Anyone into Warhammer 40k/Fantasy tabletop?

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

Just to check if there's some players lurking here

Late · Nov 17, 2005

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Aye.

Not that I have been actively playing in the last two years. Started out in 95 or something with whfb, 40k came along a year later. Sold all of my figures in 99 cause I was more interested in boozing and toking (stupid teenager) . Rebought me an Eldar army late `02, which I am still painting

And there`s also a Khorne Chaos marine army in the works, but being heavily into conversions, I`ve yet managed to make the army commander and an assault squad

Nowadays if we play, It`s always40k, usually small 1500-2000pts battles using the 2nd edition rules. And for smaller 500-Whatnot pts. scrims we use the more detailed original "Rogue Trader" rules.

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

Strangely enough, despite the fact that the 40k is much more popular here in Brazil than WFB (like all over the world, I think) here in my city, with rare exceptions, everybody only plays WFB.

I know the GW games since 94, I think, but never invested in that hobby. I'm starting now, and I'm planning to build a Witchhunters army. Me and a friend that is a experienced WFB player - but plays some 40k too - are studying the 40k 4th edition rules, and we will start some games to attract new players - I have lots of friends that never played wargames before, but love the 40k miniatures.

Actually, I'm using the Skavens, borrowed from that friend in WFB. And experimenting the WH army with some fake minis, just to test the rules.

JHendrix · Nov 17, 2005

Verythrax said:
Strangely enough, despite the fact that the 40k is much more popular here in Brazil than WFB (like all over the world, I think) here in my city, with rare exceptions, everybody only plays WFB.

I know the GW games since 94, I think, but never invested in that hobby. I'm starting now, and I'm planning to build a Witchhunters army. Me and a friend that is a experienced WFB player - but plays some 40k too - are studying the 40k 4th edition rules, and we will start some games to attract new players - I have lots of friends that never played wargames before, but love the 40k miniatures.

Actually, I'm using the Skavens, borrowed from that friend in WFB. And experimenting the WH army with some fake minis, just to test the rules.

Wow, never would have guessed you'd be into it too.

I started playing 40k Orks bout 6 months ago. I'm on a nice 9 day vacation starting tommorrow afternoon and after I finish programming my database project the rest of the time will be spent relaxing and painting up the rest of my army. I have a few conversions to do after that, but I'll pretty much be done with what I want to own for Orks.

I do know that after XMas I'll be starting a Marines chapter too, just so that I'll have an army that can give me different ways to play the game since Orks are so one sided (I still love em though).

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

JHendrix said:
Wow, never would have guessed you'd be into it too.

I started playing 40k Orks bout 6 months ago. I'm on a nice 9 day vacation starting tommorrow afternoon and after I finish programming my database project the rest of the time will be spent relaxing and painting up the rest of my army. I have a few conversions to do after that, but I'll pretty much be done with what I want to own for Orks.

I do know that after XMas I'll be starting a Marines chapter too, just so that I'll have an army that can give me different ways to play the game since Orks are so one sided (I still love em though).

DoW influence, just like me? :kekeke:

Haha, despite you talk a lot about Dow here, you were the last person that I would imagine that would be interested in tabletop games. I thought that you were one of that guys that are only into eletronic games

I was an avid RPG and anything-related in the early 90s. I only took that long to start WH because I depended on my parents income to maintain it. And after I start to earn a income good enough to sustain my hobbies, I simply had forgot about WH.

DoW was a great way to make me remember

JHendrix · Nov 17, 2005

Verythrax said:
DoW influence, just like me?

Haha, despite you talk a lot about Dow here, you were the last person that I would imagine that would be interested in tabletop games. I thought that you were one of that guys that are only onto eletronic games

Nah, I play a lot of traditional stuff too when I have time.

40k has taken a lot of my time away from video games lately though, mainly because I have so little free time to play stuff anymore between work, school, and family. So when I get my time to play 40k w/ my friends it's become the new competitive thing I do instead of 2D fighters lately.

But the hobby part of doing conversions and painting is really relaxing for me, which I've needed lately. Work and school especially are burning me out.

Only 14 more hours to go before my vacation starts!!! :buttrock:

EDIT: And yeah, DoW is what influenced me to start playing the game. My friends played it, but I didn't get really interested untill after playing DoW. I like the new expansion too, the Ork part of the campaign is really cool.

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

JHendrix said:
But the hobby part of doing conversions and painting is really relaxing for me, which I've needed lately. Work and school especially are burning me out.

Yes, for me too. That's the most important part to me, I think. I need something relaxing to make my mind busy outside the routine. I'm that kind of person that becomes over anxious when I have nothing to think or do.

And videogames are something that I like a lot, but it just don't make me relax at all.

soopafamicom · Nov 17, 2005

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Verythrax said:
Just to check if there's some players lurking here

I never actually used to play 40K itself,I was more into Space Hulk but I still have loads of figs that are half painted or still in pieces ready for their first dab of colour.

On the marines side I have the Blood Angels and for the Chaos I have a few painted up in the colours of the Black Legion.

The original GW factory was just up the road from me and it was nothing just to go up tot he reception and ask for someone from sales who would come down and take the order and we could get our stuff there and then.

I need to find all my stuff and take a few pics of the ones I have painted up,all I have to hand is this pic of a converted Chaos Dreadnaught I did.He's a bit chipped and scuffed in places and needs a good clean and a touch up and some better pics taking(the pic was taken about 3 years ago)

JHendrix · Nov 17, 2005

Verythrax said:
Yes, for me too. That's the most important part to me, I think. I need something relaxing to make my mind busy outside the routine. I'm that kind of person that becomes over anxious when I have nothing to think or do.

And videogames are something that I like a lot, but it just don't make me relax at all.

Want to talk relaxing? I beat the original DoW campaing at about midnight after I came home from working 9 hours and then doing a 3 hour class, both of which were excruciating.

I was definitely enjoying playing Marines at that point. The whole "Cleanse, Purge, Kill" theme was very relaxing at the end of that day.

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

JHendrix said:
EDIT: And yeah, DoW is what influenced me to start playing the game. My friends played it, but I didn't get really interested untill after playing DoW. I like the new expansion too, the Ork part of the campaign is really cool.

Yeah, I'm liking the new campaign a lot, and the new multiplayer maps rocks. But the IG army is way too bad converted compared to the original armies. The IG's "strength by numbers" factor are badly represented in the quantity/variety of troops, and they take long time to be able to build the vehicles and the elite/heavy infantry.

JHendrix · Nov 17, 2005

Verythrax said:
Yeah, I'm liking the new campaign a lot, and the new multiplayer maps rocks. But the IG army is way too bad converted compared to the original armies. The IG's "strength by numbers" factor are badly represented in the quantity/variety of troops, and they take long time to be able to build the vehicles and the elite/heavy infantry.

Hey at least their late and mid game is much better than the Orks. The Boyz got the shaft in the mid to late game units.

I'm not much of an IG fan, but their super-heavy tanks are awesome in the game. The Baneblade especially. Supposedly to survive the early game with IG you're supposed to rush to sentinals untill you can get up to pumping out Leman Russ's.

I wouldn't know though, I didn't start the "Order" part of the campaign yet, and every time I play a skirmish it's with Orks.

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

JHendrix said:
I was definitely enjoying playing Marines at that point. The whole "Cleanse, Purge, Kill" theme was very relaxing at the end of that day.

Hahaha, I'm into doing that kind of thing from time to time, with Civ3 or CTP, Rise of Nations and DoW. Nothing better that crush entire nations to vent anger. The biggest problem is to work next day after only 3-4 hours of sleep... I always regret it afterwards :annoyed:

And sincerely, one the best things in 40k is that Crusade/Inquisition spirit, latin language and the Gothic archtecture.

/me <3 the Imperium. That's why I want a WH army. The concept of Sisters Repentia, Arco-flagelants and Penitent Engines are just like made specially for me.

JHendrix · Nov 17, 2005

Verythrax said:
Hahaha, I'm into doing that kind of thing from time to time, with Civ3 or CTP, Rise of Nations and DoW. Nothing better that crush entire nations to vent anger. The biggest problem is to work next day after only 3-4 hours of sleep... I always regret it afterwards

And sincerely, one the best things in 40k is that Crusade/Inquisition spirit, latin language and the Gothic archtecture.

/me <3 the Imperium. That's why I what a WH army. The concept of Sisters Repentia, Arco-flagelants and Penitent Engines are just like made specially for me.

HAH! My best friend plays a WH army. He was playing it with all Sisters of Battle too untill I showed him that he could take Grey Knights too. Oh and Penitent Engines are disgusting. It's almost a gauranteed turn 2 assault with a walker, very nasty stuff!

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

soopafamicom said:
I never actually used to play 40K itself,I was more into Space Hulk but I still have loads of figs that are half painted or still in pieces ready for their first dab of colour.

On the marines side I have the Blood Angels and for the Chaos I have a few painted up in the colours of the Black Legion.

The original GW factory was just up the road from me and it was nothing just to go up tot he reception and ask for someone from sales who would come down and take the order and we could get our stuff there and then.

I need to find all my stuff and take a few pics of the ones I have painted up,all I have to hand is this pic of a converted Chaos Dreadnaught I did.He's a bit chipped and scuffed in places and needs a good clean and a touch up and some better pics taking(the pic was taken about 3 years ago)

Haha, cool. I wish that I could get GW minis that easy

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

JHendrix said:
HAH! My best friend plays a WH army. He was playing it with all Sisters of Battle too untill I showed him that he could take Grey Knights too. Oh and Penitent Engines are disgusting. It's almost a gauranteed turn 2 assault with a walker, very nasty stuff!

Holy torture machines rulez :cool:

2D6 CC attacks per turn rulez too.

My main problem that is my friend plays with Eldar, so he can easily shoot down my infantry before I can get close enough to use bolters. I'm trying more vehicle-embarked troops in the next game to overcome this.

I played a bit with the DaemonHunters at the Army Builder. It looks really deadly. I just not that confident because the small number of troops that you put on the table.

RAINBOW PONY · Nov 17, 2005

HUGE WARHAMMER FAN HERE!

I used to love reading the Fantasy Battles, until they changed the format to the new style, where in 40K Battles instead of individual Circles, they made one ugly Block for a whole squad.

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

DARK ANDY said:
HUGE WARHAMMER FAN HERE!

I used to love reading the Fantasy Battles, until they changed the format to the new style, where in 40K Battles instead of individual Circles, they made one ugly Block for a whole squad.

I understand it. The unit blocks are somewhat limiting, but that pre-napoleonic style fits well with the fantasy setting, IMO, creating very different strategic considerations. And it's a very welcome change from the 40k gaming style.

JHendrix · Nov 17, 2005

Verythrax said:
Holy torture machines rulez
2D6 CC attacks per turn rulez too.

My main problem that is my friend plays with Eldar, so he can easily shoot down my infantry before I can get close enough to use bolters. I'm trying more vehicle-embarked troops in the next game to overcome this.

I played a bit with the DaemonHunters at the Army Builder. It looks really deadly. I just not that confident because the small number of troops that you put on the table.

Vehicles! They're death traps in 4th edition. Well for SoB against Eldar it might work out alright if you move 12", disembark 2", and then rapid fire at another 12". It's risky, but would be interesting for sure.

Playing eldar eh? Well kit out on Heavy Bolters to start nailing the guardians. S5 AP4 should do a pretty quick job on em. You could also play a bit more defensively , not moving your firing line and taking your bolter shots at 24" instead of 2 at 12".

The real problem is taking out the Wraithlords. If he's fielding a lot of them then metltaguns would probably do the trick. Ok, a LOT of Melta Guns.

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

JHendrix said:
Vehicles! They're death traps in 4th edition. Well for SoB against Eldar it might work out alright if you move 12", disembark 2", and then rapid fire at another 12". It's risky, but would be interesting for sure.

Playing eldar eh? Well kit out on Heavy Bolters to start nailing the guardians. S5 AP4 should do a pretty quick job on em. You could also play a bit more defensively , not moving your firing line and taking your bolter shots at 24" instead of 2 at 12".

The real problem is taking out the Wraithlords. If he's fielding a lot of them then metltaguns would probably do the trick. Ok, a LOT of Melta Guns.

The main problem are 2 elite units which I don't remember the names, that can shoot me at 36" and 48" (almost across the entire table, depending the LoS).

His Wraithlord is the terror of my Penitent Engine. I need to put it distant from it, and get some simple infantary to keep him busy long enough to make my arco-flagenlants and PE close - Witchhunters assault are really a nasty thing.

I'm relying on a Exorcist to make some damage to that long-range asses :mad:

JHendrix · Nov 17, 2005

Verythrax said:
The main problem are 2 elite units which I don't remember the names, that can shoot me at 36" and 48" (almost across the entire table, depending the LoS).

His Wraithlord is the terror of my Penitent Engine. I need to put it distant from it, and get some simple infantary to keep him busy long enough to make my arco-flagenlants and PE close - Witchhunters assault are really a nasty thing.

I'm relying on a Exorcist to make some damage to that long-range asses

Exorcists are awesome anti armor, just watch out for the bright lances.

If he's really outranging you, you could try and use DH allies like I showed my friend. If you want to talk about some NASTY supporting assault units for the WH army, the Grey Knights are it.

Plus if you take a Grey Knight squad as a Fast Attack option you can deep strike them to those lines of his. Of course if he's hitting you with AP3 weapons, that might not be such a good idea. But you could spend a ton of points and use a squad of Grey Knight Terminators. Deep Strike those puppies and blow the crap out of him.

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

Just to make this thread a bit more interesting

http://paulocamossa.sites.uol.com.br/Warhammer-SP-121105.html

A small 6-players tournament held in São Paulo, at the apartment of a WH forum member.

Verythrax · Nov 17, 2005

JHendrix said:
Exorcists are awesome anti armor, just watch out for the bright lances.

If he's really outranging you, you could try and use DH allies like I showed my friend. If you want to talk about some NASTY supporting assault units for the WH army, the Grey Knights are it.

Plus if you take a Grey Knight squad as a Fast Attack option you can deep strike them to those lines of his. Of course if he's hitting you with AP3 weapons, that might not be such a good idea. But you could spend a ton of points and use a squad of Grey Knight Terminators. Deep Strike those puppies and blow the crap out of him.

Grey Knights deep-striking sounds awesome. Well, my opponent have lots of low AP attacks, like a unit that hits with AP1 at a roll to hit of 6 :help:

But I'll consider the DH as allies with much love and care

Late · Nov 17, 2005

<3 Eldar

Hands down the best looking army.

You guys are using the later ed. rules that which I`m not familliar with, but from what I`ve gathered, the main problem with Eldar is their fragility. The Shuriken catapult is the best basic weapon in the game, and with its sustained fire, even a marine squad has to think twice before stepping out of cover.

If you want cheese for the Eldar, go for 5 or so Wraithguard and a Warp Spider squad to boot. Not so cheesy but devastating nonetheless are Dark Reapers (2 squads of 3 or so, the other one kitted with antiplant missiles and the other with plasma, you can pull off some mayhem with this combo)

The Eldar`s good points are their firepower and mobility, the problem being on how to manuever them safely intoa position to shoot or charge, but once you do, paydirt

Oh and Hendrix, you got a point there, the hobby aspect being the bigger one in wh. Me and my friends realized this when everyone was tinkering away with terrain and figures instead of playing.

Soopafamicom, nice oldschool chaos dreadnought, the skaven bannerpole is a good idea. Since gw opened a store in Helsinki, I`ve had a mind to get some of those oop figures, like the original eldar farseer, much nicer than the current ones.

Rassilon · Nov 17, 2005

Yep!
Though i havent played in over 2 years (all my stuff is in storage in the US right now).
Started with 40k when rogue trader came out, in what, the early 90s?
I played space orks from the start, but also started collecting blood angels chaos, and tyranids.
I definately stick with the 2nd ed. rules, or rogue trader (or some mix of the two)... i think the 3rd edition rules are really shitty. Its kind of infuriating to play, and it feels like they just keep dumbing it down to make it so younger kids can play. fsck that noise. GW also really sapped all the character out of the orks, which rather ticks me off.
Theyre just about grubbing for money nowadays.

For fantasy i play chaos and orcs/goblins.

PS: eldar are cheezy bastards. or, as the orks call them, panzies.

gmw · Nov 17, 2005

Used to play Rogue Trader about 15 years ago, but wasn't really able to get back into it later. I liked the older GW atmosphere a lot better - plus, back in the day, there were all the GW-orientated grindcore/death metal bands. D-Rok, Bolt Thrower, etc. Loved that era.

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