Power Spikes II Dog Tag and Euro Homecarts Discovered!

chrisr

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now you guys wonder why we never discuss personal business in these forums. The idea of privacy in business does not seem to compute here.

I say more bannings are in order.
 
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now you guys wonder why we never discuss personal business in these forums. The idea of privacy in business does not seem to compute here.

I say more bannings are in order.

Kinda like your idea of integrity. I know it's an amazing concept.
 

Takumaji

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I still fail to see what all this crap from 2004 has to do with the PS2 carts.

A lot of questions regarding the PS2 cart sets have been left unanswered. You can flame away all you want, in the end it's not about doing dirty laundry or riding out hidden agendas but a bunch of carts of still unknown status TonK brought here to sell for tons of money.

And yes, I still believe in TonK's honesty, but no, I'm not going to accept this as proof of authenticity. Bring the hard facts to the table or pack up yer crap and leave, that's what I say.
 
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Can you ban a few members for me? I pay in spine cards.


:kekeke:

If they spam with cusswords and insults the forums like those members did in the french forums , yes. and no need of spine cards.

and BTW I read all of that emails: they have been heavy modified/altered of course
 
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Listen you all: another post of spam like that or others in this thread and I move the post to the warrom. I take full responsiblity for moving the post if I have to.
 

Takumaji

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Let's all take a chill pill now.

That is, I'll leave the chill pills to you and will open a nice cold beer - Germany just scored their second goal in the Euro match Netherlands - Germany!!!! :D
 

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Listen you all: another post of spam like that or others in this thread and I move the post to the warrom. I take full responsiblity for moving the post if I have to.

Well, at least you're not using the global mod account this time.


TO THE WAR ROOM!
 

@Alaska-

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Let's all take a chill pill now.

That is, I'll leave the chill pills to you and will open a nice cold beer - Germany just scored their second goal in the Euro match Netherlands - Germany!!!! :D

ok but the Netherlands is still in the locker room P____P
it's unfair :drool:

still two awesome goals by Gomez :multi_co:
 

Takumaji

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ok but the Netherlands is still in the locker room P____P
it's unfair :drool:

still two awesome goals by Gomez :multi_co:

Heh, my cable TV must be lagging!

Second half has just started, I'm going to leave you guys to it but please don't steal cookies or summat. Thanks.
 

massimiliano

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I'm in an hotel right now and the only thing I can see is Catwoman movie...I remember why I hated it back in the time..I think it is even worst than Spawn the movie.
 

Tacitus

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If they spam with cusswords and insults the forums like those members did in the french forums , yes. and no need of spine cards.

and BTW I read all of that emails: they have been heavy modified/altered of course

 

aria

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Here's something that's bugging me a bit:

From TonK's explanation of how he met the source in the Aero Fighters 3 (US) thread:
I received an email around 4 months ago from an individual who was interested in learning more about the current Neo-Geo scene. His first email was brief and to the point. I responded. And after a few more exchanges, we began chatting on the phone. I learned that this individual was a former employee of SNK.♥

That's when things started to get interesting. He made some outlandish claims that he owned a bunch of (higher end) Neo-Geo games and helped design some chips on the original MVS. He also stated that he worked for another well known game company. I played the part and let him talk. I'll admit, I didn't believe him at first.♥

About a month later, during one of our lengthy conversations one night, we started discussing prototypes and the Master List. He was looking over the Master List as we were talking, telling me about how some of the games were developed and who worked on them. Really interesting stuff.♥

He asked me why Aero Fighters 3 wasn't on the list. I told him that it was, but it was a Japanese only release and that Aero Fighters 3 didn't exist in U.S. form. He said he swore he owned a few of them. I said that was impossible, that it was rumored to exist a long time ago and that Adol stated he had once seen a copy in a French video game store, but no pictures ever came about. I did say that NGF had a version with a home brew insert and CD manual. He said that wasn't the one he had and he specifically remembered ordering a box of them during his time at SNK.

So, I kinda left it alone and we continued to talk games and drama, lol.♥

So the guy who contacted TonK wasn't familiar with the Neo scene and wanted to know more. Heaven knows there's plenty of complexity to it, so TonK obliged (I think a lot of folks would). Then AF3 pops up. Again, this story was a bit fantastic but not entirely unbelievable, as we've seen plenty of intelligent people have come to different conclusions.

But take that comment about him not being familiar with this scene and wanting to stay out of teh drama and compare it to how he responded in a message he sent through TonK (it's a long message, readable in full here and here); but here are the parts that indicate he's followed the scene for quite some time:

People have been asking why I don’t reveal myself to the community and it’s due to the drama.
Yet you contacted TonK to learn about the scene? How did you pick TonK? He is prominent and certainly holds himself out there, but that's one of those things that makes me think of what I'd do if I suddenly found that I owned a rare NES game like Stadium Events and wanted to unload it. Who would I contact? This point isn't particularly huge, but it's part of what makes me cautious.

Shawn has money, Dion "had" a direct connection to SNK and plays off that to his advantage, Ray has a good deal of resources. Now to be fair
we’ve not seen Ray in a long time or any of his pawns but we do see Dion’s pawn all the time.
This is the line that threw up a few red flags --especially the line about not seeing Ray in a while.

So why are we seeing them here now when some of these people have not bothered to make a post in ages? Because something new has been found, something that gets us talking and by the neo gods they had nothing to do with it. How could this be they ask themselves? One sitting on his imaginary throne, the other flexing with empty proto carts, and if Ray is here reading this I’m sure he is having a smoke thinking of how to get in on it. But sadly the fact is when you can’t have something the most childish of us will turn and think "If I can' thave it no one can" and it turns to hate. It has been said before and I will say it again, if Shawn had made the post then the other side would be all over it, if NGF made the post then all of us would be on it (it’s one of the only times everyone is on the same side in this game).
Read this and tell me if it sounds like a n00b to the scene. I have no doubt that TonK told him interesting stories about all the drama that's gone on, but this doesn't read like it's from a person reciting a history told to him. I can't be certain, of course, but it seems odd.

If you go and read the rest of his post and you get a similar feel. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's just his writing which isn't particularly good or well written, but this is suspicious.

Think about it: He goes above and beyond the average hobbyist when he points out the flaws of his copies of NGF’s and Ray Young’s conversions (it sounds like he has copies of them himself), something the average neo hobbyist wouldn’t have experience with, yet he says we should believe him when he said he had no idea that several of these games he's putting forward were never released. :spock:
 

lantus360

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yep..the "source" seems to be someone who has been on this forum for years rather than some ex-SNK guy who had no idea about this place.
 

Shawn

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On the unsecure server situation i purchased a unfixed ssv special from the neostore and asked for the metal slug 4 art bundle with it and Shawn altered the descrip for my order, yet just typing it in google search, samurai shodown special unfixed with ms4 and my order still comes up public on google search

That’s not really a fair comparison. You’re mentioning a past listing that was once public on the NeoStore at one point, and so it certainly should have been indexed to show in Google search. The confidential page that TonK posted was never listed on NeoStore.com or on Neo-Geo.com, as in the URL was never linked from another page of either website. It was simply a page that was created, hosted in what I thought was a private and unknown location of the Neo-Geo.com server, and emailed to Simone for only his reference and mine.

This was not an issue in the past because previous Neo-Geo.com directories were secure on past servers. However this latest server that Neo-Geo.com was moved to was obviously not properly secured. I’m paying for a dedicated managed server and so I’m shocked that this new server was setup in such an insecure manner. I’m just now discovering this security flaw, but I don’t appreciate the manner that this was brought to my attention. Just because the server was not properly secured does not make it OK to exploit what was obviously sensitive information with what was clearly malicious intent.

I would have been grateful to have been notified about this in private. Those involved knew this, but they chose to set off this bomb in the house of NeoGeo without any regards to the collateral damage. Though this attack was only intended for one particular forum mod, the collateral damage negatively affects me because I would never intentionally reveal the NeoStore’s private sales history. That’s a breach of privacy that is against the NeoStore’s policy. This page was moved to a secure location of the NeoStore's secure server, just as everything else pertaining to sensitive NeoStore order history would exist.

I understand that that TonK regrets his actions, but I wouldn't put it past him to repeat this inappropriate behavior in the future. Everyone agrees that TonK tends to take things a little too personal and he isn’t known for having the most stable personality, so he will likely never be fully domesticated. Apparently that’s something that most of us are willing to accept, including myself, and so TonK’s suspension will likely be lifted in the near future.

Speaking of wild and undomesticated, I was walking the dog a few nights ago and a raccoon came across our path. My dog barked at it and in retaliation, the raccoon stood its ground and hissed. Aware of the risk of rabid animals, we circled the raccoon cautiously, it was too interesting not to. It seemed to be trying to burrow into a hole in the ground, but it was too large to fit so it remained on top of the hole. Over the course of 15 minutes or so, I gradually walked closer to the coon until I was literally sitting a foot from it. It no longer considered me the threat and kept its watch primarily on my dog. I beckoned to the coon to come to me, and within a minute it was sitting on my lap! I gave it a bear hug and it looked me in the eyes. Its nose was wet, its tongue was like sandpaper, and its claws were like needles, but I endured because of its irresistible cuteness. It smelled neither bad nor good, for it had no smell that I could notice. After 5 to 10 minutes of lying on my leg, it decided to start climbing me like a tree. Having a 20 lbs raccoon climb you is not comfortable so I lay down on the ground to get it off. It climbed off and scurried to the nearest tree while being chased by my dog. It climbed up the tree and that’s the last I saw of it. True story!

Although raccoons can be fun to have around, I hear that they can be destructive pets and will always remain instinctually wild. TonK is fun to have around, but like a coon, he too can get moody and become destructive.

raccoon_5916.jpg
 

Colorado Rockie

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Here's my worthless opinion:

Both PS2 and AF3 are conversions. Perfect conversions.

If it was left at that then so be it. Bot this "source" is most likely (or already has) going to make perfect conversions of legit released games like Metal Slug, Double Dragon, Blazing Star, etc.
 

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Speaking of wild and undomesticated, I was walking the dog a few nights ago and a raccoon came across our path. My dog barked at it and in retaliation, the raccoon stood its ground and hissed. Aware of the risk of rabid animals, we circled the raccoon cautiously, it was too interesting not to. It seemed to be trying to burrow into a hole in the ground, but it was too large to fit so it remained on top of the hole. Over the course of 15 minutes or so, I gradually walked closer to the coon until I was literally sitting a foot from it. It no longer considered me the threat and kept its watch primarily on my dog. I beckoned to the coon to come to me, and within a minute it was sitting on my lap! I gave it a bear hug and it looked me in the eyes. Its nose was wet, its tongue was like sandpaper, and its claws were like needles, but I endured because of its irresistible cuteness. It smelled neither bad nor good, for it had no smell that I could notice. After 5 to 10 minutes of lying on my leg, it decided to start climbing me like a tree. Having a 20 lbs raccoon climb you is not comfortable so I lay down on the ground to get it off. It climbed off and scurried to the nearest tree while being chased by my dog. It climbed up the tree and that’s the last I saw of it. True story!

Next time, bring peanut butter and oven mitts on your walk.

Close the deal....
 

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Speaking of wild and undomesticated, I was walking the dog a few nights ago and a raccoon came across our path. My dog barked at it and in retaliation, the raccoon stood its ground and hissed. Aware of the risk of rabid animals, we circled the raccoon cautiously, it was too interesting not to. It seemed to be trying to burrow into a hole in the ground, but it was too large to fit so it remained on top of the hole. Over the course of 15 minutes or so, I gradually walked closer to the coon until I was literally sitting a foot from it. It no longer considered me the threat and kept its watch primarily on my dog. I beckoned to the coon to come to me, and within a minute it was sitting on my lap! I gave it a bear hug and it looked me in the eyes. Its nose was wet, its tongue was like sandpaper, and its claws were like needles, but I endured because of its irresistible cuteness. It smelled neither bad nor good, for it had no smell that I could notice. After 5 to 10 minutes of lying on my leg, it decided to start climbing me like a tree. Having a 20 lbs raccoon climb you is not comfortable so I lay down on the ground to get it off. It climbed off and scurried to the nearest tree while being chased by my dog. It climbed up the tree and that’s the last I saw of it. True story!
raccoon_5916.jpg

I am certain there is a way to use that story as a metaphor to the current drama. I think we will have to wait and see how all of this unfolds and see which of the players "runs up the tree," so to speak, to know for sure. Fascinating!
 

16-bit

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yep..the "source" seems to be someone who has been on this forum for years rather than some ex-SNK guy who had no idea about this place.

I agree.

I might be a bit naive, but I would think SNK employees from the rare game era 1994-1996, if asked, would be forthcoming on release information given that there have been disputed titles selling for $30,000+ USD.
 

massimiliano

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Here's my worthless opinion:

Both PS2 and AF3 are conversions. Perfect conversions.

If it was left at that then so be it. Bot this "source" is most likely (or already has) going to make perfect conversions of legit released games like Metal Slug, Double Dragon, Blazing Star, etc.

In AF3 and PS2 the problem is that the artwork is not comparable to anything, so far from a layout consistency check, there is no way we can prove it is fake or real, or call it "perfect" (compared to what? You can just use vectors from scratch)

AF3 boards could easily comes from a JPN cart, so factory soldering means ~nothing~

So, you need less technology to fake a non-existent game.

Now, PS2 boards looks definitively factory made, and IMO seems damn good to me.


*If* this will be confirmed to be a fake, then I agree we should fear a new wave of undistinguished boards, but I still believe that the "best of breed" fake artworks (french ones) are still noticeable when compared or at naked eye:

http://www.revolteque.com/neo/b2bVSfakeMS2.jpg
 

Comrade Porn King Mikhail

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100% FACT:

Someone who has posted on this exact page has a 100% authentic Aero Fighters home cart from "the source" in their possession right now.

I guarantee this is the absolute truth. And yes, I can even supply a picture for proof but can't release it without permission. If you doubt me, I'll bet my entire MVS library including my two MVS cabs on it.
 
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FTL

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100% FACT:

Someone who has posted on this exact page has a 100% authentic Aero Fighters home cart from "the source" in their possession right now.

I guarantee this is the absolute truth. And yes, I can even supply a picture for proof but can't release it without permission. If you doubt me, I'll bet my entire MVS library including my two MVS cabs on it.

you mean authentic as authentic made by the source?
Not sure how you can state autenticity just by source words...
 
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