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Only a complete fuckwit would choose season 3 over 4.
Dexter season 6
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HeartlessNinny
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ha ha ha, you said it, not me. 
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You're a pretty angry guy. I'm glad those opinions aren't getting to you.
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I would also add that you defending me by intentionally looking foolish... Yeah, that ain't gonna happen.
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Yeah, I thought this episode was all right. I read this thread earlier today and was pretty shocked at the negative reception. OK, not shocked, but ready to be let down and to see Angel cry for 47 mins... It wasn't that bad. It showed Dexter taking out a few bad guys, it established a new threat and I really didn't mind all of the religious stuff introduced. I'm not saying it was the best episode ever or anything, but it really wasn't as bad as I was being led to believe.
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Speaking for myself, I can say that I didn't hate the episode or anything. It wasn't horrible. It just didn't do much to get me excited for the new season, that's all.
I guess I felt like it'd been overshadowed by stuff like Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire. But like I said, that's one episode out of 12 or 13. It's no reason to write off the season or anything, at least not yet.
I guess I felt like it'd been overshadowed by stuff like Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire. But like I said, that's one episode out of 12 or 13. It's no reason to write off the season or anything, at least not yet.
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Dexter got a couple kills in, they didn't wait until halfway through the season to introduce the main antagonist (plus Dexter may actually show an interest in him, unlike the brothers from last season or the Skinner from 3), I don't know what happened to Rita's kids but no big loss because it means the story won't go in the awful direction the books did (with those kids at least), Harrison has somewhere to go so we don't have to worry about babysitters like last season, saw some tits, Masuka got his moments, and Angel and LaGuerta got a divorce thank god.
I'm giving the first episode a thumbs up for now. I know the Quinn and Debra angle will be annoying but every Debra plotline is annoying so I'll live.
The Harrison in Catholic school plot also gives a nice opportunity to explore the differences between Harry and Dexter. Namely, Harry was only interested in Dexter avoiding jail while Dexter actually seemed to want to do good.
There's a scene in season 2 or 3 where Harry takes Dexter to an execution and he asks Dexter what the number 1 rule is. Dexter says "make sure it's the right person" while Harry says it's "to not get caught." That sort of thing that will have to show up if they develop baby Harrison as a future killer.
I'm giving the first episode a thumbs up for now. I know the Quinn and Debra angle will be annoying but every Debra plotline is annoying so I'll live.
The Harrison in Catholic school plot also gives a nice opportunity to explore the differences between Harry and Dexter. Namely, Harry was only interested in Dexter avoiding jail while Dexter actually seemed to want to do good.
There's a scene in season 2 or 3 where Harry takes Dexter to an execution and he asks Dexter what the number 1 rule is. Dexter says "make sure it's the right person" while Harry says it's "to not get caught." That sort of thing that will have to show up if they develop baby Harrison as a future killer.
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You know, when you put it like this, I wonder if I was too hard on that initial episode.
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I can see why this ep. is considered weak, but I'm curious enough to continue watching. I do like the religious angle for the new killer, though not for Dexter.
I must be in the minority in that I don't mind Batista as a character. I prefer Matsuka and his antics, and the forensic newbies will be fun to watch. He's a riot no matter what, so I'm happy. Plus, I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of relationship Olmos has with our new killer. It feels vaguely reminiscent of Dexter and his father.
I must be in the minority in that I don't mind Batista as a character. I prefer Matsuka and his antics, and the forensic newbies will be fun to watch. He's a riot no matter what, so I'm happy. Plus, I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of relationship Olmos has with our new killer. It feels vaguely reminiscent of Dexter and his father.
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it wasn't bad, but I took a lot of breaks while watching it. It's not focused. Too many plot lines. Laguerta becoming captain after finding the chief's info in a black book, Angel's little sister, Harrison in school, Quinn trying to take things to the next level, etc. The problem with all of that is that the show is about Dexter, not a department. The audience is not tuning in to find out if Deb and Quinn are serious. Let these things happen in the background.
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Things that are getting incredibly annoying after five seasons:
1) Debra constantly losing her temper, swearing, being the station mattress, and possessing a very narrow skillset to be the Lieutenant. She's better suited as a lead detective with her hunches and investigative techniques, leaving the Lt position for an actual office manager.
2) Angel and Masuka having very little depth. Yes, we know they both like tits. Yes, they can't keep a relationship going. Yes, they do their job adequately and predictably. But is there any actual character evolution in five years?
3) Dexter having seemingly 36 hours in every day. Honestly, he has the time to put in a full workday while either sitting in the office or driving around the entire town to crime scenes, do independent side research, trail his potential victims, AND spend quality time with his son including the ritual of putting him to bed. How many fathers out there can put a kid to bed with all the crap he does in under two hours?!? What about actually dispensing his victims, prepping the room, cleaning it up and removing all evidence, chopping up the bodies, then dumping them in the ocean and still having time to tend to Harrison at home?
The show is still watchable, but if this is another season without major character changes, it's going to be mediocre just as Seasons 2 & 3 were.
1) Debra constantly losing her temper, swearing, being the station mattress, and possessing a very narrow skillset to be the Lieutenant. She's better suited as a lead detective with her hunches and investigative techniques, leaving the Lt position for an actual office manager.
2) Angel and Masuka having very little depth. Yes, we know they both like tits. Yes, they can't keep a relationship going. Yes, they do their job adequately and predictably. But is there any actual character evolution in five years?
3) Dexter having seemingly 36 hours in every day. Honestly, he has the time to put in a full workday while either sitting in the office or driving around the entire town to crime scenes, do independent side research, trail his potential victims, AND spend quality time with his son including the ritual of putting him to bed. How many fathers out there can put a kid to bed with all the crap he does in under two hours?!? What about actually dispensing his victims, prepping the room, cleaning it up and removing all evidence, chopping up the bodies, then dumping them in the ocean and still having time to tend to Harrison at home?
The show is still watchable, but if this is another season without major character changes, it's going to be mediocre just as Seasons 2 & 3 were.
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I tend to agree, though it does seem clear that that boss guy expects Deb to be a terrible LT, which he can then blame on Laguerta. But otherwise you're spot on.
Speaking of tits, we better get to see that intern's tits. And soon. I'm sick of sex-less AMC shows, I want to see some Showtime shit, goddamnit.
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Looks like things are picking up a bit. I'm getting really fucking sick of Laguerta having her thumb in every pie in sight, though. That character just needs to fuck off and die already. Maybe Dex will kill her. A man can dream.
Anyways, I liked the guest spot from the OCP chairman. I thought he did a good job of not being an idiot, but still not being any real threat to Dexter. I love how Dex took him out, too. "Everyone will think you died of a heart attack!" "NOOOOOO" *smother*
Anyways, I liked the guest spot from the OCP chairman. I thought he did a good job of not being an idiot, but still not being any real threat to Dexter. I love how Dex took him out, too. "Everyone will think you died of a heart attack!" "NOOOOOO" *smother*
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Crap. 
I did, but Season 3 was the first season of Dexter that I watched. That may have something to do with it, but I did feel that season 4 could have ended a few episodes early. It's like the story arc was done but they sold showtime a set number of episodes and had to add some filler to fulfill their end of the bargain.
I did, but Season 3 was the first season of Dexter that I watched. That may have something to do with it, but I did feel that season 4 could have ended a few episodes early. It's like the story arc was done but they sold showtime a set number of episodes and had to add some filler to fulfill their end of the bargain.
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I'm starting to get bored about the whole sides stories, angel, masuka, laguerta, debra, quin.
May be they should let the episodes be only 25mins just Dexter, pure Dexter and no shitty characters. Yeah, may be Masuka has his momments, Angel is a "good guy", but I'm all fed up with Debra's mouth, Laguerta's cun attitude and Quin's ass face... I can't help it.
I see a character evolution on Dexter's side, which makes completely sense. You can't hope for Dexter NOT to change after everything he's been through, his dark passenger is still there, yes, but ALSO he's been facing a lot more "regular human" situations which eventually have changed him a little bit, without compromising the way he is deep down inside his persona. You see him actually developing bonds with Rita, the children... specially Harryson... there's nothing fake there, those are actual feelings right there. So you can't actually blame the writers because they are starting to make him more human like, his evolutions is merely a reflection of everything we've been seeing since season 1, growth. I do believe it all started as a cover up thing, but now is much more than that.
May be they should let the episodes be only 25mins just Dexter, pure Dexter and no shitty characters. Yeah, may be Masuka has his momments, Angel is a "good guy", but I'm all fed up with Debra's mouth, Laguerta's cun attitude and Quin's ass face... I can't help it.
I see a character evolution on Dexter's side, which makes completely sense. You can't hope for Dexter NOT to change after everything he's been through, his dark passenger is still there, yes, but ALSO he's been facing a lot more "regular human" situations which eventually have changed him a little bit, without compromising the way he is deep down inside his persona. You see him actually developing bonds with Rita, the children... specially Harryson... there's nothing fake there, those are actual feelings right there. So you can't actually blame the writers because they are starting to make him more human like, his evolutions is merely a reflection of everything we've been seeing since season 1, growth. I do believe it all started as a cover up thing, but now is much more than that.
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Well, Dex is either a monster or he isn't. To me the biggest flaw of the show was the fact that the writers can't seem to figure that one out. I used to think that the show would end with him getting caught or killed, but now I think it's going to be pure redemption. Lame.
I just hope he doesn't find religion for real... that would be some serious bullshit, and a real shark jumping moment (assuming they haven't already).
That said, I do like Olmos in the show. I just wished we got more of him vs Dex instead of all this other bullshit.
I just hope he doesn't find religion for real... that would be some serious bullshit, and a real shark jumping moment (assuming they haven't already).
That said, I do like Olmos in the show. I just wished we got more of him vs Dex instead of all this other bullshit.
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I liked the way "just let go" episode ended, sort of like "giving in" and then Brian showing up like that... it was shocking, in a good way.
However "Nebraska" put him right back in the "good path". I liked that small detour Dexter took, I wish it would have lasted longer, I mean Travis sure seems to have redeemed himself for good, although I doubt he has actually quit ...
Not actually a spoiler but a theory...
However "Nebraska" put him right back in the "good path". I liked that small detour Dexter took, I wish it would have lasted longer, I mean Travis sure seems to have redeemed himself for good, although I doubt he has actually quit ...
Not actually a spoiler but a theory...
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That might be possible but the freed hostage testified that there were two people. Unless Travis is speaking in the professor's voice too, I would doubt Travis is seeing things.
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as for getting bored with the series. Been bored with it for ages. But right now, Quinn's character is getting the best dialogue. I find myself cracking up at his lines all the time now.
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Yeah, that thought popped into my head too, but like wasabi said it's not possible.
I tell ya. This last episode was nearly downright silly. I can't figure out where they're going with all this.
Dexter seems to genuinely enjoy killing people, and the show doesn't back away from that -- except Dexter is constantly trying to search for 'light' within himself (*groan*), and vying for redemption all the while.
He murders people without remorse, sometimes even though they don't deserve it (there's been at least one case where he was wrong about someone, but didn't seem to care much), but the show doesn't seem to think he's a bad guy.
I dunno. We'll see how it ends. If nothing else, Colin Hanks has been doing a pretty good job alongside Olmos, and I remain interested enough to be invested. I think this show's best days are behind it though.
Oh, here's my theory, by the way: Olmos is gonna kill Hanks.
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well there you go. plus in the 'making-of' portion at the end they point out a lot of things and filming methods that give it away. I kinda want to revisit a bunch of parts here.
Im pretty sure the show is back on track (sadly just in time for the finale).
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I've been staying clear of this thread to avoid theories like this, but good call.
I want to re-watch every episode from this season now.. to see who, if anyone, interacts with him. I don't think anyone has other than Travis.