New Kizuna Encounter from Switzerland

Tomcat

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if isn't a conversion with japan manual....

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I want it...:smirk:


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Late

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Were those sealing stickers used on euro/us carts?
 

Takumaji

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J0e Musashi said:
Lol, "only 4 known copies".

They're right though, there only are (to this day) four known copies of Kizuna Euro.

Maybe this one here is the fifth?

Nice game, the collector price tag of $12k+ is madness though.
 

lithy

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And in any case I think this makes more Euro KEs seen since this website opened than Euro U11s.
 

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Seriously, what makes this the "Euro" version? Just the English text?
This looks exactly like a cart I purchased on the old DHP list many years ago from a member for only $350. And it was in English. The fact that anyone is trying to charge $12K for this is laughable.

:oh_no:
 

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VinylBoy said:
Seriously, what makes this the "Euro" version? Just the English text?
This looks exactly like a cart I purchased on the old DHP list many years ago from a member for only $350. And it was in English. The fact that anyone is trying to charge $12K for this is laughable.

:oh_no:

I think you've missed something about some people on this site.
 

J0e Musashi

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Takumaji said:
They're right though, there only are (to this day) four known copies of Kizuna Euro.

Even though Telegames had a whole shipping box full of them, which is what 12 in a box?

Lol, "only 4 known copies".
 

kanakura

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the 5 Version of the holy gral found: http://www.planet-snk.de/?news=17444&name=Kizuna_Encounter_Heiliger_Videospielgral_gefunden :mr_t:

Here are the Pics from the Cart:

Kizuna-Encounter-Heiliger-Videospielgral-gefunden-1.jpg


Kizuna-Encounter-Heiliger-Videospielgral-gefunden-2.jpg


Kizuna-Encounter-Heiliger-Videospielgral-gefunden-3.jpg
 

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J0e Musashi said:
Even though Telegames had a whole shipping box full of them, which is what 12 in a box?

Lol, "only 4 known copies".
Dude, it is right now 4 or 5 copies known. That there were more copies is right. But most Euro Kizuna were shipped back to japan and they made new aes-modules of them.
 

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J0e Musashi said:
Even though Telegames had a whole shipping box full of them, which is what 12 in a box?

Lol, "only 4 known copies".

Most of them got relabelled and reburned and sold as different games, there was no reason for SNK to let the unsold Kizunas rot in shipping boxes.

It is 99% certain that only a handful of Euro versions survived this refurbishment, so far we're talking about four known copies.

I don't say there aren't any more copies of this game floating around but I would be surprised if there'd be more than 10.
 

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Takumaji said:
Most of them got relabelled and reburned and sold as different games, there was no reason for SNK to let the unsold Kizunas rot in shipping boxes.

It is 99% certain that only a handful of Euro versions survived this refurbishment, so far we're talking about four known copies.

I don't say there aren't any more copies of this game floating around but I would be surprised if there'd be more than 10.

Do you know what year this was? I guess something like that could have happned to alot of games then, when they were selling badly or what?

For 12 500$, this is more like an art or an antique object or something. In the future, if there is one, one of these will be shown at an antique television program or somethinig, and some schmuck will have had one lying around in his dusty basement having had no idea that it was worth so much and now finding himself being a milionaire. 4 or 5 copies...that is just damn SIRRY!!!1
 

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I was having a discussion with a friend the other day:

that cart isnt worth jack in circles outside neogeo fanboys

when I ask, everyone puts a solid value they think it costs, .. its always £30

:tickled:
 

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kernow said:
I was having a discussion with a friend the other day:

that cart isnt worth jack in circles outside neogeo fanboys

when I ask, everyone puts a solid value they think it costs, .. its always £30

:tickled:

Um, true for any collectibles.
 

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lithy said:
I think you've missed something about some people on this site.

I know full well about that. I've been on this board for years and have seen many of the lunatics do their thing... ;)

But I still don't think KE is worth $12,000 on ANY format regardless of its rarity. I mean, come on. Jack the price up if the collectors want to feel important, but to raise the price so it's worth 50x what it was brand new? Not only is that extreme, but it really makes the so-called collectors market look even more asinine. And people wonder why so many people in the gaming world look at Neo Geo fans and think we're crazy...
 

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VinylBoy said:
I know full well about that. I've been on this board for years and have seen many of the lunatics do their thing... ;)

But I still don't think KE is worth $12,000 on ANY format regardless of its rarity. I mean, come on. Jack the price up if the collectors want to feel important, but to raise the price so it's worth 50x what it was brand new? Not only is that extreme, but it really makes the so-called collectors market look even more asinine. And people wonder why so many people in the gaming world look at Neo Geo fans and think we're crazy...

Not only that but the game is average. :eek_2:
 

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I dont care if there is only four copies or not the price asked for this game is nuts I;ve played the rom and its nothing special not that special
 

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the price is nuts - but if there's a demand to meet the supply then there is no issue here. if the price is artificially inflated but contained to this small handfull of games, unless one of the 4 or 5 owners makes the choice of lowering the price - just because - then the price will always be as it is. if there are only 5 units in existence say, then this cluster can keep the price up and it will probably never drop - in other words, there will always be a buyer willing to meet the supply at the given price, as ludicrous as this may sound.

the price is nuts - but then so what?
it makes no difference - there is no real logic behind prices in collector's market unless the given area has become so sophisticated that a large amount of rules are established. and though this is not a demand driven price (atleast I think this is so - was the price set or did the last one sell at ebay auction), alot of times prices can go ridiculously high on a whim.

in the end - who cares? honestly. it's just a fetish for fetishists.
 
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jdotaku said:
I dont care if there is only four copies or not the price asked for this game is nuts I;ve played the rom and its nothing special not that special
it`s not the game itself, it is the rarity.
 

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@Temjin, this took place in 1996 and '97.

Ah well, good ol' Kizuna Euro price discussions... we had many of them in the past and it always boils down to the same result - there is something exceptionally rare and some people will pay big bucks to own it, that is all.

Yeah, it's only a video game we're talking about, yet this doesn't mean a thing to those few hardcore collectors and potential buyers of such a high-priced item because the crazy $12k price tag reflects the scarcity of the game, not the fact that it's a Neo title or a not too shabby tag fighter.

Some people still can't believe there are only a handful of Euro copies of this game around but it's not too hard to stomach once you realize that the European Neo market was very, very low at that time in the mid-90s when everyone and their uncle was playing PSX games. When Kizuna came out in 1996, it was just one of many excellent titles that got released in this magical year, among them such gems as Metal Slug, KoF96, Neo Turf Masters, Real Bout Fatal Fury, Samurai Shodown IV, Waku Waku 7, Art of Fighting 3, etc. Nobody, and I really mean nobody I know was interested in "lesser" releases of this year like Kizuna Encounter, Ninja Master's, Breakers, Quiz Chibi or Ultimate 11... ...doesn't that ring a bell? All these games are high-priced rarities now thanks to all the buyers who shunned them in favor of the big-hit-titles mentioned before. KoF96 was the big seller in Europe back then, that and Samsho IV, followed by RBFF.

So, the initial release numbers of these Euro versions (multi-language manuals, small insert differences) were quite low already and when retailers and distributers realized that the lesser '96 releases were dead weight on their shelves, they quickly sent them back to Osaka as raw material for new carts/releases... so who knows, perhaps some of the KoF98 or Last Blade carts you guys have in your games library once were legendary Euro Kizunas...

Of course the $12k price has no meaning outside of collector circles but again, that's nothing special. For example, some art collectors spend Millions on a rough concept drawing of Picasso which basically consists of a small piece of wrinkled paper with pencil strokes on it... and I guess I can safely say that only a fraction of those willing to spend that much are true art freaks, many of them simply love to own rare and valuable things. Outside of art collector circles, this super-high-priced Picasso drawing would be just a dirty piece of paper not worth a dime, it's the legend and its background which give it meaning and value beyond the mere raw materials.

I have no problems with this, people can do what they want with their money, if it makes them feel good to own a valuable collector item, more power to them. Just do what I do, sit back and enjoy the hush-hush collector drama surrounding Neo rarities such as Quiz Chibi, U11 or Kizuna Euro, it's a part of the Neo scene which I wouldn't want to miss. :)
 

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Maybe it would be better to wait for a confirmation of the authenticity of the cart?
IF it is the genuine game, it's in awesome condition.
 
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