Super SFIV match thread

I thought I read somewhere that image with the skateboard and roller blades was fake.

Frederick Douglass said:

I thought I read somewhere that image with the skateboard and roller blades was fake.

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• AndriaSang translated the most recent Japanese Super Street Fighter 4 blog, and assistant producer Tomoaki Ayano mentions that some hints about the new characters being added to the game would be provided in next week's blog entry, which will be posted this coming Friday. Also, this image surfaced, which was rumored to be Photoshopped, but actually ended up being legit. It shows a shadowed version of Yun's skateboard and Yang's skates.

From Eventhubs.com

Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard said:

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The real game is on the cover, heh.

Anyway, here's to hoping that Yang doesn't suck balls if he's truly gonna be in the game.

Yun and Yang?

Stupid.

Just play 3s.

IV series engine sucks to much for cool characters. It doesnt seem that difficult for them to slap some shit together. I really hope Urien doesn't get ruined and become the next makoto or guy.

LWK said:

Yun and Yang?

Stupid.

Just play 3s.

IV series engine sucks to much for cool characters. It doesnt seem that difficult for them to slap some shit together. I really hope Urien doesn't get ruined and become the next makoto or guy.

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when is 3S online coming out?!

SSF4 has enough old characters to familiarize people with the product. What it really needs now is a bunch of new characters to define itself as a series.

soilwork said:

SSF4 has enough old characters to familiarize people with the product. What it really needs now is a bunch of new characters to define itself as a series.

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Nah, what it really needs is a tighter reversal window and the removal of dumb shit like plinking to fiend off stupity like godlike reversals and 360's. Game is that more stupid online due to this problem.

Many characters also need entirely new styles.

SSFIV/SFIV cannot survive off entirely new cast. Thats why the first two SFIII's failed so badly. Not enough nostalgia. I think the original new cast wasn't that bad.

I also hate ultra animations and the priority of supers in general. I feel well placed pokes should beat all this shit to prevent 50% life health loss due to someones guessing. I remember in SFIV, Mago didnt even give a shit about taking damage. In essence, you were just giving that dude the comeback ultra he needed, and the fact it has many guarantee's sucked to.

It really sucks just baiting damn near everything in this crud game, only to finally say 'okay, I've programmed him not to guess this time', then you do that overhead on wake up to eat a full ultra. You win anyways, but it gets to a point where its like, you either completely crush someone with rush down or just fake/bait god damn everything. Really juvenile and not rewarding.

LWK said:

Nah, what it really needs is a tighter reversal window and the removal of dumb shit like plinking to fiend off stupity like godlike reversals and 360's. Game is that more stupid online due to this problem.

Many characters also need entirely new styles.

SSFIV/SFIV cannot survive off entirely new cast. Thats why the first two SFIII's failed so badly. Not enough nostalgia. I think the original new cast wasn't that bad.

I also hate ultra animations and the priority of supers in general. I feel well placed pokes should beat all this shit to prevent 50% life health loss due to someones guessing. I remember in SFIV, Mago didnt even give a shit about taking damage. In essence, you were just giving that dude the comeback ultra he needed, and the fact it has many guarantee's sucked to.

It really sucks just baiting damn near everything in this crud game, only to finally say 'okay, I've programmed him not to guess this time', then you do that overhead on wake up to eat a full ultra. You win anyways, but it gets to a point where its like, you either completely crush someone with rush down or just fake/bait god damn everything. Really juvenile and not rewarding.

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I'm not saying it needs a completely new cast. I'm saying it needs more new characters. When you think of 3s, you think of Yun/Yang, Q, Urien, Alex, etc, even though you still have the old staple characters like Ryu/Ken and Chun. Right now Super IV seems to be a 3d Super Turbo with a sprinkle of other familiar faces with only several new characters. I needs fresh faces to distinguish itself from other SF games. I'm not talking about the system - it is what it is and it probably won't change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf2gYE9YAYw&feature=player_embedded

This game has some really stupid hitboxes

soilwork said:

I'm not saying it needs a completely new cast. I'm saying it needs more new characters. When you think of 3s, you think of Yun/Yang, Q, Urien, Alex, etc, even though you still have the old staple characters like Ryu/Ken and Chun. Right now Super IV seems to be a 3d Super Turbo with a sprinkle of other familiar faces with only several new characters. I needs fresh faces to distinguish itself from other SF games. I'm not talking about the system - it is what it is and it probably won't change.

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This game needs less characters if anything due to all the useful gimmick shit to remember. It has a pollution at this point..

Ryan Hart said it best recently when he beat daigo and lost to a rose player 'So Ryan, why'd you lose' "I lost to and alien character" Which is exactly the issue, the time required to know all the matches is insane. That doesn't take into account the few individuals who play incredibly well with gimmick styles, which is a problem to.

SUPER IV is just not good in a memorable way. ST had a unique system to it, where exploits were few and far, and even then you learned who had them and how good they were. (Aside from some bullshit like vega)

SUPER HIV has so many gimmicks to remember ontop of all the solid styles its better not to bother at all unless you have no life. A good example is someone like Balrog. Admittedly to be something special I don't have the heart to keep up. It just feels so free at times it makes me just stop wishing for changes and then going back to games that were good. I'm gonna start doing that actually before I lose interest in fighting games entirely.

I probably won't be bothering with SUPER SFIV TURBO when it lands in a year or so. I hate this series because it has intentionally left in evening factors like more free based reversals to keep scrubs around, because they can occasionally use gimmick to knock better plays off the cabs, and in turn, what this has done is isolate those scrubs from the better ranks, and added a ton of gimmick shit to the better ranks. So many styles are moving away from the awesome turtle footsie styles to the 'next action, guess this' style of rock/paper/scissors/option select.

The quicker this series becomes obsolete, the better off things will be.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/sep/02/yun-and-yang-debut-ssf4-test-site/
It's basically official.
I like Yang, but honestly I am tired of these two (especially Yun) being used in everything. There were so many better III characters to use than Yun and Yang if you ask me.

For me A.E. (arcade edition) isn't about the new additions its about fixing what is there. In all honesty they just have to fix the bottom third of the roster and the game will have a fantastic blend of characters for tournaments. It already does, but (like I said) buff the bottom 8 and you're golden.

Likely next A.E. update will add R mika and another Alpha character. Karin or Rolento would be my pick for the 2nd Alpha character.

If they do go with adding 6 more total they may go a bit wild card with the last two. I wouldn't mind (nay I'd love to see) seeing Eagle and Birdie.

Still obviously digging 4. My friend from home and I have a solid system of getting an hour or so in every night now where we rotate between our 3 best characters and just play loads of matches. He's still a younger player, but his adaptability is some of the best I've ever played against or even seen at this level. If he worked hard he could actually be a top player based on his player reading skills (IMO). It makes for good matches for me because I have to keep adapting past him.

If 3S makes a comeback with the release of the new version I may actually try and get serious with it.

Now if only they'd make a PSN version of GG:AC as well :P

Just bought SSFIV for 360, can't wait to get some online going on, although I haven't played in years and SF people are usually very good.

Also looking forward to 3S, one of my favorites back in the day...It didn't get near as much recognition as it should have.

LWK said:

SUPER HIV

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so awesome

I haven't played this game in forever.

I see Yun laying on the ground

LWK said:

The quicker this series becomes obsolete, the better off things will be.

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I dunno man. I have fun with it. It's not like Alpha 2 or Third Strike are going anywhere. I find it to be a welcome addition to the series, even with its problems.

soilwork said:

I dunno man. I have fun with it. It's not like Alpha 2 or Third Strike are going anywhere. I find it to be a welcome addition to the series, even with its problems.

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There are glaring issues, but to be honest the game is still very fresh and new. SF2 and 3 are so nostalgic that we dare not talk about their issues. Give 4 some time to settle and I think it'll be a welcome addition if you want some friends over for a more casual fighter.

Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard said:

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/sep/02/yun-and-yang-debut-ssf4-test-site/
It's basically official.
I like Yang, but honestly I am tired of these two (especially Yun) being used in everything.

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What else has Yang been used in? Absolutely nothing. He shows up in Yun's supermove in CvS2 and that's about it. He needs more exposure.

LWK said:

The quicker this series becomes obsolete, the better off things will be.

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I cannot wait.

And Poison, can she/he join the cast too?

Ono: Umm, she/he is busy now. :P I'll call to her/him. ;D

pssh whats with you guys wishing death on SFIV, SFIV didn't kill your favorite game.... that game was already dead. with no SFIV we would just be back with nothing, with SFIV at least we have SFIV It's not like we would go back to 2k3 where third strike , cvs2 and marvel were super popular.

XcomplexzX said:

pssh whats with you guys wishing death on SFIV, SFIV didn't kill your favorite game.... that game was already dead. with no SFIV we would just be back with nothing, with SFIV at least we have SFIV It's not like we would go back to 2k3 where third strike , cvs2 and marvel were super popular.

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I guess we could be playing clayfighter TE.

BTW, that actually isn't really true. 3S was very popular here before sfiv ruined that scene. The main reason people play it is because its popular. Same here actually. Its a good game for a ton of comp. When IV dropped, the entire 3S scene got replaced by everyone and their grandmother.

In fact, the entire scene relocated to denjin arcade where dudes like pyro and etc still actively play at top US levels.

Being endlessly optimistic about a shiney subpar game is cool and all, but IV is without a doubt one of my most hated capcom gaming turn arounds ever. Its the biggest dick ride title to make money off of.
I respect CVS2 more then SUPER/IV due to the fact that despite the tiers were fucked up as hell, it had a cool system and I could have seen myself digging that game with time. This shit is something else entirely.

I don't even really consider anything in it to have a true SF feel save for ryu alone. Not many will agree, but I was a st fan myself.

The 3S/CVS2 days were much cooler times then now, where the main goal is personal fame in a game with one of the dumbest engines ever. Its amazing how similar many characters play.

GGS hawking bird

Sorry bout that man. My game frooze on me at the character select screen. Definitely GGs