Bibliophile (Waseem Daker) Murder Case Update

NeoTurfMasta · Sep 17, 2012

aria said:
I assume you refer to blessme, which posted this:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showt...liophile....&p=2495162&highlight=#post2495162

Problem is it implies she was posting from a proxy (the IP is from Turkey) and the woman referred to in that story doesn't strike me as particularly sophisticated when it comes to tech.

Well, she does seem pretty religious, no? If that is the same person you linked to on facebook. And she "forgave" him on the stand. Not to say you have to be religious to forgive someone, but you know...

Tacitus · Sep 17, 2012

Adderall said:
yeah, seems fishy.

Although the body behind his dad's store makes this whole thing extra creepy.

Link to post, pls.

WTF? this story gets weirder everyday.

Adderall · Sep 17, 2012

VanillaThunder said:
Link to post, pls.

WTF? this story gets weirder everyday.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?181484-More-desperate-Bill-DeLeo-bullshit-(billd420)&p=2496389&viewfull=1#post2496389

And

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?181484-More-desperate-Bill-DeLeo-bullshit-(billd420)&p=2496429&viewfull=1#post2496429

aria · Sep 17, 2012

Adderall said:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?181484-More-desperate-Bill-DeLeo-bullshit-(billd420)&p=2496389&viewfull=1#post2496389

And

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?181484-More-desperate-Bill-DeLeo-bullshit-(billd420)&p=2496429&viewfull=1#post2496429

Okay, a quick Google search shows that Angela Matos' husband was the focus of that murder investigation:

http://www.northfulton.com/Articles...amily_of_Angela_Matos_wants_day_in_court.html

A joint Alpharetta-Roswell police investigation quickly centered on Angela`s estranged husband, Carlos Matos. During that investigation, police uncovered information that Matos, a sales manager at a local car dealership, was also into selling cocaine. Alpharetta police arrested Matos May 23, 1996. for drug trafficking and for allegedly murdering Angela.

With a videotape showing Matos selling 2.2 pounds of cocaine to undercover agents, he decided to plead guilty to drug trafficking and is serving a six-year term in prison. But Matos was never indicted for the murder of his wife.

[...]

Some police investigators close the case say they share the family`s frustrations, but it is a case that has only circumstantial evidence to tie Matos to the slaying of his wife. But privately, they say that evidence is compelling.

aria · Sep 17, 2012

Here's an even stronger article that points the Angela Matos murder towards her husband, Carlos:

http://www.northfulton.com/Articles...13_Police_say_evidence_points_to_husband.html

But after Angela`s disappearance, Matos was "uncooperative" with police in their investigation, according to Roswell Police detective Barry Evans at the time. The Matos`s had moved in with Angela`s mother, Blonnie Summerour, in Roswell while building their new home. It was then the couple had become estranged a few weeks before Angela was abducted and Matos had moved out.

Friends told how Angela had been afraid of her husband and that he had threatened her. She said he was stalking her.

"Shortly before she died, Angela told me she thought she would be the next Nicole Simpson. I didn`t take her seriously at the time because she had never confided in me that much," Cobern said. "She said he`s a different person behind closed doors."

Investigators found he had been arrested by Cherokee County police for threatening a neighbor with gun after Angela had run to the neighbor`s house after a domestic fight. Investigators found yet another side of Matos, one that involved living in the fast lane taking out strippers and dealing drugs.

Matos was pleaded guilty to trafficking in cocaine after undercover police videotaped him selling 2.2 pounds (1 kilo) of cocaine to officers for $20,000. He is now serving a six-year sentence.

When Angela`s body was discovered exactly three months after she disappeared, police put together evidence found at the scene where she disappeared, where the body was found and Matos Honda Passport that investigators say links him to the crime.

[. . .]

A former girlfriend told police Matos had discussed ways to kill his wife a few months before Angela died.

That last line, uh, yeah...

Adderall · Sep 17, 2012

Shitty odds that he just happened to dump her behind another suspected murderer's family business......

Tacitus · Sep 17, 2012

Was there a letter of provenance with the body?

Tacitus · Sep 17, 2012

aria said:
Here's an even stronger article that points the Angela Matos murder towards her husband, Carlos:

http://www.northfulton.com/Articles...13_Police_say_evidence_points_to_husband.html

That last line, uh, yeah...

I think I speak for everyone when I ask "What color was the carpet?"

evil wasabi · Sep 17, 2012

seems to me that a few facts can be linked up.

Even though Nicole Simpson had Ronald Goldman's dna in and around her body at the time of death, Ronald Goldman was never a suspect in the trial. The actual murderer was never brought to justice. Angie Matos thought she would be the next Nicole Simpson. She was then killed. Her killer was also never brought to justice. Whoever killed Nicole Brown Simpson, killed Angie Matos as well, and probably killed Karmen Smith.

aria · Sep 17, 2012

As awkward as the Spencer-Blatz cross-examination must've been, does anyone know if Karmen Smith's son, Nickolas, is actually going to take the stand?

Now that would be intense.

"Who stabbed you?"

"You did."

Poonman · Sep 17, 2012

aria said:
As awkward as the Spencer-Blatz cross-examination must've been, does anyone know if Karmen Smith's son, Nickolas, is actually going to take the stand?

Now that would be intense.

"Who stabbed you?"

"You did."

LMAO.

"No further questions, your honor"

Geddon_jt · Sep 17, 2012

aria said:
As awkward as the Spencer-Blatz cross-examination must've been, does anyone know if Karmen Smith's son, Nickolas, is actually going to take the stand?

Now that would be intense.

"Who stabbed you?"

"You did."

It becomes even more awkward when the defendant doing the cross examination keeps referring to himself as "the defendant" in the third person, which is what I think Mr. Daker has been doing thus far.

I will never forget a trial I watched once, it was a aggravated battery or something like that, and the pro se defendant kept asking the victim questions like, "So according to you, the defendant took the pliers and slammed them into your face?" To which the victim turned to the jury and replied, "No sir, YOU took the pliers from the table, slammed them into my face" I think identity of the defendant was more of an issue in that case... but it certainly makes an impact on the jury.

Kind of like Waseem in his opening statement saying "I don't think the evidence will show that I did it," or whatever it is he said. For Pete's sake, if you are representing yourself, you better look every juror in the eye and tell them that the state won't prove their case because YOU DIDN'T DO IT! What a wishy washy way to open your case. LOL

Anyhow, my feeling about this whole thing at this stage is this, this is real life people, this is a serious thing with serious allegations, I think its only right personally to stay out of any further commentary, there is at least one victim here and a very serious trial that deserves respect from all of us, regardless of the outcome.

PS - for everyone betting on sentencing should he be convicted, my guess is that there are probably minimum mandatory sentences in the books that apply to some of the crimes he is charged with. Perhaps felony murder in Georgia carries a mandatory life sentence. First degree murder in Florida does, but I'm not sure about Georgia law. Remember also that he is charged with multiple crimes, all of which will carry different penalties, which the court might impose consecutively or concurrently. (PROTIP - you have to look at Georgia law in 1995 since if I recall that's when the crimes were committed)

aria · Sep 17, 2012

Geddon_jt said:
PS - for everyone betting on sentencing should he be convicted, my guess is that there are probably minimum mandatory sentences in the books that apply to some of the crimes he is charged with. Perhaps felony murder in Georgia carries a mandatory life sentence. First degree murder in Florida does, but I'm not sure about Georgia law. Remember also that he is charged with multiple crimes, all of which will carry different penalties, which the court might impose consecutively or concurrently.

You heard the man, place your bets accordingly!

Tacitus · Sep 17, 2012

Geddon_jt said:
It becomes even more awkward when the defendant doing the cross examination keeps referring to himself as "the defendant" in the third person, which is what I think Mr. Daker has been doing thus far.

I will never forget a trial I watched once, it was a aggravated battery or something like that, and the pro se defendant kept asking the victim questions like, "So according to you, the defendant took the pliers and slammed them into your face?" To which the victim turned to the jury and replied, "No sir, YOU took the pliers from the table, slammed them into my face" I think identity of the defendant was more of an issue in that case... but it certainly makes an impact on the jury.

Kind of like Waseem in his opening statement saying "I don't think the evidence will show that I did it," or whatever it is he said. For Pete's sake, if you are representing yourself, you better look every juror in the eye and tell them that the state won't prove their case because YOU DIDN'T DO IT! What a wishy washy way to open your case. LOL

Anyhow, my feeling about this whole thing at this stage is this, this is real life people, this is a serious thing with serious allegations, I think its only right personally to stay out of any further commentary, there is at least one victim here and a very serious trial that deserves respect from all of us, regardless of the outcome.

PS - for everyone betting on sentencing should he be convicted, my guess is that there are probably minimum mandatory sentences in the books that apply to some of the crimes he is charged with. Perhaps felony murder in Georgia carries a mandatory life sentence. First degree murder in Florida does, but I'm not sure about Georgia law. Remember also that he is charged with multiple crimes, all of which will carry different penalties, which the court might impose consecutively or concurrently. (PROTIP - you have to look at Georgia law in 1995 since if I recall that's when the crimes were committed)

...so does this mean you're in for "life imprisonment"? Consecutively or Concurrent?

evil wasabi · Sep 17, 2012

I would only put the kid (back) on the stand for cross examination and have his testimony impeached, assuming he actually testifies. I don't see the point in direct examination, as far as Waseem goes.

This boy has been prepped by the police for this day like an alter boy being prepped for a hot dog eating competition. In his mind, the killer looks exactly the same as the guy in the photos that Officer 2.0HighschoolGPA showed him.

aria · Sep 17, 2012

Spoon said:
aria said:

As awkward as the Spencer-Blatz cross-examination must've been, does anyone know if Karmen Smith's son, Nickolas, is actually going to take the stand?

Now that would be intense.

"Who stabbed you?"

"You did."

Click to expand...

LMAO.

"No further questions, your honor"

cdamm · Sep 17, 2012

VanillaThunder said:
www.stabbygameimporters.com

I wish I didn't lol hard at that. I'm in a damn waiting room.

Geddon_jt · Sep 17, 2012

VanillaThunder said:
...so does this mean you're in for "life imprisonment"? Consecutively or Concurrent?

Here's how it would go down in Florida.

Let's say you are charged with 2 crimes: 1st degree murder and aggravated battery. 1st degree murder is a capital felony, meaning the sentence is mandatory life without the possibility of parole. Aggravated battery is a 2nd degree felony punishable by up to 30 years prison.

Assuming you were convicted of both, the Judge must sentence you to life on the 1st degree murder charge. Let's say the judge sentenced you to 30 years on the aggravated battery, the Court can order that that sentence be served concurrently (i.e. at the same time) as the life sentence is being served. Or, the court could impose a consecutive sentence, which means your time would begin running after serving your life sentence. Which under this example obviously is a humorous result, but something that happens all the time.

Geddon_jt · Sep 17, 2012

Xander Crews said:
I would only put the kid (back) on the stand for cross examination and have his testimony impeached, assuming he actually testifies. I don't see the point in direct examination, as far as Waseem goes.

This boy has been prepped by the police for this day like an alter boy being prepped for a hot dog eating competition. In his mind, the killer looks exactly the same as the guy in the photos that Officer 2.0HighschoolGPA showed him.

I'm sure the boy will be part of the state's case, Waseem will have the right to cross examine him immediately after the conclusion of the state's direct questioning. In Florida, there are very strict rules on the number of times a child victim can be interviewed prior to trial to prevent something like you're describing from happening. Those rules apply to prosecutors, police officers, child protective services workers, and generally any governmental agency, so you have to be very careful about when and how you talk to the child victim. It would be interesting to know whether similar rules exist in Georgia.

norton9478 · Sep 17, 2012

aria said:
Yeah, I can't seem to find anything. What other gaming websites did Biblio frequent?

No it was here that Lottie (or someone claiming to be her) showed up. I can't remember if she got her own account, or posted through Bill D. Leo.

NeoSneth said:
It's funny how the truth is not so clear even when a nutty person represents himself.

This 48 minute video is worth watching every second. It also details why you should never believe a word a cop says. 48 minutes sounds long, but it completely changed the way I interact with law enforcement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

It is also why you want black people on your jury, because they are more liekly to have gone through such bullshit. And they are very skeptical of police testimony. White people tend to trust the cops.

Tacitus · Sep 17, 2012

norton9478 said:
No it was here that Lottie (or someone claiming to be her) showed up. I can't remember if she got her own account, or posted through Bill D. Leo.

It is also why you want black people on your jury, because they are more liekly to have gone through such bullshit. And they are very skeptical of police testimony. White people tend to trust the cops.

Electric Grave · Sep 17, 2012

All I know is that Waseem is a good guy, I met him and he was a gentleman. I don't know what else to say other than I wish him a fair deal and for whatever is worth I still believe he's innocent.

You don't like it and wanna flame, go ahead, here's a big mountain of FUCK YOU in advance.

Carry on, vultures.

ki_atsushi · Sep 17, 2012

ElectricGrave said:
All I know is that Waseem is a good guy, I met him and he was a gentleman. I don't know what else to say other than I wish him a fair deal and for whatever is worth I still believe he's innocent.

You don't like it and wanna flame, go ahead, here's a big mountain of FUCK YOU in advance.

Carry on, vultures.

Weren't you the one also blindly defending TonK because in your short experience "he's a good guy"? Oh yeah, that's right... you're the biggest idiot on the forums. :oh_no:

Just because you hung out with them a few times and nothing went wrong, doesn't mean there's no evil in their hearts. I still can't believe you don't get that.

Tacitus · Sep 17, 2012

I'm tempted to change bibs' name to reflect his two favorite hobbies:

Stabibliophile

ki_atsushi · Sep 17, 2012

VanillaThunder said:
I'm tempted to change bibs' name to reflect his two favorite hobbies:

Stabibliophile

I think a shortening to something like stabliophile has a nice ring to it.

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