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Marek

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Obama is saying that we are 'tightening the noose' on Quadaffi.

Seriously? The Noose?

We're lynching him now?

Way to go, Barak, you're just ASKING for people to keep using lynching/nooses/lynch mobs as terms in political discourse.

Boo!
 

Marek

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Damm those dirty Jews! ...and their killer Jew-sharks and Jew-vultures!

Damm them! Damm them!

Bok has a very legitimate point here.

The racist, extremist conservative government in Israel is only nominally 'Jewish'. Israel is a very secular place on the average so you really shouldn't broadly refer to Israelis as Jews.

You don't have to take my word for it. You could just go over there, or read about it at least.
 

aria

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1000 Saudi troops, alongside troops from the UAE, have entered Bahrain at the behest of the King. (Saudi and Bahrain are connected by a long causeway) They are also acting on behalf of the GCC (Gulf Cooperative between the Arab countries of the Gulf).

This is potentially huge.

Remember: Bahrain is about 85% Shiite, while the Royal family and their cronies are Sunni --this imbalance has sparked the tension there that's been boiling over. Adding a greater complication: Saudi Arabia and the other Arab Gulf states are also predominantly Sunni. Saudi has the added concern of their Eastern regions which not only hold significant numbers of Shiites but most of their oil.

The potentially catastrophic problem is if the big Shiite nation, Iran, decides to take action. Iran and Saudi have been seeing some proxy fights elsewhere: both have funded sides in Iraq (where Iran has been more successful in influencing politics), Iran-backed Hezbollah has ousted the Saudi-backed regime in Lebanon, and Saudi's secular partner in the region, Egypt under Mubarak, is now out of the picture for the time being. If Iran opts to send troops to support the opposition parties, we have a grade-A international emergency because it will disrupt all the oil going through the Gulf --and a proxy fight between Iran and Saudi could create far-reaching chaos in world markets that would cause a major, major worldwide recession as oil prices would skyrocket. Also keep in mind the Bahrain has a major US Naval Base, though it would seem likely that any such escalation would see all sides avoiding the base.

There is speculation that Iran would not be willing to do something that drastic. At the same time, Iran hadn't seen a need to intervene in Bahrain before because the momentum of events seemed to be naturally favoring the Shiite population. Things are different now that the Sunni Royal family has called in the support of neighboring armies --a potential "occupying force" which history demonstrates is never popular among a population.

Interestingly, because of the US base, Bahrain is the one country where the US has taken a strong stand in favor of the ruling gov't.

Keep an eye on this one --if it escalates you will probably be telling your kids about what started the subsequent events.
 

evil wasabi

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1000 Saudi troops, alongside troops from the UAE, have entered Bahrain at the behest of the King. (Saudi and Bahrain are connected by a long causeway) They are also acting on behalf of the GCC (Gulf Cooperative between the Arab countries of the Gulf).

This is potentially huge.

Remember: Bahrain is about 85% Shiite, while the Royal family and their cronies are Sunni --this imbalance has sparked the tension there that's been boiling over. Adding a greater complication: Saudi Arabia and the other Arab Gulf states are also predominantly Sunni. Saudi has the added concern of their Eastern regions which not only hold significant numbers of Shiites but most of their oil.

The potentially catastrophic problem is if the big Shiite nation, Iran, decides to take action. Iran and Saudi have been seeing some proxy fights elsewhere: both have funded sides in Iraq (where Iran has been more successful in influencing politics), Iran-backed Hezbollah has ousted the Saudi-backed regime in Lebanon, and Saudi's secular partner in the region, Egypt under Mubarak, is now out of the picture for the time being. If Iran opts to send troops to support the opposition parties, we have a grade-A international emergency because it will disrupt all the oil going through the Gulf --and a proxy fight between Iran and Saudi could create far-reaching chaos in world markets that would cause a major, major worldwide recession as oil prices would skyrocket. Also keep in mind the Bahrain has a major US Naval Base, though it would seem likely that any such escalation would see all sides avoiding the base.

There is speculation that Iran would not be willing to do something that drastic. At the same time, Iran hadn't seen a need to intervene in Bahrain before because the momentum of events seemed to be naturally favoring the Shiite population. Things are different now that the Sunni Royal family has called in the support of neighboring armies --a potential "occupying force" which history demonstrates is never popular among a population.

Interestingly, because of the US base, Bahrain is the one country where the US has taken a strong stand in favor of the ruling gov't.

Keep an eye on this one --if it escalates you will probably be telling your kids about what started the subsequent events.

Don't pretend for a second that Obama didn't detonate a bomb in the pacific specifically to distract attention from the crimes that he's condoning in the Middle East. Obama can't do shit except create weather catastrophes.


WORST PRESIDENT EVER.
 

SML

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Meh.

I believe in self-determination.
 

evil wasabi

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aria

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This is going to be a No Fly Zone run by the supporting cast of other such famous feature military conflicts such as Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Iraq I, and Iraq II: Toulon's Revenge.
 

evil wasabi

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This is going to be a No Fly Zone run by the supporting cast of other such famous feature military conflicts such as Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Iraq I, and Iraq II: Toulon's Revenge.

I FUCKIN LOVED PUPPET MASTER!
 

Xavier

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dude, fuck off. UN declared that. Not Amerka. I wish they would just send your whole family there with a bunch to sporks to save the world so you could either have some real bragging rights or a taste of your fucking reality.

One or the other, dickshit.

What are you saying? Your not making any sense.
Just say no... to being a smegma.

Ghadafi pointed out this isn't a mandate, five countires obstained from voting for various reasons. In many ways thats worse than Iraqi Freedom. Seems like less countries were involved in the process also.

This time keep the Arab League more involved and follow thier lead.
 
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The Arab League nations would love to stomp all over Libya....

But all of their resources are tied down in Bahrain.
 

NeoTheranthrope

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FINALLY!

Decisive action from the U.N. and the U.S.! I was beginning to worry that help would come too late:

French, British and American military forces unleashed cruise missiles and fighter jets. -CNN

Airstrikes begin on Libya targets -AlJazeera

Libya UN Resolution 1973: Text analysed -BBC World

A coalition that includes Canada and Italy made good Saturday on international warnings to Gadhafi, hammering Libyan military positions in the first phase of an operation that will include enforcement of a no-fly zone.

More than 110 Tomahawk missiles fired from American and British ships and submarines hit about 20 Libyan air and missile defense targets in western portions of the country, U.S. Vice Adm. William Gortney said at a Pentagon briefing.


Americans doing what American do best: blowing shit up! (expensively)

 

Nesagwa

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Seems like all hell is breaking loose in Syria, Bahrain, Libya and Jordon. Just outright shooting people in the face, sniping protestors.
 

lithy

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It is absolutely unbelievable that we're now involved in this shit too.
 

SML

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It is absolutely unbelievable that we're now involved in this shit too.

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Poonman

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Wake me up when the gas prices come down.

And if they don't, then fuck this intervention.
 

NeoTheranthrope

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Wake me up when the gas prices come down.

And if they don't, then fuck this intervention.

Libyan oil goes to Europe, so it's shouldn't affect prices in the U.S. (...assuming the prices weren't the result of overt manipulation, as opposed to genuine market forces)

In other news:

Syrian mourners call for revolt

Yemen opposition activists clash with police

Bahrain tears down protest symbol

Also, an Al Jazeera reporter live on the scene in Tripoli is reporting AAA (Anti-Aircraft Artillery) and smallarms fire http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
 
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lithy

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I know what you're trying to say, but honestly, is "unbelievable" a word you feel comfortable using for this?

Probably not.

Maybe I should say "It is sadly believeable..."
 
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