Think your life is tough? Be glad you're not these guys. [UPDATE #2]

aria

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I've been meaning to post about this for a while.

On Aug 5th, in the deserts of Chile there was a major mine accident. 33 miners were trapped, and --let's face it-- probably going to be found dead.

Well, after weeks of searching and drilling four inch holes here and there to search, they were found. All of them were safe in an emergency room dug into the mine.

33 men in a 600 square foot space, with 90+ degree heat and 90%+ humidity, surviving off of emergency rations and having lost 20lbs each already.

Here's the thing: now they have access to the outside world and vice versa... but it's not like they can just be brought out. They're stuck down there, half a mile down, for at least another month, possible until past Christmas. It would take that long to drill a hole that would still only be able to retrieve one at a time (and very tight at that), and even then there are two miners who are obese --they're hoping the slim down enough in time.

The situation is actually pretty unprecedented. So much so that the Chilean gov't and NASA have teamed up to work out the potential psychological issues that could come up --mostly because this is what NASA had discussed on any potential Mars mission.

So yeah, the whole situation is both terrible and fascinating. There are a lot of interesting bits in this article. At the end I've linked the AP footage from the miners, as well as an article with more footage:

August 26, 2010
Facing Long Mine Rescue, Chile Spares No Expense
By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO

SAN JOSÉ MINE, Chile — The government has consulted NASA about the extreme isolation of space. Chilean Navy officers have come to discuss the emotional stress of living in a submarine. Doctors stand at the ready with antidepressants. Even a tiny home theater is being funneled down in plastic tubes to occupy the 33 miners stuck in their subterranean home.

Chile is sparing no expense or attempted innovation in trying to rescue the miners trapped by a cave-in on Aug. 5, fully aware that the country — and the world — is closely watching the ordeal.

But like everything else being done to maintain the psychological health of the miners over the weeks or months they may remain nearly half a mile underground, officials will carefully control what they are exposed to, down to the messages they receive from their families or the kind of movies that might be projected on the wall of the mine.

“Movies are possible,” said Ximena Matas, a local city councilwoman. “But the psychologists will decide what movies they will see. It’s up to them if something like ‘Avatar’ would be too upsetting.”

No fewer than seven government ministers roam the dusty brown dirt of the makeshift camp outside the mine here in Chile’s Atacama Desert, not to mention the countless politicians, millionaire donors and observers who almost outnumber the family members camping in tents.

With his popularity already slipping, President Sebastián Piñera has staked his nascent presidency on rescuing the miners, and is keeping up a full-court media press that reflects both his background as the billionaire former head of a media empire and the strategy that helped get him elected, analysts said.

“With a conviction that seemed to border on political suicide, the authorities bet all or nothing, and this time the returns will have incalculable reach,” Max Colodro Riesenberg, a professor at the University Adolfo Ibáñez, wrote in a newspaper column this week.

Government officials said they held a teleconference on Wednesday afternoon with five NASA specialists, among them doctors who put astronauts through tests that simulate the grueling isolation of a voyage to Mars.

Dr. Jaime Mañalich, the health minister, said he had urged NASA to send a team to “monitor what we are doing here” and announced Thursday that three or four NASA specialists would arrive in Chile next week to assist medical officials with the miners.

“This is a unique experience,” Dr. Mañalich said.

The miners are in relatively good spirits, officials say, but psychologists are concerned that both the miners and their families may soon suffer from post-traumatic stress once the euphoria wears off from establishing contact on Sunday. Psychologists are coaching family members and the miners on what they should say to each other and are filtering notes before they are sent down to the miners.

“They are giving good advice,” said Margarita Lagos Fuentes, 54, the mother of Claudio Lagos, a 34-year-old miner trapped below. “If they are in hell, why should we make it worse?”

Health workers are organizing a special exercise and recreation program to keep the men fit during their long wait. And they are instructing the miners about the need to distinguish between daytime and nighttime activities. Beyond the immediate 600-square-foot chamber the miners have sought refuge in, there are ample tunnels in which to move around and find a little privacy, mining company officials said.

For days after discovering the miners alive, officials carefully avoided telling them that it could take months to get them out, for the sake of preserving morale. Then on Wednesday, the health minister announced that officials had informed the miners that they would not be rescued before Chile’s Independence Day on Sept. 18 and that “we hoped to get them out before Christmas.”

The miners reacted calmly to the news, Dr. Mañalich, the minister, said. “But we have the impression that in the days to come they are going to suffer from huge challenges regarding their psychological conditions.”

The miners finally got their first solid food on Wednesday afternoon — cereal bars — after four days of liquids. Because of the small size of the borehole, which is only about four inches in diameter, health workers have been struggling to send enough food and liquid, and hoped to be able to provide each miner with 800 calories on Thursday.

Before being discovered, the miners survived on tiny bites of emergency rations and have lost an average of about 20 pounds each. Just outside the borehole, a reporter asked Marcela Zúñiga, a nurse, when the miners would receive their first empanadas, a popular Chilean pastry usually stuffed with meat. “Those are being prepared by a special team in Santiago,” Ms. Zúñiga said.

Short, usually one-page notes from the miners have brought tears and laughter to family members above — like the one Orlando Contreras, 19, the brother of Pedro Contreras, 25, keeps in his wallet — quickly becoming cherished property. The miners have asked family members to send toothbrushes, clean underwear and, usually in jest, comforts like beer, bottles of wine and CDs. Ómar Rojas sent a note to his family asking for a steak and television “to kill the boredom.”

The miners have also been sending their credit and bank cards to family members via the tubes, which are pulled up by a winch. Government officials said they were starting to send them soccer updates and other news.

Psychologists are helping families choose who will make their first verbal communication with the miners on a modified telephone through the borehole, officials and family members said.

Only one family member will be allowed to speak to each miner, for up to five minutes each. A videocamera may also be connected by cable to officials above, allowing family members to see the miners themselves.

The mine has had a history of accidents and was forced to shut down briefly to make safety improvements, but its owners did not carry them out, according to some lawmakers and a risk prevention specialist who worked for the company.

The miners became trapped when two levels above them collapsed, leading them to seek refuge in a shelter about 2,300 feet deep. As the days passed, the nation grew increasingly skeptical that any of the miners had survived — let alone all of them.

Now officials face a new set of questions, including whether to send the miners, many of whom smoke, cigarettes. Ultimately, it was decided that they would be sent nicotine gum instead.

That was just fine with Mrs. Fuentes, the mother of Mr. Lagos. “I’m hoping they come out of there with a more mature attitude,” she said. “Forget about beer and cigarettes.”

Hazards of Long Confinement

Two mine safety experts assess problems that could arise for the trapped miners in Chile.

J. Davitt McAteer is a prominent mine-safety consultant who led the Mine Safety and Health Administration during the Clinton Administration.

His first concern is sanitation: airborne and water contamination, as well as the volume of waste from 33 people over weeks and months in a confined situation. Worse, sickness is bound to occur in a group that large over a long period.

The psychological dynamic could be volatile, especially if miners get sick. Mr. McAteer couldn't recall examples of miners being trapped for more than 25 days; with no industry experience in confinement lasting months, there are no experts on it. To stem anxiety, the miners could organize themselves for their long confinement, emphasizing cooperation and ways to pass the time.

Tony Oppegard is a former Mine Safety and Health Administration official and now a mine safety lawyer.

Mr. Oppegard worries that all of the miners will face post-traumatic stress disorder, no matter the outcome of the rescue efforts. No one, he said, should assume that any miners will emerge in good mental health. Anything that will bring light to the mine will help; other miners have had to dwell in total darkness before their rescues.

Unlike many previous disasters, the Chilean miners have the advantage of contact with the outside world throughout their ordeal. The more, the better, he said, like back-and-forth letters between miners and their families and friends, and photos of them.

The miners:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RquT9thZ34o

More footage:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/27/video-messages-from-trapped-chilean-miners/
 

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I've been hearing about this all week on npr. I just don't understand how they're all still alive...I hope they hurry up the drilling process.

Seems like a fantastic weight loss program though...maybe I should look into it.
 

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I've been hearing about this all week on npr. I just don't understand how they're all still alive...I hope they hurry up the drilling process.

Seems like a fantastic weight loss program though...maybe I should look into it.

It's crazy that they have to debate about whether or not to even tell the miners that it might take months. I can understand their concern, but dang. They're also being careful to review all notes from family before their sent down, and also coaching the families on what to do/write. I know they told them to keep all contact to one individual, to make things easier.

I'd be most worried about one of the 33 turning batty. Then you'd have some serious issues.

This is much more compelling then that damn "Devil"/elevator movie.
 

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Damn. Christmas is a long wait in 90% humidity & 90 Fahrenheit. In the meanwhile might as well go for 1,000,000,000 bottles of beer on the wall.
 

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I have been following the news about this and the guys down there know they even had a small cam lowered down so they could make some footage.
The thing that struck me with stupidity is why those morons(the geniuses taking care of the problem)found out yesterday that it might take at least a month less if they widen the shaft that is already leading down to them instead of digging a new one,what they planned originally.
Geez,ya think,idiots?
They will be home for christmas if it goes well and so far they are keeping themselves busy with some selfmade domino game.
Here is some footage from inside the mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R4T_Rj8ogM
 
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Just saw this at lolkotaku. Seems the miners were given PSPs to help pass the time.
Pretty smart if you ask me.
 

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Just saw this at lolkotaku. Seems the miners were given PSPs to help pass the time.
Pretty smart if you ask me.

While I agree that they should be given every possible amenity, and I do love my PSP, my first thought when I read that was, "So, they're expecting to get them out in the next three or four hours, then?"
 

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I've been hearing about this all week on npr. I just don't understand how they're all still alive...I hope they hurry up the drilling process.

Seems like a fantastic weight loss program though...maybe I should look into it.

I like it.

Hahaha when in doubt, flame your self.
 

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An awful situation. I'd definitely have lost it by now. Good luck to them.
 

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Its so rare that these cases hold any chance of survival, and its good to hear these poor miners will survive.

Hopefully they didn't punch out before the cave-in. That's some mad overtime.
 

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Been hearing about this on the news over here, brave guys for sure and i want to wish them all the best. Hope they get out for the christmas estimate, at the very latest :(
 

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Good job they can be given suppiles, otherwise it will be Andes disaster all over again.
 

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200+ years and we are still relying on deadly black rock and toxic black liquid (for the last 100+) from deep inside the earth and beneath the seas for our energy needs.

Under these unfortunate circumstances this will be a quite amazing experiment in human isolation. Hopefully they are able to get them all out alive.
 

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Under these unfortunate circumstances this will be a quite amazing experiment in human isolation. Hopefully they are able to get them all out alive.

It could be diabolical:

Send down an ice pick and a hammer. When they ask why, explain that they only have room to save three people.

Things will take care of themselves.

If they don't, start pouring water down. They'll get the message.
 

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Is your real name John Kramer? if so make one of your famous tapes and send it down with that scary ass doll. they'll find a way out and i bet it wont take a month.
 

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How long before these guys start blowing each other ?

It's lonely and dark in that cave.
 

aria

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Is your real name John Kramer? if so make one of your famous tapes and send it down with that scary ass doll. they'll find a way out and i bet it wont take a month.

Another scenario:

"Hey, the miners are sending something up. It's a bag?"
"What's in it?"
"66 eyeballs... and a note written in blood: 'liberate tutamae... ex inferis'."
 

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While I agree that they should be given every possible amenity, and I do love my PSP, my first thought when I read that was, "So, they're expecting to get them out in the next three or four hours, then?"

and how are they supposed to recharge them?
 
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