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Heh, guess he'll be in for a big surprise if he's wrong!
If God (should he/she/it exist) has a good day the day Hawking passes away, we will get the very first ghost on wheels...
Stephen Hawking trolls the Christians. Again.
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Heh, guess he'll be in for a big surprise if he's wrong!
If God (should he/she/it exist) has a good day the day Hawking passes away, we will get the very first ghost on wheels...
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I take no official position on the issue.,
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I thought Einstein was agnostic, no?
Though, agnostics are really just atheists at heart.
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Not many people know this, but Issac Newton was a religious nut.
For every minute he spent studying physics, he spent another trying to figure out when the Bible says the Eurth will end.
For every minute he spent studying physics, he spent another trying to figure out when the Bible says the Eurth will end.
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Nope. We just say "I don't know if God exists or not. Give us a reasonable and falsifiable proof that God exists, if you claim to know the truth."
Because God seems to be quite contained since the old testament times and stopped destroying whole cities or flooding the entire world, I'm afraid giving a proof would be quite a difficult task to do.
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Obviously God's kingdom is not for you. And it isn't for everyone; that's a given. Desiring time space travel abilities is silly really because it lacks the foundation of actual time space which we can't really prove. I mean, do you really believe we went to the moon? Come on. The theory of outer space is just a theory, meaning it hasn't been proven yet. So before you wish to fly through outerspace, make sure you wish for outerspace to actually exist.
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"Heaven" is a concept that goes well beyond angels sitting on clouds and playing harps.
Maybe it's a synonym for a place where all dimensions are one, where everything is all and nothing at the same time. This is how I picture the state of the universe before the big bang (if there was one). This concept does not necessarily involve a god, though.
Maybe it's a synonym for a place where all dimensions are one, where everything is all and nothing at the same time. This is how I picture the state of the universe before the big bang (if there was one). This concept does not necessarily involve a god, though.
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Agree 100%
Its kinda sad to think of how many people have been tortured and/or killed by the church throughout history due to different beliefs, misunderstandings and flat out paranoia, only to have the Church later say "Oops, our bad".
"Round up the Heretics, we are having ourselves a bon fire tonight!"
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Been to the place where all is one a few times and let me tell you - when you come to the realization you may not be able to ever go back, it becomes hellish.
Every degree of power involves a corresponding degree of freedom from good and evil.
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When you mix star of davids, brahma, a smurf, and a dogs head in a cauldron, you can transcend time and space.
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Then you haven't really been to this place because there neither is a way to escape from there, nor would you really want to escape. Anything will be there and nothing, every idea, force or thought without structure, form, dimension or our idea of time, everything just exists (and even that is not really the case). There's no "I" or "you", it's like a black hole without the hole, a permanent state of "active nothingness". Some call it Nirvana, others Heaven, Paradise, Garden of Eden, etc. Different names, same meaning. It just became trivial due to our childish ideas of the gods as old people with long beards or heaven as a place of milk and honey with fluffly clouds... but the concept itself is not trivial at all, on the contrary, it resembles the ultimate meta-physical complexity.
Hope this babble makes any sense.
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Well like that's just your opinion, man. All those devout Christians can't be wrong.
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"I'm absolutely not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza’s pantheism, but admire even more his contribution to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and body as one, and not two separate things." - Albert Einstein.
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Noone is right or wrong in this case, neither our scientists with their funny formulas, nor followers of various religions with their creation myths and redeemers.
In my opinion, mankind has not yet reached the required evolutionary level to grasp all these higher concepts. Sometimes there seem to be cases of spontaneous evolution that lead to the birth and development of minds capable of drawing conclusions that are revolutionary or even seem scary to joe average. Eventually, people will listen to them and then it's time to take the next evolutionary step. Think of the discovery of fire, spoken and written languages, steam power, atomic energy, etc.
Yet somehow we neglected the spiritual evolution within the techno babble. That's why we're still on the same pitiful philosophical and meta-physical level as 100 years ago. We're able to put computers on nano particles or alter our genes but still wage war against other beliefs, ridicule our philosophers or indulge in atavistic rituals that shall bring us eternal life.
Maybe working on resolving this contradiction is the way to go in the future. I mean, yeah, the larval stage is cuddly and comfy and all but it's not meant to last forever.
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As water created animals to carry it uphill, language (aka The Word) created man to carry it into space.
But what does God need with a starship?
Yeah suck on that, Pube!
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Ahahaha you nerd.
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Einstein was really articulate in English for a guy that didn't speak it as his first language.
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There is no way in hell us puny human beings can even come CLOSE to understanding what the hell this universe is all about. I'm so sick of scientists and religious people trying to separate everything into science vs faith/religion and saying "it's either this or that, pick one". I'm sorry but it's all one thing and it goes so much farther than we could possibly comprehend. That Albert Einstein quote I posted is the mo'fuckin troof. Deal with it.
Yes I believe in God but I'm also a free thinker.
Yes I believe in God but I'm also a free thinker.
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If god existed, he would have taught Jesus capoeira to pass on to his disciples.
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Jesus has powers, why would he need capoeira? If I could shoot fireballs and levitate I would have no need for flips.
p.s. This is gonna end up in somebody's sig.
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Mestre Jesus.
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Fireballs are cool but that's devil magic. Capoeira is stylish and something that he could have passed on to his followers to protect themselves from the Romans who subjugated him and turned his miniseries of parables into a fully syndicated tv drama.
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Same here.
If heaven was exactly like how the Christian fundies think it is; I would want no fucking part of it... because it would be packed full of assholes.