The developing mainstream perception of the Wii (article from Sunday's NYT)

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You can't get anymore mainstream than the NYT, and this article appeared as a feature on the Sunday Arts&Leisure section. They usually do a decent job of finding what may be the trends brought up by the half-assed TV media when they start promoting (I mean reporting...) the device in 6 months.

Some of this has been discussed here, but it's interesting to see how trends are forming outside of the small niche of hardcore internet gam0rz. I also thought the author had a better-than-average grasp of what he was covering (unlike, say, most video game articles).

June 4, 2006
The Video Game Goes Minimalist: Nintendo Comes Full Circle
By SETH SCHIESEL

SOME new media, like the Internet and cellphones, begin life in a niche, as curiosities even, before becoming everyday elements of mainstream culture. Others evolve in the opposite direction.

Think about video games. Once upon a time, call it the 1980's, video games were simple. Facing one joystick and at most a couple of buttons, most anyone could simply drop a quarter into a Galaga or Ms. Pac-Man machine and have some cheap thrills. And because the games were simple, they were practically ubiquitous in bars, waiting rooms and other public places. Remember arcades?

Inevitably progress got in the way. As game machines have become cheaper over the years, they have mostly disappeared from public spaces and burrowed into bedrooms and dens. And as the machines have gotten more powerful, the games have gotten more complicated. Both avid gamers and the industry have come to fixate on the ever more impressive graphics and ever more complex scenarios that faster chips can create.

The results can be downright intimidating. People now in their 40's who might have just walked up to a Centipede machine and started playing when they were in college now might look at a Sony PlayStation 2 (which has 17 buttons and joysticks) and think, "I'll never figure that thing out."

Nintendo, the Japanese company synonymous with video games, wants to put an end to all that.

Trying to attract new fans and win back a growing population of lapsed players, the company is on an almost evangelical mission to rescue video games from the clutches of the sunlight-deprived, testosterone-addled, slightly gamy demographic group that has come to rule the gaming world. And the instrument of Nintendo's mission is called the Wii (pronounced we, not why). Every five years or so, the big game console makers release new flagship machines. Microsoft, maker of the Xbox, released its latest console, the Xbox 360, last November. This fall, when Nintendo plans to introduce the Wii, Sony is expected to weigh in with its PlayStation 3. But while Microsoft and Sony duke it out at the high end of the market with expensive machines (the PS3 will cost at least $500, not including games) that feature the flashiest high-definition graphics, Nintendo is taking a radically different, inexpensive path, one that focuses on how games feel rather than on how they look. The company says the system will sell for no more than $250.

Playing a video game may require looking at a screen, but the primary interface between a human and a game is the player's hands. So to play tennis with the Wii, you watch the screen, and when the ball comes, you simply swing your arm to make your on-screen avatar swing. (If you're good, you can get spin on the ball). To throw a football, you mimic throwing a football. To swing a sword — well, you get the idea.

The Wii controller has been consciously designed to resemble a television remote control, and the kinetic, tactile entertainment experience it produces is unlike anything on a current game machine. "My mother is never going to play a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 game because she simply cannot comprehend the controller," Dan Hsu, editor in chief of Electronic Gaming Monthly, a top game magazine, said in an interview. "But Nintendo wants to appeal to those people. Wii does feel very friendly and easy to use, and it's very intuitive because all you have to do is point the controller at the screen and just move it around. And most games only need one or two buttons."

Most North American game insiders got their first chance to use the Wii at the E3 game convention in Los Angeles last month, and it quickly became clear that the Wii was more than just a novelty. (A test version of the machine was demonstrated at the Tokyo Game Show last fall.)

With its sleek vertical design and unobtrusive white controller, the Wii is made to fit into a middle-class living room without looking like an alien invader from Planet Video Game. (By contrast the original Xbox's hulking black exterior turned off a lot of traditional nongamers. In response Microsoft made the Xbox 360 curved and off-white.)

More important than the unit's look, however, have been the almost entirely positive reviews from people who have played it. Tennis feels remarkably like tennis, employing a nearly full range of upper-body motion. With Excite Truck, the user holds the controller between two hands like a steering wheel and merely tilts it left and right to steer. You can also wield the Wii as a pen, a fishing rod and, of course, a weapon.

"We wanted to change the image that people have when you think of someone playing a video game," Shigeru Miyamoto, Nintendo's creative director (and the creator of the famed Donkey Kong, Mario and Zelda franchises) said during an interview at E3. "There is always this image where you think of a young person holding a controller in two hands kind of in a darkened room with the light of the TV shining on his face, and it's not a very positive image. We really wanted to break that by creating this interface that would allow people to be much more active."

But even as the company reaches for the mainstream, it knows it cannot afford to lose the millions of seasoned Nintendo fans. For them there are more complex games like new Wii installments of Zelda and Metroid Prime on the way. But the overall focus is on using the controller to make the gaming experience as simple and intuitive as possible.

It's the sort of approach that appeals to Nintendo fans like Floyd Hayes, 34, an advertising creative director who lives in Brooklyn.

"Nintendo has really the best track record in terms of innovation," he said, "and what they're trying, in dropping the barriers to game play by lowering the barriers presented by the controller, is fantastic. I'd love to be able to stop memorizing different button combinations for every game. It's like having to learn to walk all over again in every game, isn't it?"

Nintendo's innovation seemed to captivate attendees at E3. "Wii was extremely popular," said Mr. Hsu, who was there. "As usual Nintendo has the longest lines because they really draw in the hard core, but I noticed a lot of people who weren't the typical Nintendo fanboys were waiting in long lines to play Wii. That's because you have all these other games for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on the show floor, but they're pretty much what we've seen before, just with prettier graphics. But Wii is a totally new experience."

The company started its mission to expand the gaming audience with more user-friendly products in 2004 with the Nintendo DS handheld. While Sony has garnered more headlines with its sleek black PlayStation Portable, Nintendo has had at least as much success with the less expensive DS, which employs an entirely different approach. While many PSP games are for hardcore players, the top DS games were made to appeal to a wider audience. Nintendogs, for instance, which allows users to take care of a virtual dog, is a nonconventional game that has proved highly successful among women and girls who are not generally gamers. Another example is Brain Age, a series of mind-training games that have been hugely popular among middle-aged and older people in Japan and have recently been released in the United States.

"People often call this another next-generation game competition or war," said Nintendo's president, Satoru Iwata, who was also at the E3 convention, but "Nintendo is not trying to compete with merely the next generation. Instead we want to provide completely different experiences. What we want to provide you is not something that is simply a linear extension of current high-end gaming. But rather we will provide you with something brand new, something unprecedented."

It's no easy feat to make extremely complex technology feel as basic and straightforward as picking up a tennis racket or golf club. And it may be just as hard to excite a die-hard audience accustomed to the loudest bells and whistles. But it may be hardest of all to convince nongamers that they won't feel like geeks if they pick up a game controller. For Nintendo, however, the dream is that there is a huge untapped audience sitting out there that is ready to stop watching and start playing.
 

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Shigeru Miyamoto said:
"There is always this image where you think of a young person holding a controller in two hands kind of in a darkened room with the light of the TV shining on his face, and it's not a very positive image. We really wanted to break that by creating this interface that would allow people to be much more active."
Fuck you and the hore you rode in on.
 

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NeoTheranthrope said:
Fuck you and the hore you rode in on.
i like how you leave it open to whore or horse it could be either one no one knows!
 

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Nice article.

I'm 8 years old again when it comes to the Wii.
 

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NeoTheranthrope said:
Fuck you and the hore you rode in on.

Yeah, that could either be used to make us look better, or to push us further away...
 

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Shigeru Miyamoto said:
"There is always this image where you think of a young person holding a controller in two hands kind of in a darkened room with the light of the TV shining on his face, and it's not a very positive image."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I didn't see him complaining about the so called "image"
this painted back when most of us were kids strong arming
dad to buy his Super Mario Games, or his Zelda franchise. But
now it's a bad thing? Seriously just for that comment alone I
hope someone beats him half to death with the nunchuck
controllers and asks him "So how Nerdy is this you fuck?"

Let's see him design a Mario after getting beat down by
a pasty faced (TV illuminated faced) geek. On one hand I
will always admire the fucker, on the other though, when he
makes comments like that... he can just drop dead and fuck
his franchise bullshit.

MEH! :annoyed:

...trying to "repackage" gaming is weak. Gaming was, has been
and always be at it's root a niche/geek hobby. The fact we might
be seeing some geriatric slob trying to win his way through Red Steel
isn't cool, it's fucking lame. That's all I need. To go visit my folks and
Dad might be jumping up and down, or trying to beat some Tennis star
in front of the TV.
 

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Miyamoto can go suck a big one.

Fuck a repackaged GCN.

B-
 

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There are some raging dorks in this thread, and I sense more still to come...
 

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I'd love to be able to stop memorizing different button combinations for every game. It's like having to learn to walk all over again in every game, isn't it?"
No.
No it's not. Not even close.

Moron.
 

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Most of the people in this thread are seriously mentally retarded.

He is talking about NON Nintendo gaming.

NES/SNES had cleancut kids sitting in their family room, playing while their parents were reading something in the same room.

N64 had children and adults playing simultaneously fun games in the family room.

Gamecube had teenagers playing in their room, after homework and stuff.

Playstation had "hardcore" pierced teenagers playing in their closed door dark bedrooms, instead of doing their homework.

Playstation 2 had casual metrosexuals pretending to be hardcore gamers playing in their dimly lit "entertainment center" room with surround sound.

X-Box had pimply faced losers pretending to be Old School gamers while they downloaded vintage games and pornography in their padlockec dark bedrooms, occasionally playing some online game just to bitch and feel superior.
 
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Stormrider_2977 said:
...trying to "repackage" gaming is weak. Gaming was, has been
and always be at it's root a niche/geek hobby.


This, folks, is pure ignorance of the reality of it all. Gaming is, as much as you might want to delude yourself otherwise, a mainstream venture. Don't believe me? See: EA.
 

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DARK ANDY said:
Most of the people in this thread are seriously mentally retarded.

He is talking about NON Nintendo gaming.

NES/SNES had cleancut kids sitting in their family room, playing while their parents were reading something in the same room.

N64 had children and adults playing simultaneously fun games in the family room.

Gamecube had teenagers playing in their room, after homework and stuff.

Playstation had "hardcore" pierced teenagers playing in their closed door dark bedrooms, instead of doing their homework.

Playstation 2 had casual metrosexuals pretending to be hardcore gamers playing in their dimly lit "entertainment center" room with surround sound.

X-Box had pimply faced losers pretending to be Old School gamers while they downloaded vintage games and pornography in their padlockec dark bedrooms, occasionally playing some online game just to bitch and feel superior.

:lol: :tickled:
 

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Stormriding moron said:
...trying to "repackage" gaming is weak. Gaming was, has been
and always be at it's root a niche/geek hobby.

How stupid can you be? Seriously?

How many million households had an Atari 2600/7800?

How many million households had a NES?

How many million children AND adults played both of those consoles as a FAMILY?

Videogaming, has NEVER been a Niche/Geek hobby/whatever subhuman troglodyte you want to view yourself as.

Niche hobby names do not get used as a standard household name.

Ask you mother or grandmother what a Nintendo is. Or an Atari. Care to guess she'll know the answer?

Niche is fucking Yu-Gi-Oh. Niche is Initial D.

When 99% of the population in civilized nations know what it is, is not niche, it's mainstream.
 

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Orochi_invisibleink said:

You know it's true.

Nintendo has always been, and will always be about family entertainment.

No Nintendo console has been aimed at idiotic "grown up" adult gamers, like the dead PSP, or the dead 3DO, or any other crap system that tries to be more than what it is, Family gaming.

Look at me I can play Blu-Ray, I have the latest MGS and Final Fantasy, will you buy me for your children to play with?

Nope.
 

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zer0hue said:
There are some raging dorks in this thread, and I sense more still to come...

LOL, seriously!

I can't believe how offended some of you are of what, well, EVERYONE percieves gamers to be like --especially those older than 30 and/or who aren't gamers.

Now, I don't know if the Wii is going to actually succeed in getting past that stereotype, but at least they're going to try (and who knows, maybe do better than the GC's attempt).
 

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DARK ANDY said:
You know it's true.

Nintendo has always been, and will always be about family entertainment.

No Nintendo console has been aimed at idiotic "grown up" adult gamers, like the dead PSP, or the dead 3DO, or any other crap system that tries to be more than what it is, Family gaming.

Look at me I can play Blu-Ray, I have the latest MGS and Final Fantasy, will you buy me for your children to play with?

Nope.

I think it's scary that I agree with you.
 

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jethrek said:
This, folks, is pure ignorance of the reality of it all. Gaming is, as much as you might want to delude yourself otherwise, a mainstream venture. Don't believe me? See: EA.

It's mainstream now jocko boy, it wasn't in the begining. And no matter how many millions of consoles of NES, SNES, and Genesis might have sold back in the day... the hobby overall has always been one not much far removed from how Japan looked at the Animation "otaku". It's true things are different now, but I remember a time when if you were like:

"Dude fucking Final Fantasy III (6) fucking rules."

Everyone else was like > :rolleyes: "You still play video games? LOSER!"

or they didn't know about it and were like:

"...uggh yeah, that's cool." just trying to shut up whoever it was that had enthusiam for whatever the respective game.


DARK ANDY said:
How stupid can you be? Seriously?

How many million households had an Atari 2600/7800?

How many million households had a NES?

How many million children AND adults played both of those consoles as a FAMILY?

Videogaming, has NEVER been a Niche/Geek hobby/whatever subhuman troglodyte you want to view yourself as.

Niche hobby names do not get used as a standard household name.

Ask you mother or grandmother what a Nintendo is. Or an Atari. Care to guess she'll know the answer?

Niche is fucking Yu-Gi-Oh. Niche is Initial D.

When 99% of the population in civilized nations know what it is, is not niche, it's mainstream.

DUDE, READ MY FUCKING POST!

I said "gaming" was, is and always at it's roots be a niche/dorky hobby. I didn't say I could not accept the fact that the video gaming hobby has reached mainstream status, I SAID "AT IT's ROOTS". Simply selling several million + systems, where the game companies names are household words, might make the hobby more accessible but don't fool yourself. There are still more people who don't give a flying shit about whatever game it is that you or I, or Jethrek, or anyone else is draining into our boots over. Hell I've been gaming for 25 years now and I don't particularly care to hear about this game or that game or some idiotic HALO marathon that went on for 8 hours one night, everytime I happen to be out and about in the world. Logging into a devoted video game forum like this one and reading a respective thread is one thing, having to hear that crap though makes me want to shit kick half of them.

Sure Gaming, Japanimation, and even being an angst ridden individual might be more "accepted" and even has nifty titles attatched to them, but it's not a positive image either way. Be it the 8 year old who's been in front of his Nintendo system for weeks on end, is getting fatter by the day [because he doesn't go outside anymore] playing some candy assed Nintendo game, or a hardcore tattooed asshole trying to play through (2) seasons of Madden on an XBox 360... it's all the same.

@ BOBAK

Naw I'm not pissed about where gaming's gone. I've accepted that for the most part and play what I want. My problem is with self righteous assholes like Miyamoto, who make statements like that. I mean as far as market saturation is concerened [what some of you keep lableing "Mainstream"] for a product to be more accessible to a bigger demographic has been done already. Maybe minus the gimmick factor that Wii will have, but it's already been done. Then to go on to say he thinks that what we've all been doing for years, be it as a giddy little tyke back in the day trying to win over Zelda or Mario or whatever, or playing through a game of GTA or MGS is not a positive image to the public?

Sorry but FUCK THAT and FUCK HIM.

That's what I'm upset about. It's more of the "Holy Shit, let's try to candy coat everything again. Ppl won't further accept gaming if we don't try to turn around the image that's made us billions since 1983, so instead of sitting in front of a TV with a controller, now we'll make the average individual into a jumping, swinging asshole having a coniption fit in front of the TV" type deal. Sorry but that's horseshit, and an insult not to me personally, but to the very principle behind what has been lucrative and acceptable for a quarter century but now suddenly it's not viable. I don't give a shit if someone thinks I'm a dork or whatever for playing Gunstar Heroes in 2006, or whatever it is. Trying to legitimize something that doesn't need to be legitimized is fucking condescending IMO. Maybe most of you are the average "oh whatever... it's cool", take whatever's dangled in front of you CONFORM wolf packs, but not me. Some shit is out of line and had I been the one interviewing his ass and he said that I'd have rolled up a magazine and slapped him in the face with it.

And BTW ppl, "high accessiblity" doesn't equate "legitimized". Think of it this way. There are 3 Million + law abiding gun owners [some of us with assault rifles and more]. Hunting itself was once a "rite of passage" type deal, now all the fuck assed limp fisted fags and Socalist token citizens of the nation couldn't care less. OKAY. So just because a lot of ppl who don't run around acting a fool with those firearms have em, and you see all kinds of multi-media devoted to firearms out there, doesn't mean it's "legitimized". The picture most get today is that the gun ppl are these gun power weirdos etc. Others either don't care or continue to perpetuate the misbelief of knowing people they know nothing about. By Miyamoto's statement about gaming, that means that the levels of "acceptance" and/or "mainstreamism" if you want to use that term, is basically a not positive one. By saying that you're saying what you did before hand and the contributions made are a fucking joke. Sorry but that's some bullshit right there. Am I going to lose sleep over this? NOPE, slept just fine last night... but that doesn't mean it doesn't make me a little pissed. But I keep forgetting I'm a man of Principle surrounded by convenience NIMBY minded TCs 8 times out of 10.

Bottom line is Video Gaming "AT IT'S ROOTS" will
always be seen as something dorky. Market saturation
and high accessiblity doesn't change that fact. Now as
Melchia always says... put THAT in your pipe and smoke
it.


:chimp:
 

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Stormrider_2977 said:
I don't give a shit if someone thinks I'm a dork or whatever for playing Gunstar Heroes in 2006, or whatever it is.
Stop writing.

Find a calender.

Confirm for yourself that it is indeed the year 2006.

Resume your bitching.


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Stormrider_2977 said:
Then to go on to say he thinks that what we've all been doing for years, be it as a giddy little tyke back in the day trying to win over Zelda or Mario or whatever, or playing through a game of GTA or MGS is not a positive image to the public?

Sorry but FUCK THAT and FUCK HIM.

Umm..I don't think he meant it as a terrible thing. Just as how anyone not playing videogames would percieve most of us. But, I'm not going to try and defend the statement, since I'd be wasting my time. As far as how the public views my hobbies and what I do, I couldn't give a fuck what the public thinks about it. I'll still do it, because I love it, rather than sit around and bitch and moan about one man's comment. If you are going to throw a fucking fit over what one man thinks how the general public might view your pasttime, you just need to shut the hell up and move on. Period.
 

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zer0hue said:
Stop writing.

Find a calender.

Confirm for yourself that it is indeed the year 2006.

Resume your bitching.


Asterisk>> I love you, Merc...

I play plenty of recent [current gen] stuff actually.
Off and on, but I do. It's not bitching, it's voicing
an opinion that (as we've seen) usually gets slammed
by the majority of ppl, and isn't seen as a viable one.

KumagaiToshiro said:
Umm..I don't think he meant it as a terrible thing. Just as how anyone not playing videogames would percieve most of us. But, I'm not going to try and defend the statement, since I'd be wasting my time. As far as how the public views my hobbies and what I do, I couldn't give a fuck what the public thinks about it. I'll still do it, because I love it, rather than sit around and bitch and moan about one man's comment. If you are going to throw a fucking fit over what one man thinks how the general public might view your pasttime, you just need to shut the hell up and move on. Period.

I don't give a shit how he views MY pasttime.

It's the principle of the matter. How some
of you always miss that is beyond me. You know,
when you champion a cause based around "the principle"
of it. In this case not a cause, but making commentary on
some fuck twit like him, but of course the masses revere
him because he's so and so. Fuck that.

As for shutting the hell up and moving on.

I have for the most part, but I'll not be silent just for the
sake of having him or anyone make a mockery out of the
$55,000 bucks I put into the hobby from 1985 up till 2005
alone, respectively.

Now excuse me, I'm going to go take a shit and spell
Shigeru in my fecal matter. I've got the day off and
I won't waste it all sitting in front of my computer with
my face illuminated by the monitor light, typing endlessly
on a forum... because that WOULD NOT be a positive
image.
 

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Stormrider_2977 said:
I don't give a shit how he views MY pasttime.

It's the principle of the matter. How some
of you always miss that is beyond me. You know,
when you champion a cause based around "the principle"
of it. In this case not a cause, but making commentary on
some fuck twit like him, but of course the masses revere
him because he's so and so. Fuck that.

As for shutting the hell up and moving on.

I have for the most part, but I'll not be silent just for the
sake of having him or anyone make a mockery out of the
$55,000 bucks I put into the hobby from 1985 up till 2005
alone, respectively.

Now excuse me, I'm going to go take a shit and spell
Shigeru in my fecal matter. I've got the day off and
I won't waste it all sitting in front of my computer with
my face illuminated by the monitor light, typing endlessly
on a forum... because that WOULD NOT be a positive
image.

Again, who the fuck cares? Shut up, play the games and have a good time. One man shouldn't send you back to acting like you're ten years old. Since that's exactly what your tirade has turned into: a small child running to his mother because the other kids thought what he liked was stupid. It might've worked back then, but grown individuals should have the common sense to go "Eh" and continue on. Which is exactly what I'm going to do, since any more of this and I'll just end up repeating myself.
 

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ShitStormAsshugger said:
DUDE, READ MY FUCKING POST!

I said "gaming" was, is and always at it's roots be a niche/dorky hobby. I didn't say I could not accept the fact that the video gaming hobby has reached mainstream status, I SAID "AT IT's ROOTS". Simply selling several million + systems, where the game companies names are household words, might make the hobby more accessible but don't fool yourself. There are still more people who don't give a flying shit about whatever game it is that you or I, or Jethrek, or anyone else is draining into our boots over.

You have to be a completely delusional moron to actually contradict yourself several times in the span of a single tangent rant.

1. If anything becomes a household word, IT IS NO LONGER NICHE.

2. There are still more people who don't give a flying shit about American Football that those who do, and yet, it's MAINSTREAM.

3. Gaming, IN IT'S ROOTS, you single digit IQ paid by the word contentless spammer, IS ATARI. You know what Atari is? Ask your damn teacher, ask your dad, ask your convenience store owner, ask your gas station attendant, ask your banker, ask that person who walks the dog in front of your house, ask your wife's pool boy/dominated I'm naughty spank me bitch, ask your butcher, ask that homeless dude who smells like burnt ass, ask the crazy old man with the electric walker, ask your neighbor, your neighbor's children, and your librarian. WHEN THEY KNOW WHAT THE FUCK ATARI IS, I.E. A VIDEOGAME, IT'S NOT FUCKING NICHE.

Or what, you don't want to consider Atari as the "Roots"? You want to delve into something more archaic, like the Spacewar or whatever it is that started Videogaming itself? Well, nobody gave a flying fuck about Euro Football, IE SOCCER when it was just 2 people kicking a ball around for fun, or basketball with a hole-less apple basket for a net, or US football when a guy just ran alone with a pig under his arm for no reason other than it made him feel good. Everything starts niche, but FACT of the matter is since, Atari 2600 it has been mainstream.

4. More accesible my balls. When you can buy Videogames at any medium retail chain, when Sears made a Console themselves, when there are dozens of commercials for games every day on TV, When more game systems are sold than there are households, and when videogames have been in the news, it's not niche.

Get it through your non-existant brain. You are not involved in a niche market. Gaming is not your little secret, where you indulge in something not many people are into. This is not your fetish, and people don't look at you wide eyed when you bring up the subject of gaming. This isn't your little fun hobby which nobody else on the street does, and you are one of the sole contributors to the business. "Oh my god, I am a gamer. I am so cool, this is my own little hobby."

You are just like the stupid fucks who want to keep their favorite little indy band in the indy, because they think it's like only they know about them, and they know and hear something you don't, and it's so cool and hip, and you don't want anybody to ever know about "your" band, because then it won't be so special, it won't be just the little group of you and "your" band.
 
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Stormrider_2977 said:
I play plenty of recent [current gen] stuff actually.
Off and on, but I do.
You missed my point entirely so I’m going to quote this again.

Stormrider_2977 said:
I don't give a shit if someone thinks I'm a dork or whatever for playing Gunstar Heroes in 2006, or whatever it is.
The way this sentence is constructed, it makes it seem like you aren’t entirely sure what year it is. Yes, I know what you meant, but it doesn’t read that way. Also, within the context of your froth-mouthed diatribe, it conjured up a pretty hilarious image of you, too busy living life to the “HARD-CORE” to remember what year it was.

That’s all I have to contribute to this thread. Let the dorkshaming continue...
 

RAINBOW PONY

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zer0hue said:
too busy living life to the “HARD-CORE” to remember what year it was.

Wow, I'm not the only one who thinks he gets off on thinking he's a hardcore gamer, he's special and dirty and "badass". I play games, I do something you don't, I'm niche, I'm Kubrick, I'm Kurosawa, I do stuff nobody else does, and my secret hobby is infinitely cooler than your pathetic mainstream hobby.

I'm off to listen to some shitty music that's indy, but because nobody else heard this tripe, it's cool and raw and hardcore.
 

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Okay guys, this is getting a little too hostile over what people perceive of video gamers... I mean, c'mon now.

Can't wii all just get along?
 
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