Arcade Infinity closing it's doors (for real this time)

SouthtownKid

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I wish I owned a lot or something and just made it a free to go arcade, it really sucks a huge cock that people wont experience the amazing times I did anymore in those days. theres no feeling like it.
Arcades died because people got tired of pumping money into games they don't own. 10-20 years ago, it was easy to drop $10 on a game in one night. Okay, but then if someone has an IQ of above 40, they start thinking to themselves that for the price of 3 nights, they can buy the game on playstation or whatever and play forever for free. Gee, do I want to spend $30-$40 to play a game for one week, or do I want to spend $30-$40 to play a game every night for the next 6 months? What should I choose?

Back in the NES/Genesis/SNES days, there was enough difference in quality to keep bringing people to an arcade, but by the PSX/Saturn days, the difference was to slight for anyone other than fanatics to care about, and PS2/Xbox slammed the door on the whole thing.
 

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Arcades died because people got tired of pumping money into games they don't own. 10-20 years ago, it was easy to drop $10 on a game in one night. Okay, but then if someone has an IQ of above 40, they start thinking to themselves that for the price of 3 nights, they can buy the game on playstation or whatever and play forever for free. Gee, do I want to spend $30-$40 to play a game for one week, or do I want to spend $30-$40 to play a game every night for the next 6 months? What should I choose?

Back in the NES/Genesis/SNES days, there was enough difference in quality to keep bringing people to an arcade, but by the PSX/Saturn days, the difference was to slight for anyone other than fanatics to care about, and PS2/Xbox slammed the door on the whole thing.

AI has been a busy arcade for years, it died for economic reasons. Its completely the reason I think. Arcades as a general thing died then, but the hardcore arcades catering to the japanese styled gamer stayed alive for a damn long time.

Actually man, FFA was so fucking busy when I'd go in 07, you could barely even move through the crowds, the interest level was nuts. I entered the sbo quals here. This arcade had like 11 machines dedicated to 3s only, and it was packed to the teeth.

Also I blame capcom for releasing super IV console first, then doing a port of AE for arcade with additions way later, that shit helped generate revenue, but they are cutting corners, and its costing vendors. AI even consolized a PS3 into a cabinet for SUPER IV before AE came out, you could play for free or donate a token. Ken made no money off that.

Something to remember, arcades make money at night primarily. All the stoners wake up at 6 at night and go to arcades after a bowl or getting fucked up on shit quality mexican beer.

FFA didn't close till like 3 in the morning. That's how busy it was.

AI had great traffic.

AI means three words to me, 'hit confirm super'
I'll miss not having the option to go do 3S on a whim's notice. Its a real let down.

3S was a huge money maker for AI to. It was a huge money maker. When IV dropped, the entire scene died at AI almost immediately. It then shifted to denjin arcade, this is the arcade my team placed third in a tourney only to lose to amir's. (Amir was a awesome guy to)

Basically, if IV never dropped, maybe AI would have made more money over all. They wouldn't have had to buy that IV set up that costs a freaking ton to buy, and better yet, who knows what the scene would be like..
The gameplay in california's third strike is second only to japan itself. That's how strong the level is. its insane. Nobody knows how sick it is unless you've played these people in person.

I met my best friend playing third strike, and the game allowed me to meet a lot of great people.

AI was a awesome experience and will be fondly remembered as my stomping ground for deep play. I learned all my depth and dedication at AI.

In a way, IV ruined everything about the hardcore scene, the minute that game dropped, it destroyed a scene with some of the most personal and awesome creative gameplay you'll ever see in your life. You'll never see a match in that like messatsu vs sugi on youtube. Theres so many cool moments in 3S that make you change up.
 
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Yeah, I was only speaking generally. But I'm sure part of why AI did continue to do big business was because of how few competing arcades were left. A lot of people drove a long way to get there. Back in the early '90s, there were 3 full-sized arcades within 10 minutes of where I lived, never mind the countless 7-11s which ALL had a Street Fighter 2 machine, and maybe a big red.

Hell, even when SNES SF2 came out, it put a huge dent in the local SF2 play around here.
 

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btw, america is SHIT. Country full of media liars. Economy getting better? What is this, a goebbels speech?

American is a disaster economically. This is one of the longest time's I've been without a renter at the banning house.
This country needs less stupid regulation so we can start making money. The first thing is new domain laws that protect big corporate bullshit less.... How can AI make it, if I can't get a renter at a house with good rates for months and months? There's a serious problem here.

AI represents the end of a era, and my final chance at instant high level gameplay with no frills. Its over and dead because of stupid ass LA county and its moronic policy regulation restriction garbage that forces people to do worthless song and dance.

Honestly, fuck this shit. Seriously. Fuck environmentalism, fuck gambling laws. Why is it fucking illegal to sports bet? Legalize that and weed, everyone does it, why attach legal guilt to something that'd be more safe and less dangerous if it was just legalized. Sick of all the work it takes. I almost wish I was KING USA, and just fixed all this while taking a big shit on the toilet. I swear to god, if a common guy with good understanding of detailed frustration got control, things could be better.

Theres to many licenses, to many laws, to many regulations, to many taxes.
You can take my rights, but when you take my arcades, we gots beef.

I has been a busy arcade for years, it died for economic reasons. Its completely the reason I think. Arcades as a general thing died then, but the hardcore arcades catering to the japanese styled gamer stayed alive for a damn long time.

Actually man, FFA was so fucking busy when I'd go in 07, you could barely even move through the crowds, the interest level was nuts. I entered the sbo quals here. This arcade had like 11 machines dedicated to 3s only, and it was packed to the teeth.

Also I blame capcom for releasing super IV console first, then doing a port of AE for arcade with additions way later, that shit helped generate revenue, but they are cutting corners, and its costing vendors. AI even consolized a PS3 into a cabinet for SUPER IV before AE came out, you could play for free or donate a token. Ken made no money off that.

Something to remember, arcades make money at night primarily. All the stoners wake up at 6 at night and go to arcades after a bowl or getting fucked up on shit quality mexican beer.

FFA didn't close till like 3 in the morning. That's how busy it was.

AI had great traffic.

AI means three words to me, 'hit confirm super'
I'll miss not having the option to go do 3S on a whim's notice. Its a real let down.

3S was a huge money maker for AI to. It was a huge money maker. When IV dropped, the entire scene died at AI almost immediately. It then shifted to denjin arcade, this is the arcade my team placed third in a tourney only to lose to amir's. (Amir was a awesome guy to)

Basically, if IV never dropped, maybe AI would have made more money over all. They wouldn't have had to buy that IV set up that costs a freaking ton to buy, and better yet, who knows what the scene would be like..
The gameplay in california's third strike is second only to japan itself. That's how strong the level is. its insane. Nobody knows how sick it is unless you've played these people in person.

I met my best friend playing third strike, and the game allowed me to meet a lot of great people.

AI was a awesome experience and will be fondly remembered as my stomping ground for deep play. I learned all my depth and dedication at AI.

In a way, IV ruined everything about the hardcore scene, the minute that game dropped, it destroyed a scene with some of the most personal and awesome creative gameplay you'll ever see in your life. You'll never see a match in that like messatsu vs sugi on youtube. Theres so many cool moments in 3S that make you change up.

cool story, bro.
 

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You are supposed to post a picture or gif when you say "cool story, bro." You rookie.
 

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Wow, I never had a chance to check out AI. Maybe I will go check it out.
 

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I got my cab from them...back in '03? Early '04? They gave me a pretty good deal, and I picked up a bunch of MVS carts for $15 each. I didn't think that much of the arcade though. I remember trying KOF '03 there not long after it came out, and the cab they had the game in had sticks that seemed to be a ball on top of a plastic straw. You could actually bend them a little and the whole thing felt flimsy. No idea what the deal with that was.

Or how about trying to play Nightmare in the Dark with only 1 button. Fun place to visit every once in a while but unless you were interested in Street Fighter or rhythm games there wasn't a lot of reason to spend money there.

PS: I hope someone buys one of their cabs and makes a MAME cabinet out of it so I can post it here. :tickled:

PPS: LOL LWK.
 

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The plaza AI is in has been in the decline for the past few years. Been hearing that the landlord there's been jacking up rent. Quite a few businesses closed up shop or moved when their lease is up, some more to follow. Heard one of my favorite restaurants is going to close down there due to rising rent.. shame.

Use to be tough to find a parking spot, now not so much.

I thought the Tao brothers use to import cars from Japan? Guess they don't do that anymore.

I never understood the part about AI's license being denied by the county. Didn't think the county would give a shit about an unincorporated area (Rowland Heights).
 

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Real shame that this is happening. But after Life Plaza packed up I guess anything is possible. Got 2 of my cabs from the Tao Bros. Whenever a new KOF came out during the start of the new Millenium, friday & Saturday nights were always packed. SF4 and 3S always had plenty of play on them and BlazBlue and KOF Xlll were always played.

Guess there is SUPER Arcade.....but they just suck.
 

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This country needs less stupid regulation so we can start making money.


The first thing is new domain laws that protect big corporate bullshit less.

Wanna "clean up" our economy ?

Create strict lobbyist Laws. Offering any material object or service to any politician would be a felony with 10 year mimimum prison sentence.

Any politician, be it elected or on ballot who accepts any material object or service from any lobbyist would also be giving 10 years, mimimum sentence.

Lobbyist are 90% of the bulk of our problem. It's legal bribery. No different than the Mafia offering a politician a blank check after a fancy diner.

Also, to be fair, Union reps would also be treated as "lobbyist" under this Law. They're no different from a private business/industry lobbyist, except they tend to target Democrats. Private lobbyist target anyone, regardless of Party, so long as they'll play ball.
 
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LWK

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lobbying is just legalized bribery, I've been arguing this for ages. We need to just start movements.
 

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Went into Malibu Grand Prix a few weeks back. 10-15 years ago this place rocked. Now half the arcade has been replaced by ticket redemption machines, there is nothing newer than Time Crisis 3, and almost all the machines have issues. No wonder people start buying cabs and recreating their own version of the arcade in their garages.
 

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I don't think it was people "doing the math and realizing they could buy the game", that's just absurd. Cyber cafes with PC games do fucking amazingly well because there is no lag. I played all the Quakes and UT's on a competitive level and cyber cafes would be packed with PC gamers, that owned the game, on far better rigs at home (talking 4k+ easy) just to go to the LAN and get LAN practice.

I think it's more that the fighting game community sucks in general, and the scene kinda ate itself. Which is why all of the cyber cafe owners I know, will run any sort of event, but a fighting game event. It's just way too toxic.
 

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Okay, then you are a fucking idiot, blind to the world around you.

Again, PC gamers, with 3k or more rigs, who own all games, will shell out to play on weaker systems at cyber cafes on lan.

Maybe for cheap ass fighting gamers this is not the case, and I'm willing to agree that the fighting community is in general pretty horrible compared to others.

However when cafes can charge people to play just about anything but fighters, and most avoid fighters because of the crowd it attracts, I tend to believe people will pay to play games. Hell Madden and Halo players will pay to play.

You haven't proven "pay to play fails" all you've proven is "the fighting game community sucks".
 

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Again, PC gamers, with 3k or more rigs, who own all games, will shell out to play on weaker systems at cyber cafes on lan.
Who here is talking about pc gamers and cyber cafes? We are talking about ARCADES and ARCADE GAMES. Ass.
 

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Who here is talking about pc gamers and cyber cafes? We are talking about ARCADES and ARCADE GAMES. Ass.

Which is still rather fail, as people will shell out to play, take a look at Dave and Busters.

But point blank, the FG community will not shell out to pay to play.

You are talking about one sub set of gamers, that will not do it, and then declaring "people will not pay to play something they can have at home" which has been proven repeatedly false.

The correct statement is "fighting gamers will not pay to play something they can play at home".
 

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Went into Malibu Grand Prix a few weeks back. 10-15 years ago this place rocked. Now half the arcade has been replaced by ticket redemption machines, there is nothing newer than Time Crisis 3, and almost all the machines have issues. No wonder people start buying cabs and recreating their own version of the arcade in their garages.
Unfortunately that's how it is these days. Working for a Peter Piper location, the majority of games are redemption and only a total of 6 video games (3 dual sit-down drivers, Time Crisis 3, Blitz 99 :oh_no: and Ms. Pac-Man/Galaga). TC3 is still a money-making beast and the drivers are fine but when the numbers are crunched every week, roughly 80-85% if the business is redemption and prize.

My last store (now closed) we had quite a number of video games though nothing new. They represented slightly under 25% total of arcade business while the biggies were prize games (Cranes, Stacker w/$200 prizes, Sports Arena, etc). I always kind of hinted that store was the last of the old-fashioned game rooms with the types of videos that were in there (Marvel vs Capcom, Neo-Geo 4 and 6 slots, copule of driving games and shooting games and the nortorious JAMMA cabs which I rotated many a game through, especially all the old Capcom CPS1 games). Damn but I miss that place. Old games...marked up and tagged by the gangs but the controllers and game play still worked perfect.
 

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Which is still rather fail, as people will shell out to play, take a look at Dave and Busters.

But point blank, the FG community will not shell out to pay to play.

You are talking about one sub set of gamers, that will not do it, and then declaring "people will not pay to play something they can have at home" which has been proven repeatedly false.

The correct statement is "fighting gamers will not pay to play something they can play at home".
Then why are there practically no arcades left in the nation? Why do I have to drive an hour to a run down little place with a bunch of broken-buttoned machines when I used to have 3 full-size fully working arcades (not to mention dozens of liquor or convenience stores) within a 5 mile radius of wherever I lived from about 1981 on, until the point they all started disappearing?

While we're at it, who the fuck are you, where the fuck are you from, and why don't you go back there? "Which has been proven repeatedly false"? What the fuck are you talking about? Are driving game fans searching out arcades to play driving games? No. They are sitting on their couch with their PS3 or 360. Are beat 'em up fans going to arcades? No. They are sitting on their couch with their PS3 or 360. Are shmups fans out looking for arcades and "paying to play"? No, you stupid fucking ignorant twat, they are not. They are sitting on their couch playing their Saturn.

Go hang out in your little internet cafe or whatever, pay to play your stupid little pc games, and stop trying to involve yourself in a discussion you are either too young or too stupid to know anything about.
 

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But point blank, the FG community will not shell out to pay to play.

The hell you say? SSFIVAE is not only sold out in most places that stock the kit, but the people who have them rake in mad cash on a weekly basis. You're out of your fucking mind...



edit: I wanna add something else to this. Another main reason arcades fail hard is the amount of new releases that happen. Yeah, we get a new music game every year or two but that's about it. 2009 AND 2010's lead release company for arcade games in the world was fucking Raw Thrills. Raw Thrills.
 

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People aren't going to Dave and Busters with the sole purpose of seeking out an arcade game. It just happens to be a restaurant with a different atmosphere and a change of pace from the normal. The same people playing Need For Speed at dave and busters could care less about it on location in a normal arcade. They wouldn't go out of their way to find it.
 
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