A message from Jim Wright

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Musk and his team of dodgy 18-year-olds went into sensitive government networks, hooked up their own storage systems, and downloaded the personal information of every American.

Various politicians, some even Republican, are in the words of Susan Collins "very concerned." The press is variously surprised, appalled, and aghast. There are rising calls for Musk's removal.

BUT, here's the part they're all missing: Even if we throw Musk out, HE STILL HAS OUR INFORMATION.

He still has our personal information. All of it. All of your private information. Everything the government knows about you. Your identity, your bank accounts, your credit cards, your tax information, the property you own, all of it. Every detail. There's a reason why that information was protected. Musk's companies now have it and whoever they decide to sell it to has it. If one of those unvetted, uncleared, unknown 18-year-olds made a copy, they have it. If any of them are compromised, if Musk's corporate data systems are penetrated by our adversaries, then they have it too. China. Nigeria. Hackers. Thieves. Enemy intelligence agencies. Marketing executives.

There's nothing to stop Musk. He doesn't work for us. He's not accountable to the people or their representatives in any fashion. And he has repeatedly demonstrated that his loyalty to American is tenuous at best. His only allegiance is to profit.

What do you think Trump will do with that information?

This is the greatest Identity Theft in history.

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Addendum: Musk now has all the personal and financial information of his rivals. Bezos. Zuckerberg. Trump even.

Give that some thought.
 

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Even the people who work for us don't work for us.

On the three separate occasions I was a government employee, I worked for you.

Not all employees take their oath to the Constitution the same-I’ll concede that point.

However, USAID is not as Musk said-“a ball of worms.”

The systematic take down of government institutions, to ‘make America great again’ as an end game…is to do away with taxes entirely/go back to tariffs only like way back in the day when the rich owners passed the buck and the government was solely funded by the tariffs consumers paid in lieu of tax revenue.

Fuck all that noise.
 

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On the three separate occasions I was a government employee, I worked for you.

Not all employees take their oath to the Constitution the same-I’ll concede that point.

However, USAID is not as Musk said-“a ball of worms.”

The systematic take down of government institutions, to ‘make America great again’ as an end game…is to do away with taxes entirely/go back to tariffs only like way back in the day when the rich owners passed the buck and the government was solely funded by the tariffs consumers paid in lieu of tax revenue.

Fuck all that noise.

Brother, more than 50% of the voters wanted this and a not insignificant portion of those who thought the leopards wouldn’t eat their face are completely fine with the ad hoc disassembly of the federal government.

Weird how they won’t touch BATFE.
 

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Democrats build an enormous, pervasive administrative state that writes thousands of rules and regulations with the force of law each and every year. Then get pissy when someone they don't like gets hold of the system. Maybe should have thought that through a bit.

Musk is working at the behest of Trump who was elected...so, yeah, don't really care. Maybe we could care that our government has all of this data on every single citizen to begin with but see my first point again. That ship has sailed.

Who is Jim Wright?
 

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Democrats build an enormous, pervasive administrative state that writes thousands of rules and regulations with the force of law each and every year. Then get pissy when someone they don't like gets hold of the system. Maybe should have thought that through a bit.

Musk is working at the behest of Trump who was elected...so, yeah, don't really care. Maybe we could care that our government has all of this data on every single citizen to begin with but see my first point again. That ship has sailed.

Who is Jim Wright?
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lithy is all in.
 

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Democrats build an enormous, pervasive administrative state that writes thousands of rules and regulations with the force of law each and every year. Then get pissy when someone they don't like gets hold of the system. Maybe should have thought that through a bit.

Musk is working at the behest of Trump who was elected...so, yeah, don't really care. Maybe we could care that our government has all of this data on every single citizen to begin with but see my first point again. That ship has sailed.

Who is Jim Wright?

Why can’t it be both?

I don’t think any dismantling of the federal government by the Trump administration is done in good faith.

That is to say it’s not being done based upon an ethos or philosophy of small government/opposition to the bureaucratic nightmare-state.

This appears to all be theater. Trump is, and has shown in his previous administration, that he’s exactly the same as every other President: a statist who is loathe to let go of power once taken.
 

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lithy is all in.

Imagine enjoying a president that is actually doing what he ran on instead of just complaining why he can't get done what he promised so he has something to run on next time.

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He's dead, Jim.

Why can’t it be both?

I don’t think any dismantling of the federal government by the Trump administration is done in good faith.

That is to say it’s not being done based upon an ethos or philosophy of small government/opposition to the bureaucratic nightmare-state.

This appears to all be theater. Trump is, and has shown in his previous administration, that he’s exactly the same as every other President: a statist who is loathe to let go of power once taken.

I'd say being pissed at the bureaucratic nightmare-state that did everything it could to subvert, slow walk, and sabotage his first term while ginning up prosecutions and investigations and thus wanting to destroy it is a philosophical basis, wouldn't you?

And even if it isn't in good faith, why do you care? This is potentially more progress toward small government than we have seen in a hundred years. Float some talk about shuttering the Dept of Ed. and suddenly Lagduf seems to have cold feet about it.

You take wins when you get them and push for more, don't sit on the sidelines pouting with an all or nothing attitude. Same reason I supported Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal. Even if the execution was botched, I still ultimately would prefer that we not have a presence there and I'll take that result even with a Catholic-level effective pull-out than continue to stay there because we 'didn't do it the right way'.
 

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I’ve been doing some financial management at the behest of my boss, so I started funneling some of that money into my Domino’s crypto wallet…so yeah, really don’t care.
 

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Imagine enjoying a president that is actually doing what he ran on instead of just complaining why he can't get done what he promised so he has something to run on next time.

Also


He's dead, Jim.



I'd say being pissed at the bureaucratic nightmare-state that did everything it could to subvert, slow walk, and sabotage his first term while ginning up prosecutions and investigations and thus wanting to destroy it is a philosophical basis, wouldn't you?

Is that what is happening?

Doesn’t look like it. Get rid of the FBI and abolish the DOJ or the murderers at ATF, DEA, US Marshall’s, etc.

And even if it isn't in good faith, why do you care? This is potentially more progress toward small government than we have seen in a hundred years. Float some talk about shuttering the Dept of Ed. and suddenly Lagduf seems to have cold feet about it.

I care because the ends don’t justify the means.

And maybe if it was a good faith effort people would be more inclined to hop on board. When the act appears to be solely based on malice you’re going to turn people away on principle.

You take wins when you get them and push for more, don't sit on the sidelines pouting with an all or nothing attitude.

I agree it can’t be all or nothing…but what, exactly, have we won so far? I see nothing worth writing home about.

Same reason I supported Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal. Even if the execution was botched, I still ultimately would prefer that we not have a presence there and I'll take that result even with a Catholic-level effective pull-out than continue to stay there because we 'didn't do it the right way'.

There was no issue with the Afghanistan withdrawal. Are eople still butthurt a suicide bomber killed some marines?
 

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In summation: Perfect is the enemy of the good, but I’ve yet to see anything good. Perhaps it’s too early to tell. So I’ll wait and see, but my perception is that this is nothing more than a negotiation tactic to obtain leverage to enact some other grift.

Time will tell.
 

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Either way, that was Trump's pull out, just carried out by Biden. Just like Trump's vaccine, which magically became Biden's vaccine somehow.

Anyway, I respect lithy's position because at least he's signing up for what is actually happening. Not like the don't-know-how-tariffs-work people.

For the rest of us, I think all we have left is to root for Trump and Musk as accelerationists. Because the slow descent into hell guided by the uniparty wasn't ever going to turn around.

In summation: Perfect is the enemy of the good, but I’ve yet to see anything good. Perhaps it’s too early to tell. So I’ll wait and see, but my perception is that this is nothing more than a negotiation tactic to obtain leverage to enact some other grift.
I think after Musk's recent partnership with Visa, he is thinking to privatize the government employee (roughly 3mil people, not including military) payment system somehow and multiply his fortune again. Maybe he'll own the Federal Reserve before this is done. How fun would that be?
 

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Acceleration towards…what exactly?
Finish up that pesky wealth transfer from the 99% to the 1% they've been trying to pretend hasn't been happening since Regan. They've slowly been ramping up the speed, especially since covid, and now they're about to break into a full out run. We're getting there either way, but at least with them going full speed, there's a microscopic chance the working class will be shaken awake. That microscopic chance is pretty much all we have. That and the hope we can maybe rebuild from the ashes.
 

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Yeah, I think some chinese asshole wished may you live in interesting times on someone, and the rest of us are collateral damage.
 
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