Neo Geo X Gold System details and price announced!

RabbitTroop

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Random question: How easy would it be to change game cards while the system is in the dock? I don't plan to use this as a handheld at all and will probably leave the device always docked with the batteries out. Will it be a pain in the future when/if new games are released to swap games? Will it require removing the system from the dock to do so? Too bad the dock itself doesn't have a game port.
 

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Random question: How easy would it be to change game cards while the system is in the dock? I don't plan to use this as a handheld at all and will probably leave the device always docked with the batteries out. Will it be a pain in the future when/if new games are released to swap games? Will it require removing the system from the dock to do so? Too bad the dock itself doesn't have a game port.

I've been under the impression (perhaps mistakenly) that even with game cards the games have to be "installed" onto the system ROM before they can be played.
Making the game swap process, of course, much slower than simply switching out game cards, whether the dock had a card slot in it or not.

I could be wrong about that though...
and it doesn't sound like this fellow has any game cards to test that feature anyway. I enjoyed his write up, but like many there are a million small little details I'm eager to know.
 

Dragon76

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lol

How about some more details about this 'perfect' emulation.

How about the audio quality? I didn't see a word mentioned about that.

Whats the picture quality like via HDMI? What res does it output in?

What about the widescreen lcd built into the system? Do the games display in 4x3? 16x9? Can you toggle between them and whats the general quality like of the LCD?


Once again, vague.

There may be more to come? Not to grateful for someone taking the time to offer a review are we? Where's your review?
 

Dragon76

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Rough draft of the review article I'm working on, I'll get around to photos later in the week assuming I can get freetime (and a camera that doesn't suck ballsacks ie my stupid ass iPhone)

Oh man, I've been waiting for this thing to show up on my doorstep for awhile, and it's finally here. For those that maybe aren't familiar with the Neo-Geo, it was a system that was released roughly 20 years ago as a home console designed to bring the arcade experience home. Everything about this system was... big, expensive, and just downright awesome. The system back then ran almost $700USD with the games costing almost $300 a piece which were bigger than VHS tapes.. they're definitely big. These days, some of the best games for the Neo-Geo fetch thousands of dollars which is unfortunate as the average gamer isn't going to dish that out.. but lucky for us the Neo-Geo X brings most of that experience home at a price most gamers can afford! For $199.99USD plus tax, you can bring home the amazing arcade experience you never got to experience.

So when you buy the Neo-Geo X Gold you should expect it to come with the following: Neo-Geo X handheld system, a charging dock/TV output mount shaped to replicate the Neo-Geo AES home console, a functioning replica of the Playstation 2 AES replica stick (yes, a replica of a replica) and [what I did not receive for review] a copy of Ninja Masters for the Neo-Geo X. All these items together make for a pretty nice bundle, but it should be noted that the system is marketed specifically as a handheld first, with the other peripherals being bonuses of the Gold Edition. The handheld itself is built fairly well.. featuring a 4.5in (estimated) LCD screen (someone else asked about a screen protector seen in other photos: the system ships with a plastic film protecting it.), the classic four-button face layout to the right of the screen, an 8-direction joystick that resembles that of the Neo Geo Pocket Color to the left of the screen, and menu/start buttons directly below the face buttons and joystick. Along the sides of the console you have other controls for the system, including a toggle for brightness and volume, shoulder buttons (which can be used to change the picture size of the game to fit the classic box shape or take up the entire screen), jacks to dock into the AES charger/TV dock.. thingy.. , headphone jacks (to me, the lack of this would be a dealbreaker for a handheld), and (what appears to me to be an SD) card slot that the game cards would go into. The back has that gripping rubber texture to make it easier to hold onto as well, and features the SNK logo etched into it. The Neo-Geo X is a bit larger than some smartphones, so it isn't quite pocket friendly.

<strong>THE HANDHELD SYSTEM</strong>

Right off the bat, I noticed the system takes a bit longer than the 3DS or the PSP to boot up, but it's not too bad. (I attribute this to the handheld running some form of encryption). The games load in roughly the same speed (I timed 30 seconds on Metal Slug) but once the game gets going, it plays flawlessly compared to the original. One of the things I was worried about was the joystick that the system sports. Moving the stick around, you hear clicking sounds. To some, you may think this is garbage, to others however, this is a sign of excellent craftsmanship. The joystick has microswitches to recreate the feel of the NGPC and makes for precise input on fighting games. The stick responds perfectly once you hop into a game, but it feels as if the menu has a bit of delay input which can be a pain.. but who buys a console because of the dashboard?! The ABCD face buttons have a solid feeling to them as well, just enough softness to feel like you've hit the button down, but not rough enough to the point it feels like you're hitting plastic on plastic like the NES.

<strong>THE ARCADE STICK</strong>

This is the part myself and other Neo-Geo owners were afraid of.. the build quality of the AES replica stick. Tommo advertised the stick to be using the same parts as the original, so I wanted to put it to the test. I went over to a friend's place to still has his AES to do side by side comparisons for the review. As far as the internal components like the stick and buttons, I cannot tell the difference between the two. The stick and buttons both have the same clicking and solid structured feeling to them and control the same. I will say though it's not quite a 1:1 replica.. the Gold stick is slightly smaller (not much) and feels slightly lighter than the AES counterpart. Now before you say they didn't use the same parts, it's not the parts themselves causing the lightness, it's the plastic shell and cable that the controller has. The cable is less dense (and sports a USB port, so no using this in an AES or vice versa) and the plastic shell was most likely made thinner to help fit the innards in (I HIGHLY doubt the original mould is still around which would cause problems when re-creating the shell)

<strong>THE DOCKING STATION</strong>

This is the piece of the bundle I have the most complaints about... the docking station. The AES cloned docking station opens up VIA a hookswitch on the front, and you can dock the handheld in here to charge. While it's charging, you can use the Neo-Geo X on your TV and with the joystick play it just like an AES. The dock features modern updates, such as an HDMI port, USB ports (so once again, no real AES sticks), and the reset button acts as a dashboard button, sending the console back to that atrocious menu. Now the dock itself feels cheap.. oh so cheap. The replica AES charging dock of TV playing is quite smaller in contrast to a real Neo-Geo AES and the cartridge slot is 100% solid and nothing can be put in it. I think it would've been better to be able to dock the handheld in the cartridge port but whatever. The hookswitch is also poorly made and I have to hold the lid down and push the latch back just to get it to lock shut. The dock also feels freakishly light so I'm almost certain is just a passthrough connector. I think I'll just be leaving it in there and using it as a home console.

<strong>GAMEPLAY</strong>

This was the other major concern, how well does the system handle the emulation. We went back and forth between the two systems, testing Metal Slug, King of the Monsters, Magician Lord, and Last Resort to see how it handles various genres and different sized games. Thank. God. the emulation was perfect.. I saw no graphical issues and similar slowdowns in the same spots so it feels like a flawless interpretation. The firmware still pisses me off to no end because it's clunky and overly simple but as long as playing games on it works as well as it does, I can ignore that. If you're reading this Tommo, release a firmware update that doesn't feel like a Windows 95 file navigation and selector!

<strong>The Verdict</strong>

The Neo-Geo X is slated for street date two weeks from now and will cost you $200USD. If you don't want all the extras (controllers, stupid charging dock/TV output box etc.. which why wouldn't you?) you can obtain just the handheld for $130 in February. For some people, it may be overpriced considering it is after all a machine running 20 year old games.. but by god if it's not an amazing piece of hardware to own as a Neo-Geo fan or a classic gamer. Considering that the system also has 20 built in games (one of which if you were to buy the original of will set you back almost $3,000) it's definitely a bargain for anyone who wants to play these classics the way they were meant to be played, or to even show your kids the games you grew up with! Combined with the possibility of future games being released VIA game card addons, the system has alot of potential to succeed depending on the price of each game. This isn't a system for everyone, but is highly recommended for the classic gamer and arcade goers alike and should not be missed!

Thanks for the review brother! Fully enjoyed it and truly appreciate you taking the time to write it. Looking forward to the pics!!
 

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Well that's fantastic news, and pretty much what I expected all around! Oh how the UI design hurts me though.. I'm still deciding wether to get the bundle or wait till february for the stand alone, either way though, I would hack mine if only to improve the UI and add the option to install the game cards permanently or something.

I can honestly say that it is now an official dream of mine that TOMMO uses the funds from the sales to put a Neo-Geo X "Slim" into production for next year with a 4x3 Neo native resolution screen and.. yeah that's it.. srsly tommo, make it happen. Oh and consult a UI designer so we can get a sexier menu on this thing, that part went way too 90s.
 

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The main thing I want to know that wasn't answered in the review is if we have access to any system options and if there is blood in samurai showdown or metal slug. Is there any access to dip switches or way to play in mvs mode? Is there anything in the menu besides a file selector?
 

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The main thing I want to know that wasn't answered in the review is if we have access to any system options and if there is blood in samurai showdown or metal slug. Is there any access to dip switches or way to play in mvs mode? Is there anything in the menu besides a file selector?

thought this was already answered (?), and the answer is nope.
 

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Seta, have you had enough time with the machine to test battery life and recharge time? Is the lithium ion battery removable?
 

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It's stuck in AES mode unless the Konami code switches it over or something. The dashboard interface is literally scroll the icons and pick the game.

edit: the Konami code does not switch it to MVS mode. :lolz:

Thanks. From what was seen before it seemed to not have any special options but I just wanted to be sure. Have you tried to save anything like with baseball stars 2? I wanted to be sure if the faq meant it didn't support physical aes memory cards or if saving at all doesn't work.

It sounds like the hardware and emulation are good but the firmware is very lacking in options and design.
 

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Thanks Seta for taking the time and delivering a review/impressions to our board. Looks like just as you got the unit in the mail, you did as much testing as you could to bring some news to us... so it's understandable that it's not a vastly, comprehensive, answer all "white paper" on the gadget, haha.

Cut the guy some slack and give him more time. I'm sure all your questions will eventually be answered.

Thanks again sir!

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Jonmkl

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The main thing I want to know that wasn't answered in the review is if we have access to any system options and if there is blood in samurai showdown or metal slug. Is there any access to dip switches or way to play in mvs mode? Is there anything in the menu besides a file selector?

From what we've seen the answer to 3 and 4 is a mega nope, but there is a part in one of the hands on videos where they go into the options of SSII and change it to japanese mode, at which point all the blood was present and no longer green.

That said, I think we would ALL love to throw some unibios in this bad boy.
 

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Quick question if you don't mind SetaSouji??
Is the power supply external and what is the input voltage labeled as?
 

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Thanks Seta for taking the time and delivering a review/impressions to our board. Looks like just as you got the unit in the mail, you did as much testing as you could to bring some news to us... so it's understandable that it's not a vastly, comprehensive, answer all "white paper" on the gadget, haha.

Cut the guy some slack and give him more time. I'm sure all your questions will eventually be answered.

Thanks again sir!

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Seta,

When you get a chance, if you have an SD card laying around try throwing a Neo rom on it to see if it works. Probably not, but it's worth a shot.
 

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As for how it handles on a high definition TV the system can either take up the whole 16:9 or do 4:3, which can be toggled with the touch of the L buttons.

So when it's connected to a widescreen HDTV through HDMI, you can still switch the picture between 4:3 and stretched to 16:9. That sets me at ease, for a minute there it was looking like it would be stretched and unchangeable when output via HDMI.
 

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Thanks Seta! I can't wait to read more after you've had your hands on it for a few days and really get a feel for it.
 
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