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astounding
and ending a religious war with religion seems....well you tell me
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New Rick Perry ad shows formula for getting 347k dislikes in 2 days
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astounding
and ending a religious war with religion seems....well you tell me
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fb is being really weird about takei's link to this pic.
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What the fuck? Who funds these idiots for these campaigns. I mean, if you believe conspiracy on any small level, it can't be more apt then looking at the totally obvious anti civil rights idiots in the media.
Fuck rick perry and michelle bachman, bunch of gay hating bigots. If you aren't gay, you don't get it, so stfu please.
Obama is gonna be president again, and hes going to win easily.
Fuck rick perry and michelle bachman, bunch of gay hating bigots. If you aren't gay, you don't get it, so stfu please.
Obama is gonna be president again, and hes going to win easily.
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Not only that - many of the founding fathers were atheists. Whether they were religious or not, they all realized the dangers of combining church and state: They had experienced it first hand and decided to build a new country. O'Riley, Hannity, etc somehow deny this. I can't believe how many people cite "One nation under God" and don't even know that phrase was wedged in during WWII.
I think a lot of famously genius people were closet atheists back in the day. Today if you're openly atheists people assume you have nor moral base, are a hedonist, etc. Back then they'd cut your fucking head off. Mendel himself was probably an atheist - he used becoming a monk as an opportunity to devote his time to science.
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I've read very differently, but they still acknowledged the dangers of combining church with state. Even with that said, I swear I've read somewhere that the founding fathers also believed that you needed a strong christian faith to lead a country.
I'm sure somebody will come in and correct me.
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Those are views, not dislikes. Only 323k dislikes. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who believes Perry will get the nomination. There's like one guy who wrote a book on Perry and thinks he'll get a second look after a Newt implosion, but he hates Perry anyway.
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I'm not all that sure about the others, but if you read what Jefferson wrote over the course of his life, it's pretty hard to come to the conclusion he's anything other than an atheist.
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Well, maybe I'm exaggerating when I say atheist. I'm sure a few were, but I think many were at least against the establishment of religion, if not simply deists.
Madison:
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."
"Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects."
Adams:
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."
Jefferson:
"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
Franklin: "I looked around for God's judgments, but saw no signs of them."
Paine:
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
"The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion."
etc. It's crazy how people just assume the founding fathers were Christians.
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Seriously, this is something the right has been shoving down everyone's throat. Can a teacher tell everyone to bow their heads and pray to god? No. Can a student pray on their own terms? Yes.
For fuck sake, my high school had a Fellowship of Christian Athletes club.
I'm not sure what Rick wants to change about that. I really wish someone would ask him or anyone else who brings it up what they mean by that.
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thought that was funny too, but i enjoyed the vid.
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I think YouTube is just slow updating the view count.
Yes that parody video was hilarious but so true. Religion is simply human invention... Only people could have conjoured up a book so full of inconsistencies over several thousand years.
Yes that parody video was hilarious but so true. Religion is simply human invention... Only people could have conjoured up a book so full of inconsistencies over several thousand years.
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Dolphins have us beat in the book writing department.
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Interestingly enough, I've been doing research on the American Founding Fathers and religious belief.
Many of them were definitely not orthodox Christians in many senses; however, they were supportive of religion as the foundation of morals for any democratic republic.
Paine, it could be said, was the most militant of deists, constantly lashing out against religion; Ben Franklin chided him for this on several occasions.
John Adams was a Christ-as-savior believing Unitarian; Jefferson, as well, was a Unitarian deist-restorationist (believing he was endorsing the ideas of the early church, specifically Arians who did not believe in Christ's divinity). Franklin was born into a Calvinist background, so he maintained the ideas of order and stability they endorsed; he was a traditional deist, emphasizing a God who keeps law and order in the universe, but no Jesus Christ as savior. Lastly, Madison's private views are difficult to tell, though there are statements to the effect that he was very much a deist/unitarian of some sort "The belief in a God All Powerful wise and good is so essential to the moral order of the World and to the happiness of man, that arguments which enforce it cannot be drawn from too many resources."
So yeah, not so much Christian, but very much part of a religious movement (deism went out of style in the early 1800s as well). How bizarre that America was generally founded by a bunch of heterodox Unitarians; go figure.
EDIT: Oh yeah, Rick Perry ad, my bad. I imagine Rick Perry's been out of the race since his performance in the "oops" debate, so he's just digging a hole for himself. Democrats will obviously be angry, and so will most Republicans, who will see it as open bashing against not only Democrats, but Mitt Romney and Huntsman (both Mormons, not Christians!)
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I hate the idea of religion in public systems. You make christmas the big thing, jews will feel left out, and vice versa, just put any religion in the same spot. Rick Parry should send me his money so I can use it on something that shows.
I mean all those contributions combined, I should be able to score a euro kizuna.
I mean all those contributions combined, I should be able to score a euro kizuna.