As I stated before I'm for laws to help keep guns out of the hands of criminals... But we need to do it the right way! I will never support the baning information no matter what the reasoning behind it. Wrong will always be wrong, no matter how you dress it up in public safety clothing. I would rather take my chances with terrorists and armed criminals then lose my rights/freedom.
3D Printed Firearm Components
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I called it.
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3D Printed Liberator Pistol Gets Upgrades or how "Shit just got real."
Mmmm can we say rifled barrel? YES PLEASE.
I'll take one with a rifled barrel in .45acp. I only need it to fire one shot.
Mmmm can we say rifled barrel? YES PLEASE.
I'll take one with a rifled barrel in .45acp. I only need it to fire one shot.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1eqbcn/ladies_and_gentlemen_the_3d_printable_charon_its/
I hope this isn't just an elaborate mock up.
That said, I imagine the buffer tube area will still need some kind of reinforcing, maybe a metal sleeve you place down inside? Either way that shit is BOSS. Really neat design.
The future really is here, and the flow of information can not, and will not, be stopped.
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Liberator Pistol fires 9 shots in a row
ho, ho, ho
Rifled Barrel too. The kicker: The gun cost $25 worth of plastic.
The fact that this is firing .380ACP is pretty impressive.
ho, ho, ho
Rifled Barrel too. The kicker: The gun cost $25 worth of plastic.
The fact that this is firing .380ACP is pretty impressive.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1eqbcn/ladies_and_gentlemen_the_3d_printable_charon_its/
I hope this isn't just an elaborate mock up.
That said, I imagine the buffer tube area will still need some kind of reinforcing, maybe a metal sleeve you place down inside? Either way that shit is BOSS. Really neat design.
The future really is here, and the flow of information can not, and will not, be stopped.
This shit is real:
NEW LINK: http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8498148/
Guys on reddit printing it out as we speak.
If the DL goes down hit me up and I'll get the files to anyone who wants them. I have all of Defense Distributed files as well except for there AK magazine.
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Pretty impressive to see what people can do with affordable technology and information exchange regardless of your opinion of it. Just imagine this kind of progression applied to other things, stuff that we all use shit like media storage cases, utensils, modular furniture, replacment parts for shit you'd normally just throw away once it broke.
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I wonder if they're going to need a change in the law in the UK to specifically cover a printed guns. Suppose it depends on what the current law defines as a firearm. No doubt they'll ignore it for now but then it'll all kick off in a big way the first time someone actually gets shot by one.
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Seriously, this technology is going to have far wider implications than just guns.
I doubt it. I don't see why a printed gun would be any different legally than an otherwise traditionally manufactured gun.
Is it legal to manufacture a gun in the UK? I'm guessing not.
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No, your average joe can't manufacture a gun in the UK, but I'm just thinking back to when they first banned handgun in the UK and everyone turned them in and went out and bought .44 Magnums instead as it was one of the few handguns you were still legally allowed to own - the reason, they fucked up the legislation and the term 'handgun' was based on barrel length which in UK law made the .44 Magnum a rifle, which was still legal.
It's all in the definition, and I just wonder if printed guns will expose any loopholes they need to close up.
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Of course I guess all this is kind of irrelevant as bullets will still be illegal...
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Having done some research you can get some pretty decent weapons in the UK, especially if you live outside of England, Scotland, and Wales. Even then there are some weapons available that would leave me feeling sufficiently armed. You can get traditional handguns in Northern Ireland still. It's (almost) anything goes on the Channel Islands.
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Don't use the above link, use this one: http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8498148/
Will edit the post above.
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This one is interesting: An Australian police force decided to test one themselves and it had a catastrophic misfire:
http://www.techworld.com.au/article/462774/nsw_police_issues_warning_3d_printed_guns/
http://www.techworld.com.au/article/462774/nsw_police_issues_warning_3d_printed_guns/
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I don't think we need to worry about everyone having untraceable firearms yet, but it will eventually be a real concern as 3D printer technology continues to advance. Right now I'm happy knowing anyone trying to fire one of these is just as likely to injure themselves as their target.
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What's your point?
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Throw out some bait, see what I could reel in. No bites (yet.)
You have a valid point, of course in your above comment, but I seriously doubt even in the future we'll see anything other than single shot pistols, rifles, and shotguns printed from the home. Any repeating weapons and any weapons that fires high pressure cartridges are going to need some kind of metal reinforcement, period. Without metal of some sort a semi-automatic pistol is simply not feasible.
There was a great "fear" in the 80s and early 90s that untraceable weapons would be made and proliferate American streets with the advent of the polymer pistols such as the Glock. Well that fear was unfounded, and absurd, given that the core operating component is made out of metal.
Right now the liberator pistol is only good for a proof of concept and to ruffle some feathers. I guess if you were ballsy you could load it up, and sneak up on someone who actually had a gun on them, shoot them, and take their real gun. Oh wait...that's what the Liberator pistol is for in the first place.
That said, I could build an AK type rifle at home for less money than it would take to get a decent 3D printer. And I have done that. Mine has a serial number but my friends' AKs don't. I have an AR-15 lower receiver without a serial number that I "manufactured" using a drill press. I took some shop classes in high school and that's the extent of my technical knowledge.
I guess my point is that the scary future where anyone can easily make weapons in their home is already here. It's just this time the geeks are bringing us the weapons and not the tradesmen and craftsmen.
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Anyone want to go to jail for about 10 years?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCH...xpedient-Homemade-Firearms-Vol-II-PA-Luty.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/Expedient-Homemade-Firearms-9mm-Submachine/dp/0873649834
It's already out there. These weapons are LIGHT YEARS ahead of anything a 3D printer, printing plastic, can make.
Since guns are so heavily regulated in Australia the criminals are buying weapons like these from black market manufacturers. Awesome.
Here ya go guys, this MACHINE GUN, is even easier to make than the previous two:
http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/BSP_Schematics.pdf
Just an FYI but having these plans on your computer and then going to the store to buy the parts to build these, even if you don't assemble the gun, will land you in Federal Prison. It's called a thought crime....errr....Constructive Intent.
Stay safe.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCH...xpedient-Homemade-Firearms-Vol-II-PA-Luty.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/Expedient-Homemade-Firearms-9mm-Submachine/dp/0873649834
It's already out there. These weapons are LIGHT YEARS ahead of anything a 3D printer, printing plastic, can make.
Since guns are so heavily regulated in Australia the criminals are buying weapons like these from black market manufacturers. Awesome.
Here ya go guys, this MACHINE GUN, is even easier to make than the previous two:
http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/BSP_Schematics.pdf
Just an FYI but having these plans on your computer and then going to the store to buy the parts to build these, even if you don't assemble the gun, will land you in Federal Prison. It's called a thought crime....errr....Constructive Intent.
Stay safe.
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Printed AR-15 lower receiver firing the 50 Beowulf cartridge.
Not to be confused with .50 BMG, of course. Still a pretty large cartridge.
I'd be interested to see if anyone comes out with an 3D printed AR-10 lower, whether an actual Armalite AR-10 Pattern or the other pattern (DPMS?)