Pokemon X & Y

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Pokemon is definitely a series of games that I'd call a guilty pleasure. On the surface it's cute and cuddly, with its "that shit's for kids" deceptive sheen. But if you love rpg games...you know better. Am I right, Monster Rancher fans?

Anywho, the new 3DS Pokemon will arrive in October. I haven't played a game in the series since Ruby/Sapphire back in 03'. So I think I'm ready to jump back in. Is anybody else ready to catch'em all?


 
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I probably will, still some time left till october though.

Btw: what was the point of black/white 2?
 
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Pre-ordered Y the first day I could, always have fun putting the hours into these games.
 
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Hopefully they'll have a special edition 3DS XL for this or the next Link to the Past and I'll finally be on board with the 3DS. I also passed on Black and White 2. I loved the stupid little Pokewalker that you could get bonus items and power ups and they didn't bother to use that. I'm still holding out hope they'll make a full fledged MMO out of this. I'm pretty much done with MMO's but if they could work together a Pokemon one I wouldn't leave. Brings me back to playing it in high school catching Mewtwo with my very last normal Pokeball I had in my inventory. Then I lost all my data a few months later...what a pain in the ass.
 
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There is a special edition 3DS XL that looks like Pikachu. One for the Link to the Past will get me to upgrade to an XL in a second.
 
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That's what I'm holding out on. I really want to get an XL, but if they have a special edition Link to the Past one, DONE. Hopefully they'll have a bundle at Toys R Us like they seem to do every Christmas. It's like every year they do a special bundle with a game and an exclusive color you can only get at Toys R Us. It's almost certain if LTTP comes out during the holidays they'll have something like that. If not I'm going to get one this Christmas and stock up on all the game's I've missed out on.
 
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Can someone tell me why the pokemon games are so good? The kiddie look and feel has always kept me away. I'm just curious what the draw is versus other JRPG's? Also why are there always multiple carts? Are they different stories or is your character different?

I'm not trolling. Just wondering if i've missed the bus and actually need to give the series a try.
 
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lions3 said:
Can someone tell me why the pokemon games are so good? The kiddie look and feel has always kept me away. I'm just curious what the draw is versus other JRPG's? Also why are there always multiple carts? Are they different stories or is your character different?

I'm not trolling. Just wondering if i've missed the bus and actually need to give the series a try.
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Pokemon is about assembling a team of odd creatures to pass level-check bosses. Its method of entertaining the player is fairly straight forward. I think creating a team of personally chosen, raised, and leveled weird animals is the bulk of the charm the series holds. Other players like to do what the tagline always suggested, "to catch'em all."

Then, for the super fans, there's also the the competitve side. Hunting down pokemon with the optimum IVs for breeding. EV training for max stat growth. Both of these distractions can eat up hundreds of hours if you allow it.

As for the constant dual edition releases. It's a sneaky way to milk more money from the super fans. Game Freak puts only one of two sexes (the number of species treated this way varies) of a particular pokemon on one edition and the opposite on the other, i.e. - you'll only find female pikachu on edition X, and male pikachu on edition Y.

Although I haven't played a Pokemon game in a decade I doubt the story has changed. You're a nobody, with aspirations of being the best pokemon trainer ever.
 
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Problem with Pokémon is that it burns you out. After having spent many hours on Red&Blue and then Gold&Silver, Sapphire could only catch my attention for a little bit and it was downhill ever since. Haven't even bought the last ones what gets to you (more so than with other sequels) is a combination of little variation from game to game and the many hours you have to spent in order to complete it/get a new rare Pokémon.
 
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There are definitely some weak links in the series. I still think Gen II are the best games. I was disappointed by Pearl and Diamond; the pokemon designs were a little silly. Black and White were great, the designs of the monsters were good and I really got a fresh feeling from them.
 
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Magician said:
Pokemon is about assembling a team of odd creatures to pass level-check bosses. Its method of entertaining the player is fairly straight forward. I think creating a team of personally chosen, raised, and leveled weird animals is the bulk of the charm the series holds. Other players like to do what the tagline always suggested, "to catch'em all."

Then, for the super fans, there's also the the competitve side. Hunting down pokemon with the optimum IVs for breeding. EV training for max stat growth. Both of these distractions can eat up hundreds of hours if you allow it.

As for the constant dual edition releases. It's a sneaky way to milk more money from the super fans. Game Freak puts only one of two sexes (the number of species treated this way varies) of a particular pokemon on one edition and the opposite on the other, i.e. - you'll only find female pikachu on edition X, and male pikachu on edition Y.

Although I haven't played a Pokemon game in a decade I doubt the story has changed. You're a nobody, with aspirations of being the best pokemon trainer ever.
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thanks for the details, Magician. I'm thinking of picking up pokemon black/white (DS) and giving it a try.

Also it looks like someone today decided to post a brief pokemon history http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/feature_a_brief_history_of_pokemon_part_one
 
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lions3 said:
thanks for the details, Magician. I'm thinking of picking up pokemon black/white (DS) and giving it a try.

Also it looks like someone today decided to post a brief pokemon history http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/feature_a_brief_history_of_pokemon_part_one
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Hey that was a good somewhat quick summary of the early years! I was too old to care about pokemon when it came out originally, although I did watch the dubbed anime lol

Anyways I've recently acquired like 80% of all the pokemon games released (missing a few GBA versions and original RED) and was wondering if I should start from the beginning, or should I just get into the DS black and white/B&W2?
 
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My biggest problem is that it's a social game. If you don't have other folks to play it with the game just becomes less fun. The first series came out when I was in high school and thankfully the rest of the nerds I hung out with got into the game and we'd play it at lunch or on the weekends. Then those people move away and there's less and less people to play it with. I don't wanna be the 30 year old guy hanging around GameStop looking for random kids to trade Pokemans with. It's great to go through the main part of the game beating all the Gym Leaders, then the Elite 4 (5 if you include the final boss) then you can grind it out with the rest of the end game stuff. It becomes a totally different game when you play it with friends, in person.
 
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You can do battles and trading over wi-fi now so you don't need to be near anyone to get those benefits. However on the first gen DS ones it seemed like 90% of the people I played against were using hacked pokemon.
 
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funkified said:
Hey that was a good somewhat quick summary of the early years! I was too old to care about pokemon when it came out originally, although I did watch the dubbed anime lol

Anyways I've recently acquired like 80% of all the pokemon games released (missing a few GBA versions and original RED) and was wondering if I should start from the beginning, or should I just get into the DS black and white/B&W2?
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Hmmm. I don't think it really matters. If you play them chronologically it might be easier to finish them. But if you play anything Gen III or later, then go back to the Gameboy, it might be a bit of a challenge getting into it. I had the same experience with Fallout: I played 3 and New Vegas, I went back to 1 and found it really hard to get into.
 
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Keep in mind this not an attack on Pokemon fans, just a man who "outgrew" a tired and recycled IP that Nintendo should just let die.

I was once a fan of Pokemon, I picked up Pokemon Red in 1998 after graduating High School, I didn't know anything about the series.
I Just saw it was a RPG where you capture and train monsters, cartoonish design who care the damn game is in 8-bits, no one plays a 8-bit Game Boy game for the visuals.

Later I got silver, then I got bored with the series. When I notice the Kid show Ignored the series completely until Diamond a Pearl. They were okay.

When Pokemon Black and White came out, I also ignores the games until way after white and black 2 came forth, I decided to give a used copy a shot.
Holy Crap I hated Pokemon Black and White, I lost interest before even finishing the 3rd gym I traded the game off 2 weeks after than.

So what I think of Pokemon X and Y? The visuals are nice but in this day in age its a "dollar short and a day late".

Pokemon is dead for me, I am leaving it behind the way the way most people stop watching Sesame Street. Its sad really not just I am tired of the series, I start mentally questioning other adults interest in the series the way most people think an adult is strange for watching Sesame Street or Barney the Dinosaur. Unless you have kids or you are a kid you have no reason for it. I can't even get nostalgic for it like other old games.
 
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^ what about just playing games for fun?
 
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Dark Sakul said:
Keep in mind this not an attack on Pokemon fans, just a man who "outgrew" a tired and recycled IP that Nintendo should just let die.

I was once a fan of Pokemon, I picked up Pokemon Red in 1998 after graduating High School, I didn't know anything about the series.
I Just saw it was a RPG where you capture and train monsters, cartoonish design who care the damn game is in 8-bits, no one plays a 8-bit Game Boy game for the visuals.

Later I got silver, then I got bored with the series. When I notice the Kid show Ignored the series completely until Diamond a Pearl. They were okay.

When Pokemon Black and White came out, I also ignores the games until way after white and black 2 came forth, I decided to give a used copy a shot.
Holy Crap I hated Pokemon Black and White, I lost interest before even finishing the 3rd gym I traded the game off 2 weeks after than.

So what I think of Pokemon X and Y? The visuals are nice but in this day in age its a "dollar short and a day late".

Pokemon is dead for me, I am leaving it behind the way the way most people stop watching Sesame Street. Its sad really not just I am tired of the series, I start mentally questioning other adults interest in the series the way most people think an adult is strange for watching Sesame Street or Barney the Dinosaur. Unless you have kids or you are a kid you have no reason for it. I can't even get nostalgic for it like other old games.
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Sucks to be you. Nice blog though.
 
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Pope Sazae the First said:
^ what about just playing games for fun?
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Issue is when the game stops being fun and starts to feel like a chore what do you do? its not like MMO Grinding either where you feel you are getting something done.
More and more Pokemon lost that magic with me.
I set out and accomplished everything I wanted to do in pokemon Diamond and Pearl with the exception of finding a god damn shinny.
I completed the pokedex to that point of 493 Pokemon, all evolutions, forms and such.

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Sucks to be you. Nice blog though.
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Well yeah, its one of those things that ran its course with me. I am even selling off the remainder of all my Pokemon stuff.
I gave my friends that live locally the right of first refusal, and one of my friends shown interest in the entire collection.

I think Moon Jump said it best, its a social game, take the social aspect out and what you get, a tired old RPG series with a brat protagonist and a stupid rodent.
At the Age of 32, and most the people I know at my age do not play, friends that are a few years younger still do but the series lost its appeal to me.
 
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I might play the new ones coming out. I've recently powered up my DS lite for heart gold. Mostly because it was a childhood classic and was when shit got serious. Since then however I've been very dissapointed. As to what X & Y will be like, meh who knows.
 
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Black/White 2 were really good games. But then I must be doing something wrong since I am 35 and enjoy playing a game that is fun.
 
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Pope Sazae the First said:
Black/White 2 were really good games. But then I must be doing something wrong since I am 35 and enjoy playing a game that is fun.
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Dude screw what I say or anyone else say, if you still enjoy the series do what you want to do. You like Pokemon, play Pokemon, you like MLP watch MLP, if you like dancing in the rain, just don't get sick. ect.
Do what makes you happy.
 
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