Witcher 2 - Fucking awesome

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Simply put Witcher 2 is fucking awesome. If you've got anywhere of a decent pc you need to own this game. It is the best looking game made for the moment period!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0juU6jjEA1Y < this is it pretty much running at low settings on my week m11x.

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If I cant run it so can you and you fucking should be.
 

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I'm curious as to why the esrb also rated an Xbox360 version of this game.

Hmm.....
 

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For some reason, I have never been able to finish the first one.

It does look like a great game, but I think I'll hold off for now, at least until I can play through the original Witcher.
 

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You dont nessarily have to play through the orginial witcher. They're both stories in there own right. Witcher 1 plays completly different and is totally a PC type game. I'd have to say there is a 95% chance Witcher 2 is coming to console. The controls, menus and gameplay are all very console like. You dont really use your mouse except to right and left click for attacks. It could easly be mapped to a 360 controller and feel fluid. I should of shown the menus. Instead of tradition to many items on a screen pc menu it has a picture menu thats very very simplistic.

Im gonna have to say Witcher 2 is great but, if you're looking for a PC style of game this almost isnt one.
 

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That tree shaking in the title menu looks like a fekking Flash animation. WTF.

Drop in frame rate is horrible.
 

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I have no doubt there will be a console version. I think it's doing the game a disservice though. There's a level of depth and field of view that the current consoles just don't have the horsepower to do anymore. Look at how far off you can see in the video above. On the console that would be obscured with fog, or rendered with very low res textures. These kinds of games are what keep the PC relevant to me.
 

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I have no doubt there will be a console version. I think it's doing the game a disservice though. There's a level of depth and field of view that the current consoles just don't have the horsepower to do anymore. Look at how far off you can see in the video above. On the console that would be obscured with fog, or rendered with very low res textures. These kinds of games are what keep the PC relevant to me.

I completely agree with this sentiment.

PC gaming is at the bottom of my priority of current gaming experiences. I always opt for console play first.

But with The Witcher, I experienced a game that I both cared about AND felt it could only turn out that way on a PC. There are other games that are clearly made for PCs, but I don't care about them. This one, however, is a purely PC based experience and I found it sublime.

I like the fact that there's a powerhouse series out there for me to experience solely on PC. It helps to give it a sense of identity. At first, I used to lament that The Witcher enver hit for consoles. Now, I'm really glad it didn't. Selfish, I know, but I like what the series represents to my personal gaming experience.
 

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That tree shaking in the title menu looks like a fekking Flash animation. WTF.

Drop in frame rate is horrible.
Im assuming you've never used fraps before. It cuts your frame rate substantially. Also on top of that the fact that Im running it on a 1.3ghz laptop. Cmon.
 

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Im assuming you've never used fraps before. It cuts your frame rate substantially. Also on top of that the fact that Im running it on a 1.3ghz laptop. Cmon.

haters gonna hate
 

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Bump

Witcher 2 officially announced for Xbox360. (Linky)
 

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Yeah, I saw that. Personally, I wish they would have just released a cleaned up version of the first one, a more intuitive version with a streamlined interface, on XBLA and PSN instead. The first game is still better than most of the other RPGs on the market, and would do well. And CDProjekt would be able to draw new money from an old title for a market that hasn't experienced it yet.

Still, good news for console fans.
 

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Bump Here we are, less than a month away from the console release.

I'm quite excited. As I watch various trailers for the game it reminds me of the Two World series.

But I'd imagine the production values will be a cut above those games.
 

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This was my GOTY for 2011. Even though I like The Witcher solely because of its uniquely PC experience, I have to admit that after having played the game to completion, I'm curious to see how it'll turn out on Xbox with all the enhancements. I'm probably going to break down and buy this again.
 

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Y'know, I see why people might pay a bit of attention to metacritic, but to me it's a relatively minor detail.

Anyways. I got this for 360 yesterday and logged an hour or two.

I have no idea what's going on, the interface is very clunky, and there's a lot of texture pop-in so far. But the narrative seems very interesting and I've very curious to see what's going on.

I have a feeling this one might wind up in the 'flawed masterpiece' column -- excellent narrative/story, but needlessly complex gameplay. I guess that's PC gaming for you, though.
 

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I'm about ten hours in now. I can see why this won awards last year. The presentation is slick, the voice work is quite excellent and the narrative is more than interesting. The combat system took a little getting use to. There's a timing, a cadence, required when swinging your sword; if you button mash it may feel as though the system is slow. Also, the system (due to the number of enemies it throws at you) demands that you mix in usable items, signs and potions.

To me, this feels like Dark Souls-lite, only with less exploration. Good stuff.
 

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Just started playing The Witcher. Collecting all the sex cards. Being a boss :glee:
 

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Also, the system (due to the number of enemies it throws at you) demands that you mix in usable items, signs and potions.

This is why I disagree with criticisms, like Ninny's above, that the game engine is needlessly overcomplicated.

Play the game on a respectable difficulty and you see how traps, potions, signs and tight understanding of the combat mechanics are all required to overcome challenges. You are well served in this game by stuff questing and working on more efficient gear on harder difficulties.

The easier difficulties are included for the people that only want to enjoy the (magnificent) story or who don't care about using all the mechanics given to them.

Game holds up. Best of 2011. It's a complete experience and is as much an 'all things for all people' game as I've ever seen. Glad Xbox players are having fun with it.
 

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Well... Maybe overcomplicated was the wrong word.

I'd say it's busy. There's a lot of shit going on all the time, and it's not very smooth. I find it's a bit difficult to execute my commands to Geralt: A lot of the time I wind up targeting the wrong guy, swinging my sword at empty air while four guys stab me in the ass, whiff a spell, etc.

Now, that said, it's a long way from bad. I guess I've just been a bit spoiled by Dark Souls and the like (which, let's be fair, is vastly superior on the combat end). And one ought to take into account the fact that it's a PC port that was not planned for in the outset, and those can be a little rough around the edges. I'm just glad to have the opportunity to play the game.

Because yes, the story is excellent so far. I like how it doesn't hold your hand -- it reminds me of Game of Thrones in that sense. And it's been extremely addictive so far. A few of the quest objectives I've run across have been a bit vague, but otherwise I was telling myself "Just one more" well into the night yesterday.

So yeah. It's not flawless, but is it a great game so far? Yes. Fuck yes.
 

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I'd say it's busy. There's a lot of shit going on all the time, and it's not very smooth. I find it's a bit difficult to execute my commands to Geralt: A lot of the time I wind up targeting the wrong guy, swinging my sword at empty air while four guys stab me in the ass, whiff a spell, etc.

I found the targeting system to be initially a little loose myself. I would definitely agree that it could be a little more natural to use, like Dark Souls. I found myself fighting with the targeting elements of The Witcher 2 for a long while, and that's definitely not what players should be doing when it's time to fight. You don't want it to be counter intuitive.

Now, that said, it's a long way from bad. I guess I've just been a bit spoiled by Dark Souls and the like (which, let's be fair, is vastly superior on the combat end). And one ought to take into account the fact that it's a PC port that was not planned for in the outset, and those can be a little rough around the edges. I'm just glad to have the opportunity to play the game.

I would totally agree that Dark Souls has the superior control. The game plays very tight. I think I prefer the variety offered to me in The Witcher 2, but there is no denying that the core mechanics of Dark Souls' combat are as refined as a game of its type and pace will ever be.

Because yes, the story is excellent so far. I like how it doesn't hold your hand -- it reminds me of Game of Thrones in that sense. And it's been extremely addictive so far. A few of the quest objectives I've run across have been a bit vague, but otherwise I was telling myself "Just one more" well into the night yesterday.

So yeah. It's not flawless, but is it a great game so far? Yes. Fuck yes.

I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it, at the very least. This is another area where I feel The Witcher 2 succeeds over Dark Souls (since it's been brought up.)

And it's not just in the narrative. It's in the environments. You go into living communities, interact with NPCs, experience the world of the game's politics and social structure as you make your way through the chapters. The World of The Witcher 2 is alive with enough of the strengths and weaknesses of a medieval civilization that you are able to experience more emotional highs and lows as you progress.

RPGs, for me, are about narrative, primarily. I can't play a RPG if the only good thing about it is the combat. Dark Souls has a narrative, but it's bleak and monotonous. It's perfect for what that game's trying to accomplish, but it's also dead and cold. All the characters are soft spoke and morose. The air itself is oppressive and melancholy in Dark Souls. I always feel alone in it. Again, that's the point. But it's also the main reason I can't put it over The Witcher 2 for 2011. It's got one long, icy emotional pitch.

I love walking into taverns in The Witcher 2 and gambling or getting caught up on rumors or getting into fistfights. Even just hearnig the tavern music. It's a dangerous, dark world, but it's also one with life and possibilities and people making what they can out of it. That's what I want to experience, more often than not, when I play a RPG.
 

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Sounds like we're pretty much on the same page, then -- and I'd add that I'm still in the midst of Chapter 1. I reserve the right to change my mind over time. :)

You raise a good point with the whole atmosphere thing. Personally, I absolutely loved the foreboding loneliness and melancholy of Dark Souls (and Demon's Souls too). I would even say that so far, I prefer its barebones bleak-ass story to Witcher 2's. But again, I'm early on and I may well change my mind. So we'll see.

And there is one other thing... In Witcher, you can get laid. Like a boss, no less. :lolz:
 

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Just finished this up a little while ago. Want an absolutely fantastic game. Although, I also admit that Witcher 2 had the most adult scenes in a video game that I've ever played. And I'm not talking about T&A, I'm refering to the gratuitous amounts of violence, it's borderline gag-worthy. Why this game didn't get an "A" rating from the ESRB is beyond me, but I'm extremely glad I played it none the less.
 

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Good god, man. How do you find the time to finish all these games so quickly? Your house must be filthy. :)
 

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Just finished this up a little while ago. Want an absolutely fantastic game. Although, I also admit that Witcher 2 had the most adult scenes in a video game that I've ever played. And I'm not talking about T&A, I'm refering to the gratuitous amounts of violence, it's borderline gag-worthy. Why this game didn't get an "A" rating from the ESRB is beyond me, but I'm extremely glad I played it none the less.

I'm not kidding when I say that The Witcher 2 is the Game of Thrones of video games.

In terms of story, themes, politics and intrigue, it's every bit as Machiavellian and engrossing as Game of Thrones is.

The game's just that fucking good.

Don't forget to play through it a second time for the alternate endings. There are seven variations.

Already, I'm noticing some of the differences between PC and 360 builds, although all the Enhanced stuff is free to PC owners who have the game already.

And another great thing is that in terms of storyline and intrigues, the first game's pretty damn good, too.
 
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