EeeGad! I finally finished my latest SuperGun, well nearly!! 56k users beware!

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

Hey thar fellow Coin-Op loyalists!! Man I'm stoked......I've just finished my latest SuperGun other than the implementation of an video encoder, but its all provisioned as far as wiring goes so RGB only at the mo!! All things in time I guess, but other than that its my most resolved and complete solution yet, supporting all the variables I could think of like 4 player games, Kick Harness input for 6 button fighters, -5v which comes in handy every now and again, etc, etc..........Anyway take a look at the pics and critique away guys, I'm always up for some constructive criticism!!

BTW, The small cluster of microswitches are for 'Test'/MVS game select 'up'/MVS games select 'down'/'service' and I use 8 pin mini-din for RGB output and a 3 pin mini microphone jack for DC input.

And heres this bad boy driving some 'Gladitor' IGS PGM lovin!! :buttrock:

Robert · May 12, 2004

I love it!! It looks good and small at the same time :buttrock:

P.S: what's the problem with your TV??

breal · May 12, 2004

It looks nice man. :buttrock:

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

Hehe my TV he says :mr_t:

Thats my dearly beloved Nanao 29" dual res monitor and boy does it get a workout!! I can't justify the space a full cab would take up in my fience and my current 'little' place, so this is the next best thing. Beggars can't be choosers........... :tickled:

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

Heres a pic of all the insides and believe me, with the relatively compact casing and desire to keep it as a modular type construction (as in everything baring isolation plugs and connectors so the unit can easily be completely dismantled without desoldering anything) this is as tidy as it was ever gonna be!!

Bishamon · May 12, 2004

Nice Work!

Neo Ash · May 12, 2004

Very nice work! I can tell you put a good deal of time into making it.

NGT · May 12, 2004

Very nice work! I am very impressed, especially with the holes for the DB 15's. Very clean...

chris1 · May 12, 2004

Wow!!,,that is nice.. :buttrock:

pixeljunkie · May 12, 2004

wow, the inside looks as good as the outside! I am JEALOUS!

Clear Paper · May 12, 2004

Wow... really slick work.

Don't know how you're gonna squeeze a video encoder inside but you might want to try a stereo din port in place of the right-left (red-white) audio jacks.

What exactly is a kick harness? And why is it necessary? Doesn't the 15-pin D connector allow
1. Up
2. Down
3. Left
4. Right
5. Select
6. Start
7. Button 1
8. Button 2
9. Button 3
10. Button 4
11. Button 5
12. Button 6
13. +5v
14. ground
15. (spare)

MKL · May 12, 2004

Considering how close jamma connector and kick harness connector are to each other on a CPS2 motherboard, when the supergun is plugged into the jamma connector doesn't it obstruct the way to the kick harness connector?

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

Clear Paper said:
Wow... really slick work.

Don't know how you're gonna squeeze a video encoder inside but you might want to try a stereo din port in place of the right-left (red-white) audio jacks.

What exactly is a kick harness? And why is it necessary? Doesn't the 15-pin D connector allow
1. Up
2. Down
3. Left
4. Right
5. Select
6. Start
7. Button 1
8. Button 2
9. Button 3
10. Button 4
11. Button 5
12. Button 6
13. +5v
14. ground
15. (spare)

Yup you're exactly right on the Neo controller pin-out having enough spare pins for 3 extra push buttons and I use the last of the spares for coin input. The kick harness is for primarily Capcom fighting games. I just run a home made ribbon cable from the board header to the 10 pin connector on the Supergun to activate the extra kick buttons on D15 ports 1 & 2 that are needed on these games. Obviously I can't use regular Neo Sticks for 6 button gaming, but I've modded a few 3rd party controllers like the fantastic Namco PSX gray and yellow stick to do this job!!

Logicdustbin · May 12, 2004

wow! very nice.

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

MKL said:
Considering how close jamma connector and kick harness connector are to each other on a CPS2 motherboard, when the supergun is plugged into the jamma connector doesn't it obstruct the way to the kick harness connector?

Hehe yeah you'd think so wouldn't ya, but I just checked again and I've got about a 1/2" of depth between the two, check out the pics.

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

Neo Ash said:
Very nice work! I can tell you put a good deal of time into making it.

Time indeed! In fact I made myself take my time with bits like cutting out for the D15 ports and the 10 and 34 pin aux connectors as if I took my usual approach and rushed it; it would have been just plain nasty! Those tossing round the idea of working with aluminium housings, but reckon it’s too hard compared to plastic, reconsider! I found it quite good, mainly because plastic can be easy to go too far with filing wise, and mess up an otherwise perfectly good clearance hole, aluminium is slower going and ya just seem to slip up less! Watch the file clog factor though

Codeman1 · May 12, 2004

amazing

WHOA! That's awesome!! :multi_co:

Congratulations! :eek:

Magnaflux · May 12, 2004

That thing is bad as hell, I'm jealous :angry:

Seriously, where did you find that casing?

supergoose · May 12, 2004

where did you get the tool, that you used for making the holes for the joyports? my dad told me to stop using a file, but i can't find a shop that has those things in stock.

what i would need is one for a male 9 pin d-sub connector. maybe also one for a 15 (2 rows) pin one.

otherwise ...
awesome. i like just about everything besides the two different shaped rca jacks. (red & white)

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

supergoose79 said:
where did you get the tool, that you used for making the holes for the joyports? my dad told me to stop using a file, but i can't find a shop that has those things in stock.

what i would need is one for a male 9 pin d-sub connector. maybe also one for a 15 (2 rows) pin one.

otherwise ...
awesome. i like just about everything besides the two different shaped rca jacks. (red & white)

Man this may sound like I'm trippin, but as much as from the photo the audio RCA jack look like two different makes put together, on close inspection of my gun they are identicle!!!............??? How weird is that, they really do look different in that pic too uh!!

Hrmm I don’t want to kill the mystery on the 'D' connector cutting, but I did it the hard way, carefully marking them out with a template and guidelines then my trusty cordless drill removed most of the metal. The remainder was cleaned up with a small hacksaw blade and flat mill file and a smallish round file. Not too glamorous, but with persistence a clean result can be the reward!! One trick I used was to lean the walls of the cut always back into the inside of the unit so that the connectors jam in tight at the top of the holes. Also using nice plastic D15's probably helped as they are a little more flexible for working into slightly smaller holes than they are designed for!

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

Magnaflux said:
That thing is bad as hell, I'm jealous

Seriously, where did you find that casing?

Hehe thanks for the kind words Mag!! The casing I bought from an electrical supplier near me who mainly deal with the electrical/electronics trades, so they have an amazing range of stuff and the prices are generally more reasonable than main stream suppliers with their fancy sachets and barcodes etc. These guys just have drawers and trays full of loose components. Plus the guys behind the counter really know their stuff and are often engineers etc which is really helpful, not just you're regular car audio and cell phone specialists!!

The good news for you is that the housings are made by the good folks at Hammon Manufacturing in the States and Canada! Heres a URL to the type of thing I got my hands on on the Hammond site -

http://www.hammondmfg.com/1455.htm

Cheers!

subcons · May 12, 2004

Simply beautiful work. Props on a job very well done!

I don't have anywhere near the know how to make on of these things, but out of curiosity, how much money did this thing run you (if you even kept tally)?

John_Smith · May 12, 2004

subcons said:
Simply beautiful work. Props on a job very well done!

I don't have anywhere near the know how to make on of these things, but out of curiosity, how much money did this thing run you (if you even kept tally)?

Someone asked me the same thing in a PM so I worked out a ball park figure already! Not including any equipment and tooling, just for materials would be around $75 - $85. Maybe a little less, but yeah like you half assumed I wasn't keeping a tally! Obviously the cost of a Jrok or similar encoder would be an additional cost, unless ya make one up yourself obviously!!

Orochi Iori Y · May 13, 2004

Excellent work! The wiring and case are so clean!

NGT · May 13, 2004

looked that thing over again...

still impressed! Great work!! Especially the db15 holes by hand :buttrock:

GREAT!

Really makes me want to build another supergun!!

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