Interest in a mvs-scan equivalent for jamma boards?

Shuri

Kula's Candy
10 Year Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Posts
294
:snack:

I've been juggling with this idea all summer.

Would there be any kind of interest for a big wiki site that would host high quality scans/pictures of known legit pcb boards of games? We already have the way excellent mvs-scan site, but what about something for regular jamma/non jamma titles?

There would be a few issues/conditions...

  • The point was already raised in another thread that giving away too much info could help bootleggers get better at their craft. We can avoid this by only allowing pics of legit, confirmed boards.
  • We obviously can't use stolen pics lifted from ebay/other sources. The Pics have to be fresh and original :buttrock:
  • There should be standards for the submitted pics. Resolutions, lighting conditions, size, etc
  • That means the site could use more bandwidth than God :annoyed:
  • A wiki site is somewhat easy to use and setup, and would allow users to submit their own material. This could simply moderation and also; we all have lives and we don't want to spend our entire weekends sorting 30mb jpgs :eek_2:

There's so much info scattered around the internet on many forums; having some sort of centralized site would be useful. Let's not forget how the sega-naomi.com forums went down last year for 'an upgrade', and never came back. So much fucking info was lost in this, what a god damn disaster.....

I realise it's a big undertaking, but with time; a site like this could become an useful resource. There are so many variants of boards sometimes with the different regions, it's easy to get confused.
 
Last edited:

Kid Panda

The Chinese Kid
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Posts
12,514
It would also be beneficial to have shots of known bootlegs as well. I've got a handful of those as well.
 

Skips

Belnar Institute Student
Joined
Aug 8, 2012
Posts
1,248
Honestly it would be nice to have a General Neo-Geo.com Wiki site where not only scans can be posted but all the technical/modding information can be as well (for all consoles). Kind of a general purpose page people can go to to find answers before posting. Lets face it, you might find your answer with the search function but it can be a pain in the dick sometimes.
 

EllertMichael

Mickey's Coach
Joined
Dec 8, 2011
Posts
579
That would be a great resource, for sure.
As of now gamesdbase.com has a fairly good collection of PCB pics, but they don't really describe them well (region differences, etc.) and they are missing a lot.

It would also be beneficial to have shots of known bootlegs as well. I've got a handful of those as well.

Absolutely. It takes an awful lot of scouring before you eventually know what to look out for when buying PCB's. A one-stop site like the one described would be fantastic for those looking to get into arcade stuff. Even some general articles on things like handling/care of PCB's, testing voltages, maintenance/cleaning, troubleshooting could be nice additions.

Maybe also include a list of reputable sources and also a list of known scammers/bootleggers in the arcade scene.
 

coreykun667

Galford's Armourer
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Posts
455
A centralized website would be quite handy for the community. It'd help a newbie like me be able to better gain info on arcade stuff. Owning a cab has been quite an experience. With a database, it'd be easier to help others get into this hobby. If I have problems with the cab, I'd have to go to a bunch of different sites. One centralized site would be VERY useful.
 

SuperGun

Proto Hunter
20 Year Member
Joined
Nov 10, 2001
Posts
908
Over the last 15 to 20 years, whenever I needed dip switch settings, board pin outs, pcb pics, etc.
99% of the time I have always just gone to: www.crazykong.com
 

LegoSlug

Over Top Auto Mechanic
Joined
Dec 10, 2012
Posts
864
Over the last 15 to 20 years, whenever I needed dip switch settings, board pin outs, pcb pics, etc.
99% of the time I have always just gone to: www.crazykong.com

Bookmarked. Didnt know about that one. Thanks.

Since this site seems to be retired, wouldnt hurt to have a regularly updated site, especially for alternate versions or even known boots
 
Last edited:

HeavyMachineGoob

My poontang misses Lenn Yang's wang
10 Year Member
Joined
Apr 3, 2011
Posts
5,813
I'd love to see an idea like this get started. Would this cover pre-Jamma games? Or are those not as pressing an issue? What about Jamma boards that had their own individual games?
 

MidnightMonkey

Loyal Neo-Disciple
Joined
Jun 1, 2014
Posts
825
Being the OCD nutjob that I am, this is probably one of the best ideas I've heard on here since I joined. You should write the admins on KLOV and see if they'll host the space for it, then everyone can contribute!
 

Shuri

Kula's Candy
10 Year Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Posts
294
I'd love to see an idea like this get started. Would this cover pre-Jamma games? Or are those not as pressing an issue? What about Jamma boards that had their own individual games?
I think it should cover everything actually. Pre-Jamma games were getting bootlegs too!

I don't know about the KLOV admins, they don't seem to care much about the forums anymore and their own database of titles is rather messy, but they do already have a huge database of infos.. And KLOV is very mainstream, I think people on this forum are far more knowledgeable
 

Kid Panda

The Chinese Kid
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Posts
12,514
Most of the bootlegs I have are pre jamma as a matter of fact. I just bought an Alcon that ended up being a bootleg Slap Fight. Needless to say I'm a little pissed. Plus it has repairs all over it that were not disclosed. Yea KLOV.
 

loegan43

I've served my time in the Dark Army., Have you?,
15 Year Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2007
Posts
1,946
I think it'd be a great idea. I've got quite a few boards I could photograph and contribute. Including bootlegs as well would be a good idea. Would definitely help to avoid them.
 

Jonmkl

Rasputin's Rose Gardener
Joined
Aug 29, 2012
Posts
715
I was thinking about this the other day actually, just having breakdowns of revisions and differences among regions on popular boards would be amazing. CPS1 and 2 are good examples where there are a lot of conversions and uncased games, and there are often small variations between the ones I see.
 

KalessinDB

Mr. Big's Thug
Joined
Dec 17, 2013
Posts
202
I have a reseller account with Dreamhost that offers "unlimited" storage and bandwidth, I could probably help with hosting.

I put "unlimited" in quotes because it's standard unlimited fare -- if you use too much processor time on the shared server, they will ask you to pay for private hosting. But while this feels like it would be high bandwidth, I don't know necessarily that it would tax the server's processing power too much.

If someone's seriously interested, PM me and I can set up an account. I know I don't have too much of a name here, but I've dealt with mjmjr25 a fair bit here and on Racketboy and he can probably vouch for me.
 

ebinsugewa

Rosa's Tag-Team Partner
10 Year Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Posts
2,495
Just host the images on imgur or some crap, and have a local backup in case they ever go down.
 

Shuri

Kula's Candy
10 Year Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Posts
294
I created a wiki using wikia.com which is free, but probably has tons of limitations, it also makes the site dependent of a company that could shutdown at any moment. Also I believe that when you reach a certain size, it will add banners and popups

I'm not exactly an expert wiki guy, but here are two small pages I made..

http://jammawatch.wikia.com/wiki/Sega
http://jammawatch.wikia.com/wiki/Sega_STV_(ST-V)

The text is obviously random filler for the STV page.

Accounts are easy to create, but this is just an example to get an idea on how I see this. From the SEGA STV page, the game listing would lead us to info about each title, each individual game page could list all the variants, versions, regional differences, kick-harness requirements, and also guides on how to create them.

I think it would be important to always give sources, this way people who dug out the infos originally dont feel ripped off.

This is just a 'feeler'
 
Last edited:

aoiddr

Over Top Auto Mechanic
Joined
Jan 10, 2013
Posts
855
I don't know about the KLOV admins, they don't seem to care much about the forums anymore and their own database of titles is rather messy, but they do already have a huge database of infos.. And KLOV is very mainstream, I think people on this forum are far more knowledgeable

Yes, their database has a number of games with the wrong titles (example: the Taito F3 game Pop'n Pop is just listed under "Pop" on their site) and there are a bunch of missing games from the 2000s onward (like Dance Dance Revolution SuperNova 2, and half the Namco 246/256 games). I was using their game collection page to catalog my arcade games and it started to become a problem when I couldn't even find my games at all in their database.
 
Last edited:

cools

New Challenger
Joined
May 1, 2009
Posts
54
This is why I recommended just adding to the Arcade Otaku wiki if they're cool with it. http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Main_Page

No sense rewriting stuff that already exists in a better form somewhere else.

More than happy. It's not seen much work recently ( http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Special:RecentChanges )as the guys that re-purposed their OCD-tendencies to populate a lot of it have found other interests, but we have plenty of space, I keep the software up to date, and there are multiple backups kept in separate locations in case the worst happens.

Everyone is welcome to contribute - you don't need to post on the forum (although you do require an active forum account to log in to the wiki).

Just wish I could get hold of the arcade.info domain for it though ;)
 

Shuri

Kula's Candy
10 Year Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Posts
294
awesome stuff!

I'll start taking pics of my boards this weekend. I don't have much stuff but eh, its better than nothing
 

cools

New Challenger
Joined
May 1, 2009
Posts
54
If it helps, what I do is work from two places. Since I'm primarily interested in the stuff I own, I hold my collection list on a personal page with links to games (whether or not the wiki pages for those games exist): http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/User:Cools

The links then contribute to the "Wanted Pages" list that gets autocreated here: http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Special:WantedPages

Showing me we could really do with a page for Capcom! :lol:
 

Kid Panda

The Chinese Kid
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Posts
12,514
Sounds good. I'll snap some pics of my boards and start posting the up over at arcade otaku ;)
 

nork69

Marked Wolf
10 Year Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2010
Posts
213
THATS a good Idea ! Lets go !
All the info in 1 place, that the best way to do it.
 

Stompp

Kuroko's Training Dummy
Joined
Jul 28, 2012
Posts
78
That is an ace idea! Most of the stuff I own is quite common but I'll be contributing with whatever I can.
 
Top