a used, "tested and working" original Metal Slug 1 for $1200, and it arrived completely DEAD. Would honestly settle for 1/2 of your money back? That is just obsurd!

 

[TonK]

Seems like you enjoy jacking up prices on ebay...

You won't be laughing all the way to the bank on this one...

 

[Gameoz]

I honestly don't think you should pay anything back to him...

No static killed that cart...

And I never put "Sold AS-IS" in any of my ads...

If it left my house working, its out of my hands...

Take the negative, and keep your money...

Everyone in this thread is hovering over meaningless "loopholes" that have no significance here...

If the stickers were not cut when you had it, but cut when the cart arrived, then Bill or the postman opened the cart...

This deal seems VERY shady on bill's end...

I have been following (and posting in) this dispute since it happened. Only two people know the condition of the stickers and that is the seller and buyer, so I don't see how anyone else can comment on that.

I also don't see how the buyer did anything shady here. I don't see this deal ever getting better than a 50/50 split, so that is probably what should happen.

 

[billd420]

Are you calling Steve a liar?

No I'm simply stating the facts. Since you ghost wrote it for steve, I'm calling you a liar.

 

[billd420]

Seems like you enjoy jacking up prices on ebay...

You won't be laughing all the way to the bank on this one...

Ok what does that have to do with the matter at hand? You're not simply taking low blows to try and tarnish my character.

Grow up Tonk.

 

[TonK]

Tonk, what would you do if you bought a used, "tested and working" original Metal Slug 1 for $1200, and it arrived completely DEAD. Would honestly settle for 1/2 of your money back? That is just obsurd!

Are you calling Steve a liar?

Answer the question...

I don't trust you, and your attitude reeks of shadyness....

It tok you 6 minutes to type out this reply?

Are you thinking of what to say next?

I'm too sharp for you, homie... don't try to patronize me with your "CPS3 experience"

 

[billd420]

Are you calling Steve a liar?

Answer the question...

I don't trust you, and your attitude reeks of shadyness....

It tok you 6 minutes to type out this reply?

Are you thinking of what to say next?

I'm too sharp for you, homie... don't try to patronize me with your "CPS3 experience"

Shut up Tonk, you have no place in this thread anymore.

Steve didnt' say anything to me about stickers being peeled back budy, you did. So, yeah I'm calling you a liar.

 

[TonK]

Ok what does that have to do with the matter at hand? You're not simply taking low blows to try and tarnish my character.

Grow up Tonk.

No, I'm not taking low blows...

I'm "assuming"

You seem to have a hidden agenda...

 

[billd420]

No, I'm not taking low blows...

I'm "assuming"

You seem to have a hidden agenda...

You seem to be instigating a matter that has nothing to do with you. What does this nonsence have to do with the fact that I got burned for $450?! Thats not chump change.

 

[TonK]

You seem to be instigating a matter that has nothing to do with you. What does this nonsence have to do with the fact that I got burned for $450?! Thats not chump change.

How did you get "burned"?

Did Steve rip you off?

Believe me, if it was the other way around, I'd be defending you...

But asking for 75%?

Come on man!

 

[Jedah Doma]

Like many others, I don't get involved in these types of conversations, but I just had to throw my two cents in.

Really all it adds up to is that bill didn't pay for insurance, period. Yea it sucks and it's not fair for either party, but assuming insurance should have been included after the fact is not fair to Spike. As far as the static wrap goes, in my experience, it's not anything that great. Sure it does give minimal protection, but when you're talking about shipping packages like that, a whole number of things could have happened that have nothing to do with the anti-static wrap. I honestly don't think it would have made any difference, but hey, that's just what I think. I've shipped off many high ticket items without insurance because the buyer didn't want to have to pay extra, and that's his choice.

I agree that the board should be sent to a third party to get a better idea of what is wrong with the game and if it can be fixed. This sucks either way, but I guess it's a lesson both ways.

 

[TonK]

Like many others, I don't get involved in these types of conversations, but I just had to throw my two cents in.

Really all it adds up to is that bill didn't pay for insurance, period. Yea it sucks and it's not fair for either party, but assuming insurance should have been included after the fact is not fair to Spike. As far as the static wrap goes, in my experience, it's not anything that great. Sure it does give minimal protection, but when you're talking about shipping packages like that, a whole number of things could have happened that have nothing to do with the anti-static wrap. I honestly don't think it would have made any difference, but hey, that's just what I think. I've shipped off many high ticket items without insurance because the buyer didn't want to have to pay extra, and that's his choice.

I agree that the board should be sent to a third party to get a better idea of what is wrong with the game and if it can be fixed. This sucks either way, but I guess it's a lesson both ways.

Bill thinks he is entitled to 75% of the purchase price because of the anti-static error...

I would NEVER do that...

 

[billd420]

Did Steve rip you off?

To be honest i don't know, only Steve really knows for sure.

75% if steve were to keep the cart, 66% if he were to send it back is what I offered. I think that is a completely reasonable offer.

Would you settle for 50% back if you dropped $1200 on a "working" AES Metal Slug 1 and it came DOA?

 

[TonK]

To be honest i don't know, only Steve really knows for sure.

75% if steve were to keep the cart, 66% if he were to send it back is what I offered. I think that is a completely reasonable offer.

Would you settle for 50% back if you dropped $1200 on a "working" AES Metal Slug 1 and it came DOA?

I'd ask for insurance...

Like I have done with all of the Slugs I ever bought...

If I feel that I paid out of my ass for something, you better believe it would be insured...

I would NEVER ask for 75% back though... I'd split it and be done...

Because it was my fault I didn't ask for insurance...

Make sense?

 

[Gameoz]

I am sorry but does anyone think that the post office is really going to pay out $400 plus on a claim when their was no damage to the box? If it was that easy, people would send broken shit to each other all of the time and collect.

Are we saying that if insurance was put on the cart and the post office didn't pay, the seller would then be out 100% of the money?

You guys really just need to do a 50/50 split and move on. You are both losing out on this deal and it is never going to get any better.

 

[TonK]

I am sorry but does anyone think that the post office is really going to pay out $400 plus on a claim when their was no damage to the box? If it was that easy, people would send broken shit to each other all of the time and collect.

Are we saying that if insurance was put on the cart and the post office didn't pay, the seller would then be out 100% of the money?

You guys really just need to do a 50/50 split and move on. You are both losing out on this deal and it is never going to get any better.

Bill wants 75%...

Which is why I got involved...

 

[billd420]

I'd ask for insurance...

Like I have done with all of the Slugs I ever bought...

If I feel that I paid out of my ass for something, you better believe it would be insured...

I would NEVER ask for 75% back though... I'd split it and be done...

Because it was my fault I didn't ask for insurance...

Make sense?

It was already established that if the box is undamaged, an insurance claim will not be granted. Insurance is not a factor in this dispute.

 

[gmw]

It was already established that if the box is undamaged, an insurance claim will not be granted. Insurance is not a factor in this dispute.

It was already established in this thread by an actual employee of the US postal service that it'll still be granted.

Either 50/50, or Spike should just take the negative and refuse to refund. Next time, buy insurance for a high $ item.

 

[billd420]

sigh....... this is going nowhere

 

[Jedah Doma]

Here's the thing bill, you have to understand the risks that are taken when an item is shipped. Even if it was insured, from what I'm hearing, it doesn't look like you would get much help from them either. Add to that the amount of money you're asking for is a bit much. In legality, Spike is entitled to ALL the money if the cart is returned back to him. I mean, if we're going to get legalistic, Spike wins it hands down. Is it fair, hell no, but as far as the law goes, you don't have a leg to stand on. It's nothing personal, it's just life.

I'm also with TonK, that anti-static bag wouldn't have done a thing.

 

[Gameoz]

It was already established in this thread by an actual employee of the US postal service that it'll still be granted.

Either 50/50, or Spike should just take the negative and refuse to refund. Next time, buy insurance for a high $ item.

Phillip is a great guy and I have dealt with him several times. He really only had the one example though.

Like I stated, if it was that easy to get a claim approved on a box with no damage, people would send broken shit to each other to get their money back. These two guys could do it now and I can assure you they would not get the claimed approved without damage to the box.

Also...anyone that has dealt with the post office trying to get money back (overnight delivery that doesn't make it on time) knows how hard and how long it takes to maybe get your money back. (And that is just for $20)