BEST RPG on the NGPC?

Dean · Nov 13, 2003

Picking RPGs wasn't easy, since some are border line (Dive Alert to be included in the coming "simulation" poll and is Dark Arms an RPG or what else?). Feel free to discuss what is and isn't an RPG, I could be persuaded to add another to the poll.

bokmeow · Nov 13, 2003

Frankly I don't think Faselei! falls under the RPG category, I think it falls under 'strategy/simulation' but eh, I voted for it anyways since it's on the list.

If Faselei! wasn't on the list my vote would be Dark Arms: Beast Buster.

Dean · Nov 13, 2003

bokmeow said:
Frankly I don't think Faselei! falls under the RPG category, I think it falls under 'strategy/simulation' but eh, I voted for it anyways since it's on the list.

If Faselei! wasn't on the list my vote would be Dark Arms: Beast Buster.

But the question is does Faselei! fit in better with RPGs or with the likes of Melon-chan and Super Strip Mahjong as simulations? I had to draw the line somewhere.

c.t.h · Nov 13, 2003

BMU2...

I really enjoyed the first one, and while I didn't play this one for so long as it's not english, from what I saw it looks like it's excellent...much longer, cool graphics, I liked it even though I couldn't read the text.

Sweater Fish Deluxe · Nov 13, 2003

I'm quite torn on this one. Dark Arms is definitely my favorite game on the list, but I just can't think of it as an RPG in any significant way, not even an action-rpg.

And how the hell can you consider Dive Alert an action/platform game? I don't see that at all, Dark Arms has way more arcade style action in it than Dive Alert.

I guess I don't understand what sort of criteria you're using to split these games up. What exactly is the RPG in Dark Arms? Just the fact that you level up your weapons?

...word is bondage...

Dean · Nov 13, 2003

Sweater Fish Deluxe said:
I'm quite torn on this one. Dark Arms is definitely my favorite game on the list, but I just can't think of it as an RPG in any significant way, not even an action-rpg.

And how the hell can you consider Dive Alert an action/platform game? I don't see that at all, Dark Arms has way more arcade style action in it than Dive Alert.

I guess I don't understand what sort of criteria you're using to split these games up. What exactly is the RPG in Dark Arms? Just the fact that you level up your weapons?

Oops. I actually meant to include Dive Alert as simulation. I'll fix that in the first post.

Dark Arms is more or less and RPG since you can level up, you can save your status, and it's more or less map driven. Sure, it's not typical RPG, but neither is Faselei!.

I have to draw the lines somewhere or there'd be 30 categories of games. Think about this one: where do you put Ganbare and Card Fighters? Simulation? Variety? What is "Variety"? Seriously, enough people think of Dark Arms as an RPG that it could easily fit on this list, and is therefore on the list.

redrum666 · Nov 14, 2003

i voted for Evolution

D-Lite said:
Think about this one: where do you put Ganbare and Card Fighters? Simulation? Variety? What is "Variety"?

i think of Card Fighters as a strategy type game

suicidekiller · Nov 14, 2003

mh i dunno what to vote. i was extremly disappointed by faselei, it's always the same shit, kill all opponents, thats just l4m3. dark arms is damn hard, not fun at all. and biomotor unitron is an ok game (not very good/not very bad). and the rest i've never played

evil wasabi · Nov 14, 2003

Either Kikouseki or Nigeronpa... Hmmm... Ironically, both of those games are in Japanese... So I couldn't enjoy them fully...
Faselei! is cool too, but naaah...

I can't feel like I can make up my mind yet between Kikouseki and Nigeronpa yet... I'd have to finish them first.

PS: Why oh why isn't Shigeru Mizuki (aka Ghost Photo Studio) in the poll ? :spock:

bokmeow · Nov 14, 2003

Stifu said:
PS: Why oh why isn't Shigeru Mizuki (aka Ghost Photo Studio) in the poll ?

That's a good point. Probably the best RPG I played on the Neo Geo Pocket.

Insaneclown · Nov 14, 2003

Biomotor Unitron no doubt! I literally played this game for hours upon hours. :buttrock:

Spectre · Nov 14, 2003

The whole 'what makes an rpg?' thing is a tough one. I think its a question of how the game plays; if there is a lot of exploring involved then a game 'feels' more like an rpg than it's core gameplay might suggest. Take a game like Super Metroid on the SNES. It's not exactly benchmark rpg, you could call it a platform shooter, but the nature of the explore the map and collect new items thing makes the overall gameplay experience more like a rpg.

I've not played dark arms, but from the reviews I've read and the screenshots I've seen, it doesn't look a million miles away from a game like Zelda, just with guns. You know, top-down map-based monster splatting. The point is that it has more depth to it than a simple shoot-em-up.

FormlessOne · Nov 14, 2003

Ogre Battle, straight G shit!

Dean · Nov 14, 2003

Stifu said:
PS: Why oh why isn't Shigeru Mizuki (aka Ghost Photo Studio) in the poll ?

You know what, I thought about that for a bit and thought most people would complain about it "not being a true RPG".

But...... check the poll now.
If anyone voted for something other than Ghost Photo and wants to change their vote, I might be persuaded....

Syxx573 · Nov 14, 2003

I think CFC should be included.

evil wasabi · Nov 14, 2003

D-Lite said:
You know what, I thought about that for a bit and thought most people would complain about it "not being a true RPG".

But...... check the poll now.
If anyone voted for something other than Ghost Photo and wants to change their vote, I might be persuaded....

I think this game is a more of a true RPG than some other titles listed in the poll.

Also, if you don't think it's an RPG, what would you classify it as ? It'd have to have its own type or something (yay, it's a "Shigeru Mizuki-like"

).

Dean · Nov 14, 2003

Syxx573 said:
I think CFC should be included.

If I include CFC, then I should include the other card games, like Shanghai Mini? It has a password system and levels too!

evil wasabi · Nov 14, 2003

I don't think CFC should be included...
The "RPG" side of CFC is not important, they even totally dropped it in the sequel...

You got no level up or anything in that game either...

bokmeow · Nov 14, 2003

D-Lite said:
You know what, I thought about that for a bit and thought most people would complain about it "not being a true RPG".

But...... check the poll now.
If anyone voted for something other than Ghost Photo and wants to change their vote, I might be persuaded....

Count me in as defecting from my vote for Faselei! to Shigeru Mizuki's Ghost Photo Studio

Dean · Nov 14, 2003

bokmeow said:
Count me in as defecting from my vote for Faselei! to Shigeru Mizuki's Ghost Photo Studio

Done.

abdul · Nov 14, 2003

without a doubt in my mind...

FASELEI!

everyone should own this masterpiece

Klax · Nov 14, 2003

March of the black queen, still one of the finest RPGs i've ever played. Votes in!

Sweater Fish Deluxe · Nov 14, 2003

Stifu said:
I don't think CFC should be included...
The "RPG" side of CFC is not important, they even totally dropped it in the sequel...

You got no level up or anything in that game either...

It seems to me that, Cardfighter is as much of an RPG as Faselei and Ogre Battle. It's just that the medium through which the battles are played out is different. Abstract card fighting rather than more literal battling. And you do level up in a sense, by getting better cards and reworking your deck.

I don't know, I guess at a certain point all this categorization gets counter-productive. I can't even vote in this poll.

...word is bondage...

Dean · Nov 14, 2003

Sweater Fish Deluxe said:
I don't know, I guess at a certain point all this categorization gets counter-productive. I can't even vote in this poll.

Just wait until we do a best game overall poll.... That's gonna be ugly. So many possibilities to include.

Giby · Nov 14, 2003

Ogre Battle

BEST RPG on the NGPC?

Which do you feel is the best RPG available for the Neo Geo Pocket (Color)?

Biomotor Unitron

Dark Arms: Beast Buster

Evolution

Faselei!

Kikouseiki Unitron (Biomotor Unitron 2....)

Nige-Ronpa

Ogre Battle

Shigeru Mizuki (aka Ghost Photo Studio)

Choi's Clawmaker

Ned's Ninja Academy Dropout

Choi's Clawmaker

Maxima's Barber

Marked Wolf

Choi's Clawmaker

Mai's Apprentice

Host for Orochi,

The Jongmaster

Ned's Ninja Academy Dropout

ICP Suxorz

Banned

Chin's Drinking Partner

Choi's Clawmaker

Azura's Swordsmith

The Jongmaster

Choi's Clawmaker

The Jongmaster

Ned's Ninja Academy Dropout

Choi's Clawmaker

Aero Fighters Flyboy

n00b

Marked Wolf

Choi's Clawmaker

Disciple Of Orochi