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Hope to see a return of Barry.
We all need this.
He is so fucking cool, unlike Wesker who makes Japanese fangirls wet.
Hope to see a return of Barry.
Easily best Mercs mode in the series.
I liked the new characters (except Jake) and I love that they are finally utilizing underused characters like Sherry. Hope to see a return of Billy, Rebecca, Barry, Claire, Hunk, Nicolai and many of the other old characters. I would love to see what positions they all took in the world after going through we'd they'd gone through. I mean they have to be doing something interesting.
They need to return to the thing that made them special to begin with.
You mean the late 90s? I'd argue what made them special was not only the games themselves, but also in combination of the era they were released. It's natural that later games would pull stuff from RE, and RE would continue to pull from other games (let's not pretend that Alone in the Dark didn't happen). Even if they went back and made a game like the first Resident Evil, there would be people who would roll their eyes and go "great, running past zombies, collecting medallions, and fighting plants that come out of the floor. I've never done that before."
People will always bitch about this series. It's a popular franchise, after all. Give me Resident Evil 4 - 6 over 1 - 3 any day.
But anyway, I'm optimistic for future games. RE Revelations was such an awesome game. It had a fair mix of tension and action that I think would satisfy both the old fans and the dudebro fans...
They just need to follow that direction for RE7 and they will be golden.
I laugh at the notion that RE: Revelations isn't a 'full RE game' because it was on a portable.
Nicolai is dead. That's confirmed in RE 3. The canonical ending, the one that Capcom is going with for the story, has him getting dragged up into a ceiling vent and being mauled by Nemesis. And anyway, he's not that great of a character so why bother? I'd play Carlos again, though. Or even Mikhail, even though that's impossible.
You can say you like it and you can say the series borrows from other games all the time (I don't agree entirely with that), but I don't really care about that. It just doesn't work for me, and it didn't work for a lot of people for well established reasons that have been explained ad nauseum on the journalist sites as well as in countless internet forums.
Fans bitch about everything. Zelda fans bitch about Zelda and Street Fighter fans bitch about Street Fighter. You can't make these people happy.
Just remember that when most people were bitching about RE 5's supposed flaws, I was defending it and saying I liked it. I know how to adjust to the changing tone of the series as the market's tastes evolve.
But 6 just doesn't work on all of the levels that have classically engaged the fans. And you can't just tell people to 'accept this because it's good.' Not all of the criticisms levied against 6 are unfair. A good number of them are spot on.
You just criticized RE6 for being "too uncharted" like, and then say you don't agree entirely with my comment that it borrows from other games (and then say you don't care about that). You're being silly. Nobody is saying "accept this because it's good." You're the one acting like an authority figure in trying to tell everybody "everything wrong with Resident Evil 6." Don't act like the only people who exist are the people who don't like it. There are plenty of people who do. In fact, I'd argue that all the people bitching about it have wildly different views on how it should be "fixed." Good luck with trying to please people with your fantasy RE game tailored to your tastes and how you think it should be done. Chances are, the people who bitched about RE6 would bitch about your game, too.
I mean, by all accounts, you admit that the gameplay is there and it's fun. Why would you let the fact that they didn't use your fan-fiction overshadow that?
lmao...
How the hell did you trick your wife into marrying you?
If I saw you playing a portable I would divorce you on the spot.
Speaking of people sounding silly...
Oh don't get all sensitive. So you hide in your bathroom playing portables. Big deal.
Yeah, because otherwise my wife would find out and divorce me.
So please don't tell her.
I explained all this but you were so eager to discredit my views that you just glossed over the most important point.
Resident Evil is not primarily about gameplay and never has been.
it's firstly about an immersive emotional experience. The gameplay has NEVER, EvER been king in an RE game.
It never HAD to have good gameplay in order to be considered a worthy game.
So when I say the gameplay is good, that doesn't mean it's many, MANY crimes should be summarily excused or dismissed. The game engine is fine. Everything else is wrong with it.
The Uncharted sequences and vehicle combat sequences suck. They're just terrible, out of place and give the game a serious case of identity crisis that stunt its narrative flow and completely destroy any sense of tension or atmosphere.
And it's not just that RE 6 is a bad RE game. It's a bad game because even as a narrative experience, it continually hamstrings itself at every opportunity.
You can call my ideas 'fan fiction' in an attempt to discredit their validity, and by association my viewpoint, all you want. I won't go on the attack and respond in kind. But you are wrong to say that just because the game isn't what I wanted storywise, that I can't accept anything else.
I liked Resident Evil 5's story just fine, and it was NOTHING like what I would have done.
So I proved to you, right there, that the game doesn't have to have the story I want for me to enjoy it.
Same goes for Revelations, which is a better game than 6 and also had a story unlike anything like what I was expecting.
So I dismiss, entirely, your notion that the game has to be exactly what I want it to be in order to enjoy it or identify it as a quality product.
Resident Evil has been about game play since 4, what on earth are you talking about? And you chalk that up as your most important point? So, because you feel RE has never been about game play, you want to argue that it no longer matters when it actually does have it, and when it actually is king? When you talk about RE, you're acting like you're describing losing your virginity. "Immersive and emotional experience" lmao.
And I called your ideas fan-fiction because that's what they are. There's nothing valid about them other than that's what you think should happen. I'm not saying you can't accept a storyline that you don't want. What I am saying is that you already didn't accept a storyline you didn't want, and wrote up paragraphs of fan-fiction that you think is better. Good job?
And people hated Resident Evil 5 when it came out, in droves, but you liked it. There was probably dozen other RE purists giving bulletpoint lists of why it was horrible, not RE, and had loads of fan-fiction that they thought would've made it better. There will always be people like that. You just happen to be one of the ones for 6.
It's not about gameplay and never has been. Without a suitably creepy and intense atmosphere, if it was all action beats and parkour sequences, people would have been casing on this series when 4 came out for the same reasons they case on 5 and 6.
You disregard other peoples' feelings on the subject because you don't share it, but by and large people like RE because of the atmosphere and tension. It's the same reason they gravitate to Silent Hill or any other survival horror franchise.
This is maybe the weakest argument you've ever made at this site. The fact that you're willfully ignoring the truth to prop up your side of this is really not like you at all.
So what, man? So I typed up some paragraphs of what I think would make for a better story. Why do you have a problem with this?
It's because your original argument was that 'I wouldn't be happy unless the story was exactly what I wanted it to be.'
You tried to discredit my entire argument by saying I was writing 'fan fiction.' The fact that you have to resort to attacks on my nerdiness for the series (and that's really what's at the root of your straw man associations) is also a sign of a weak argument on your part.
Sounds to me like YOU'RE the one acting like the authority figure here, observing how their criticisms are rooted in fan sensibilities and lacking completely in obbjectivity.
I like 5. It is still not a great game. It has flaws.
Just like 6. The only difference is that I don't feel 5's flaws are crippling. 6's are, in my opinion.
I think it's odd that you feel you have to champion 6 to the internet when you clearly aren't one of those 'fanboys.'
I still like you and all, but I don't agree with you here.
I mean, at least I didn't say your wife should divorce you or comment on your need to play RE while shitting or whatever else was said.
You have a very backhanded way of talking about people shitting, while claiming that you did not.