whatchin the debate john is looking like a sittin duck

evil son

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he looks shook while obama is calm an collect lol now im not a political guy (never voted in my life)but fear is in johns eyes what u guys think?
 

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McCain's throwing-out so much junk that Obama sounds like he's not sure how to respond without looking just as childish as his opponent. Problem is, right now, he's biting the bait...
 

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this is a good idea for now. other thread was damn near hijacked

I feel the same way. Obama is looking at McCain wanting to say, 'you can't be serious' but hes holdin back :(
 

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MODERATOR: "Climate control."
MCCAIN: "...Climate change."
MODERATOR: "Uh, yeah. Climate change."

:hammer: Wow. Didn't know it mattered that much!

Y'know, I like Obama. But when it comes to energy sources, his opposition to nuclear power is retarded. He speaks better than McCain, but the fact that McCain's campaign supports the development of a power source which inexpensively fuels post-industrial states around the world really makes him look like an old-fashioned, 1960s, anti-Soviet Union/Chernobyl peon.
 
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Nuclear Reactors are bad.

Whichever one is against it would get my vote.
 

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Nuclear Reactors are bad.
Not that I would expect any better than you, but explain why the negatives outweigh the positives with nuclear power (insane amounts of energy production, very little pollution) and then your opinion might mean something.
 

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its a good debate so far i guess.i dont think its gonna change much tho on behalf of mccain.

hehe im just lovin how obama is keepin his cool amn just breezing thru this mccain is the only one loosing his cool by expression an what hes saying.

lol at joe the plummer fuck out of here with that shit i mean really
 

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its a good debate so far i guess.i dont think its gonna change much tho on behalf of mccain.
The thing is that McCain himself seems like a pretty good guy. To be honest, when he first was running-through the Republican primaries, I was glad to hear what he was saying. On his own, he's rather affable. But when he's doing nothing except trying to slap Obama for being a terrorist sympathiser or having mainline Republican opinions put in his mouth, he's completely and utterly intolerable.

I might vote for "Real McCain." I'd never vote for "Neo-Con McCain."

Goddamn, Obama is pwning McCain's conservative healthcare plan. (Not that I much like Obama's, as I want a straight-up communist healthcare plan, but still, as with the rest of the election, it's the lesser of two evils, now.)

HAHAHA. McCain slipped and called Obama "Senator Government." It might have been a mistake, but it was an inadvertent burn on liberal governance.
 
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I might vote for "Real McCain." I'd never vote for "Neo-Con McCain."

Agreed. But would Joe The Plumber vote for the "Real McCain"?

Whoops, McCain just mentioned transplants again. That went over like a fart in church last time.:eek_2:
 

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I'm sick of hearing about Joe The Plumber. Obama should tell him to shut up and be done with it.
 

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so far obama uses logic mccain free balls so it canm go either way with who ever is watching most free ballers or people who use logic
 

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people at McCain's rallies that wanted him to put the beatdown on Obama by bringing up Ayers will be dissapointed.
 

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so far obama uses logic mccain free balls so it canm go either way with who ever is watching most free ballers or people who use logic
You and I both know that "logic" is not something which pairs well with a description of the majority of the American people. Nevertheless, Obama's not changing my mind, nor is McCain. Obama says "McCain stands for this" and frankly, I know that already. McCain says "Obama stands for this" and yes, I know that, too. The only people this debate could possibly affect so far are those who have yet to learn anything about these candidates or, for whatever illogical, over-emotional reason, gets hung-up on one possible thing "Obama is E-V-I-L because he supports partial birth abortion!" or "McCain is the D-E-V-I-L because he does not support greater healthcare availability!"

Sad, really, but in a two-party system, the only way to win is to "capture the middle ground" and as a result, any truly daring, revolutionary opinion-statements are practically suicide in a one-on-one debate.
 

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You and I both know that "logic" is not something which pairs well with a description of the majority of the American people. Nevertheless, Obama's not changing my mind, nor is McCain. Obama says "McCain stands for this" and frankly, I know that already. McCain says "Obama stands for this" and yes, I know that, too. The only people this debate could possibly affect so far are those who have yet to learn anything about these candidates or, for whatever illogical, over-emotional reason, gets hung-up on one possible thing "Obama is E-V-I-L because he supports partial birth abortion!" or "McCain is the D-E-V-I-L because he does not support greater healthcare availability!"

Sad, really, but in a two-party system, the only way to win is to "capture the middle ground" and as a result, any truly daring, revolutionary opinion-statements are practically suicide in a one-on-one debate.

true i agree man
 

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When John McCain talks about programmes to help the American people, my brain shuts off. The reason?--Because no matter how many programmes he and many of his fellow Republicans want or claim to promote to help the general public, they're never going to have enough money (and thus, have an excuse not to enact them) because their propositions for taxes to pay for these programmes just don't match-up.

McCain is interjecting himself into Obama's comments a lot. From my perspective, he's just making himself look uncomfortable and of ill-confidence. He even tried to make a joke at the end of the "education" section and...uh...I think he was the only one laughing.

PS- Thanks to evil son for making a thread by-which we could post play-by-play commentaries. I know I wouldn't have been posting had the only option been the normal OBAMA-MCCAIN thread.
 
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i say obama an again this is comin from a guy whos never voted he won the debate man its all about the kids an there future
but then again when u have a choice between a douche an a turd i mean whats the point?

hehe i am voting for obama i guess
 

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this debate is kind of like the Mayweather/De la Hoya Fight. the pundits are all talking about the aggressiveness of McCain tonight but they weren't really hitting Obama all that hard.
 

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Obama won based on consistency and message. McCain took the aggressor role but pissed all over himself by coming across as petty and arrogant.
 

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nobody ever wins a 3 game competition by winning 1 game and losing the other 2.
 

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nobody ever wins a 3 game competition by winning 1 game and losing the other 2.
While I'm not exactly fighting the pure-and-simple logic you're using there, the problem which reasonable, intellectual, studied, or attentive people seem to face in every American election is that mathematics is far too logical to apply to the emotion-driven voters which dominate the populace of this state.

Debates are supposed to be Mister Spock but most people are Captain Kirk.
 

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Obama's turtle game was ridiculously strong. McCain looked like he was about to cry during his comments on the rally's and he fucked himself over on this one.

Though i was getting tired of the Joe the Plumber BS. Some dude got his 15 minutes of fame because he questioned Obama's tax plan. Now all of sudden, he's a hero?
Yeah right:rolleyes:
 

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Loved Obama's comments on Palin. "She's a very good politician." LOL
 
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