The Original MVS Boardsets Rehabilitation Project

Neo Alec

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If you're an MVS collector like me, at some point you may have gotten or considered purchasing a game that comes in a fake looking case that's supposedly not a bootleg. You may have bought a blue cart on ebay from yaton6262 (owner of http://www.arcademvs.com) that came with real chips in it. This was the case for me. I bought Ninja Master's and Super Sidekicks 1 from yaton.

At first I didn't really care, and I examined the boards in the crappy blue cases to verify that they were indeed authentic boards. (Some bootleggers steal the shells off real games to make their bootlegs in order to make them look more believable when selling them. Then someone later comes along with fake cases so they can sell the old games.) Even though I do have a few games with fake labels in my collection (probably Japanese labels that were replaced because their original owners couldn't read them), later I became concerned with the presentability of the collection, and decided the two blue case games were the biggest eyesore.

I bought a KOF 02 bootleg from FUNLAND GAME ROOM back before I really knew very much about MVS bootlegs, and only years later discovered its lack of authenticity. (By the way, FUNLAND GAME ROOM is still an active seller on ebay with the username ju707. This person never shows photos of his carts, and to my knowledge sells ONLY BOOTLEGS. This seller is to my knowledge now the biggest MVS bootleg seller on ebay and SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS.) I recently also got a Neo Geo Cup '98 bootleg from someone else on ebay. Since both have nicer looking black cases (the 02 looks official, and the Neo Geo Cup is at least close), I've decided to use them as donors in my project to rehabilitate my two official games in fake cases.

So I transplanted the following:

rehab-supersidekicks.jpg


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I affixed the same photocopied fake labels to the black shells using rubber cement. (In hindsight, I should have used a different glue. The rubber cement doesn't seem to hold that well.) I think the finished product looks pretty decent. Better than my original Ragnagard, World Heroes Perfect, and Pulstar with spoofed labels at least. Besides, you don't see Super Sidekicks 1 on MVS that often, except for yaton's cheap stock.

I encourage anyone willing and with the resources to do the same if they have any MVS carts in a similar predicament. They're real game PCB's -- they deserve a proper shell. That way we can restore forgotten games a little closer back to their former glory. These games are back home again.
 
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Neo Alec

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billd240 brought it to my attention that he sells replacement MVS labels. I will have to order a bunch of those. Looks like a great option for anyone undertaking a similar project to what I did.
 

El Capitan

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Don't really see the point - you still end up with a cart with a fake label!

Surely anyone really into collecting MVS would want an original full kit?
 

Grinwing

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The seller you refer to is well known (and discussed) on these boards. He has scammed many and sells boots.
 

Ruell

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Grinwing said:
The seller you refer to is well known (and discussed) on these boards. He has scammed many and sells boots.

If you're referring to Yaton, of course he's known to sell boots but I don't agree that he's a scammer. He posts on his site whether they are boots or not. I've heard that he replaces the cart or gives a refund if you're not satisfied. I've had no problems with him except that his carts tend to be dirty as heck.
 

topher

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ju707 dosen't only sell bootlegs I have bought several carts from him and haven't recieved a boot yet. yaton is up front as others have said. as far as the case color goes...well i guess we all gotta be anal about something...
 

Neo Alec

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El Capitan said:
Don't really see the point - you still end up with a cart with a fake label!

Surely anyone really into collecting MVS would want an original full kit?
You're crazy. Good luck getting all the carts complete. Might as well buy AES carts. I already have a few with fake labels. It's not my fault if people who own them change them. Besides, now that I know about billd's replacement labels, I'm going to order enough of them to replace all the fake label carts I have. These carts look WAY better now than they did in those obviously fake blue crap. Those bootlegs didn't deserve those nicer shells.

Grinwing said:
The seller you refer to is well known (and discussed) on these boards. He has scammed many and sells boots.
Really? Never seen any posts about Funland. Probably because I don't read enough. That's good though. I was worried such a big bootleg seller was flying under the radar. Why does he have such a high feedback rating, and why can't ebay suspend him?

Ruell said:
If you're referring to Yaton, of course he's known to sell boots but I don't agree that he's a scammer. He posts on his site whether they are boots or not. I've heard that he replaces the cart or gives a refund if you're not satisfied. I've had no problems with him except that his carts tend to be dirty as heck.
No, ju707 "FUNLAND GAME ROOM." yaton has boots, but when he says something is real, I trust him. I buy a lot of stuff from him, and everything he says is real has been real.

topher said:
ju707 dosen't only sell bootlegs I have bought several carts from him and haven't recieved a boot yet. yaton is up front as others have said. as far as the case color goes...well i guess we all gotta be anal about something...
Are you really checking? Or are you just in denial about it because you don't really know how to check for authenticity? If he sells real ones, he should say so, and take some pics. And try offering something at a reasonable price.
 
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Grinwing

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I was not refering to Yaton. I was in fact refering to ju707. Do a search.
 

Neo Alec

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I just searched. There are a lot of mentions. He should almost have a stickied "scammer" thread or something.
 

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topher said:
ju707 dosen't only sell bootlegs I have bought several carts from him and haven't recieved a boot yet. yaton is up front as others have said. as far as the case color goes...well i guess we all gotta be anal about something...

Same here, I bought Super Dodgeball and Shock Troopers off Julian and they both are legit. When I did ask if they were boots when in transit he kindly said "If they are and you dont want them, send them back and I will refund your money"
 

Neo Gold

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A couple of Billd's MVS labels on there to tidy them up...& you have a few decent MVS carts there...a complete NM kit is mega-bucks....i'll settle for the cart & m/m.
 

Neo Alec

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Xian Xi said:
Same here, I bought Super Dodgeball and Shock Troopers off Julian and they both are legit. When I did ask if they were boots when in transit he kindly said "If they are and you dont want them, send them back and I will refund your money"
I didn't know about bootlegs back when I bought KOF 02 from him. When I noticed I emailed mroe than once and didn't get any response. Probably because it had been at least a year.

Most of the stuff he sells is shady -- screenshots of the wrong game, hacker games. Super Dodge Ball is hard to come by, and at that price, it doesn't seem worth risking.
 

Xian Xi

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Neo Alec said:
I didn't know about bootlegs back when I bought KOF 02 from him. When I noticed I emailed mroe than once and didn't get any response. Probably because it had been at least a year.

Most of the stuff he sells is shady -- screenshots of the wrong game, hacker games. Super Dodge Ball is hard to come by, and at that price, it doesn't seem worth risking.

He doesnt always sell boots though but I think his supply of original carts has probably run dry if alot of people have been exchanging for original ones.
 

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Rubber/Plastic cement should be used for sticking 2 parts of plastic and rubber together, not plastic+paper.

For that use I'd recommend you buy 3M's permanent SPRAY glue. It rules!
 

Neo Alec

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Finished products (thanks to Bill's labels)...

finishedrehabs.jpg


Okay, so they're not quite the same as the originals, if you know what the originals look like, but would you bid on these if you saw them on ebay?
 

Xian Xi

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Neo Alec said:
Finished products (thanks to Bill's labels)...

finishedrehabs.jpg


Okay, so they're not quite the same as the originals, if you know what the originals look like, but would you bid on these if you saw them on ebay?

Was that your intent? You might get flamed for that.

They look better but I hate carts that have a crapload of rubber cement between the cracks.
 

Neo Alec

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Xian Xi said:
Was that your intent? You might get flamed for that.
Heh heh. No, they're not for sale. I'm just asking your opinion on how nice they look. I restored them for my personal collection. I have carts in much worse shape, and I don't care. My Metal Slug 4 has half the label missing so it just reads "Slug 4" in katakana, and I don't care. It was cheap, and it's all original. These are MVS carts, people. Since when does it really matter? Those blue shells just crossed a line for me.

Xian Xi said:
They look better but I hate carts that have a crapload of rubber cement between the cracks.
They don't. The extreme closeup just reveals a lot of the debris I scratched off from the edges of the old label, and the wear and tear on the shells. They don't look any worse alongside all the rest of my collection. In fact, the labels look probably a little too new.
 

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Clean cart shells wouldn't sway me to bid on eBay. If I doubted its authenticity, I'd ask for board pics. Exterior condition wouldn't really be a factor to me.

If anything, the brand new looking labels would make me suspicious. Anyone going to that extent to make them look better must have something to hide. :make_fac:
 

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They don't. The extreme closeup just reveals a lot of the debris I scratched off from the edges of the old label, and the wear and tear on the shells.

When removing old labels, lighter fluid works best. It disolves the old glue so you can peel the labels off without having to scrape and damage the shell.
 

Neo Alec

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Murray said:
Clean cart shells wouldn't sway me to bid on eBay. If I doubted its authenticity, I'd ask for board pics. Exterior condition wouldn't really be a factor to me.

If anything, the brand new looking labels would make me suspicious. Anyone going to that extent to make them look better must have something to hide. :make_fac:
I agree.

billd420 said:
When removing old labels, lighter fluid works best. It disolves the old glue so you can peel the labels off without having to scrape and damage the shell.
I didn't hurt them. If anything, it was whoever put the labels on for the boots I took the shells from. Lighter fluid sounds messy.
 

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Nah just remove the PCB's from the shell and soak it in lighter fluid. The excess will evaporate in little time. Trust, it works like a charm for label removal/ swapping.
 

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Neo Alec said:
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Are you really checking? Or are you just in denial about it because you don't really know how to check for authenticity? If he sells real ones, he should say so, and take some pics. And try offering something at a reasonable price.

because it takes a real genius like you to remove 4 screws and look at 2 pcb's...yeah, maybe you are right, I don't know what the hell i am doing...flash roms...what are those, wires all over the board...probably original...who knows...maybe i should contact neo alec and ask him...all joking aside, there are idiot's here, just don't assume everyone here is...

and as far as his verifying authenticity, when I buy games I really don't care if it is a boot or not in most cases, I just want to play the game that's why I am mvs not aes...but I do check after I get the game just for my personal info...

ju707, well I bought 3 games from him and have yet to recieve a boot...hell, one game bbs2 he had listed as possible bootleg and it was 100% original...seems like a good track record to me...
 

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I'm glad that you got good stuff from him, but for me he's highly suspect because I've been burned by him before, and all of his auctions I see now are either obviously bootlegs or highly suspect.
 

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Just curious.. you wrote about "fake blue case" and stuff... i didn´t know there were fake MVS cases (not the fake yaton shockboxes) ?_? or am i getting something wrong? If there are fake cases, how can someone tell if they´re fake or not?
 

J0e Musashi

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Neo Alec said:
You're crazy. Good luck getting all the carts complete

I buy empty carts with original labels to fix up my bashed up carts. I ended up with every one of my games having original English labels with serials.



Neo Alec said:
If you're an MVS collector like me

Neo Alec said:
Okay, so they're not quite the same as the originals

Neo Alec said:
These are MVS carts, people. Since when does it really matter?
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