HELP!--Manual anomaly between my 2 LB2 US NGH carts!

In my quest to find the most mint carts out there, I purchase more than one of the same carts to satisfy my anal collective ways and recently I picked up my second LB2. However, I was comparing them because I was going to sell one of them and noticed a serious discrepancy (???) with one of the manuals. I know exactly who I purchased the two from. Since I am relatively new to the scene I had never seen a LB2 US cart up close and personal and when I got my second cart and was able to compare it, seems as though one manual may actually be a re-production manual. Please advise on this as I have included pictures below. I have compared both inserts and they are identical, same gloss, same paper, same color quality. EXACT. It's just the manual that gets me. It may be because the manual in question is sunfaded and I didn't know it at the time until I got the other LB2.

In the pictures below, the manual in question is labeled "LB2_b",

I really would like help on this as I am quite scared that I may have been sold a LB2 that isn't original, but seeing as though the inserts are just identical, it doesn't make sense.

PICS

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same pic as above color corrected in Adobe Photoshop




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Cart Inserts
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-5/25509/lb2_frontboth_compare_alpha_edit.jpg


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-5/25509/lb2_backboth_compare_alpha_edit.jpg

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If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it.


Thanks

Does the INSERT look real and the Cart sitcker look real? Are they the same as each other?

When you start a press the color shifts a bit and one is likely from the middle to end o fthe run when the color is perfect (the one on the lrft) and the other from the beginning of the run (right) when the color was not up to full accuracy. I have seen this from working in the magazine industry... ( A press is a press and whether printing Neo manuals or magazine the color issues are the same).

Does the manual lie flat?

Color aside... is the ink the same? Same dot pattern?

Are they the same weight (though paper looks the same, it may not be the same stock) if you put them on a scale? They should be VERY close in wieght like fractions of an ounce. So to the post office and have each weighed.

ryan

You know I took a long second look at the picture and the manual on the right does look like a fake, the color can be explained, but the cut of the pages is really not as good and SNK has always done that very well...

If you want to send the manual to Shawn he'd probably give it a thumbs up or down. just ask.

I'd offer to look at it, but sold my LB2s a while ago.

Ryan

rimm_rs said:

Does the INSERT look real and the Cart sitcker look real? Are they the same as each other?

When you start a press the color shifts a bit and one is likely from the middle to end o fthe run when the color is perfect (the one on the lrft) and the other from the beginning of the run (right) when the color was not up to full accuracy.

Does the manual lie flat?

Color aside... is the ink the same? Same dot pattern?

Are they the same weight (though paper looks the same, it may not be the same stock) if you put them on a scale? They should be VERY close in wieght like fractions of an ounce. So to the post office and have each weighed.

if yes to the above then the first paragraph is your answer.

ryan

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lol...that's the thing. The one on the right, "LB2_b" feels a tiny bit heavier and you can actually SEE the dot structure within the art. When the manuals are side by side, a noticeable difference can be seen. I am quite scared to be frank and the fact that the inserts are IDENTICAL doesn't seem to help any.

Boy, the LB2_A looks like the bogus copy to me.
The images are abit blurred and the epilepsy cards in the manual look more like LB2_B's
Who knows with SNK..??Do the stocks feel similar? Nothing should be stiff.
-BB

BIG BEAR said:

Boy, the LB2_A looks like the bogus copy to me.
The images are abit blurred and the epilepsy cards in the manual look more like LB2_B's
Who knows with SNK..??Do the stocks feel similar? Nothing should be stiff.
-BB

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umm..ACTUALLY, LB2_b (on the right) is STIFF....I swear it seems that LB2_b was printed on a dot matrix printer. I can see the dot structure. The words on the epilepsy card on LB2_b looks like it was photocopied. It's not CRISP at all. I tried so many times to take good pictures that can get the fine print, but my crappy 2.0MP camera from 1998 is really frustrating and I have some cameras on ebay I am going bye today...but I digress....I'll try and take some pics to illustrate the actual text differences within the manuals

Get a 10x magnifyng glass, and you'll easily see what's up with the print.

Still it sounds to me like the questionable manual is fake as I said before since it's on heavier stock and has an inkjet dot pattern.

Now just because it is fake does not mean that the game or insert are.

Again a 10x glass will let you kow for sure.

Whom did you buy it from? Eve if they wre not aware of this people should knoe that the seller does not know how to spot fakes.

Look at page 5 of both of the manual. Look at how it is cut near the bottom on LB2_b. This is just pretty bad when I look deeper and deeper into it.

ALso the LB!_b insert looks a loy sjarper, is this a camra focus issue or in person is that still true?

rimm_rs said:

ALso the LB!_b insert looks a loy sjarper, is this a camra focus issue or in person is that still true?

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if you meant sharper, then NO, it's a camera focus thing. Actually the words are crisp and sharp in LB2_a and "smudged" in LB2_b. I wish I had a damn better camera.

I was actually going to wait and buy either a Canon S45 or G3 because I knew I would have to take really really really fine pics to see the words clearly, but I just couldn't wait. This issue was bothering me too much. The cut of LB2_b just doesn't seem right.

Can anyone else provide any input.

What I noticed most besides the color is the way LB2b's open edge does not look to be aligned properly. LB2a manual seems to meet perfectly on the open side. lb2 side does not (especially in the pic where you see it upside down. It almost looks like it was folded by hand.

All of my manuals of the same size are aligned like lb2a, none are off like lb2b.

You got a US LB2 with a bogus manual.
If the cart and insert are identical (as they appear to be), then its just the manual that's faked.

Oh!! Okay,it's the camera!!
You are an HONORABLE SELLER so I'm sure you'll judge things accordingly.
Seeing axs I've been waaay off on my assessment I withdraw my comments
-BB