The best way to get rid of RRoD

ratson

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Everyone I know IRL who had an Xbox 360 for longer than two months had to replace their unit at least once.

A working Xbox 360 will be a damn rare piece of kit in 10 or 20 years. But you will most likely still be playing your Neo by then!

Lies.I own 2 and had no problems(yet)One is actually brandnew but the other had a whole lot of gametime and still works just fine.
 

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Look, this is my point (and this is for all the whiners and crybabies — Tak, I consider you to be neither of these :)): yes, the 360 breaks a lot. But whining incessantly about it is just as annoying as it breaking in the first place.
 

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When the UPS Store guys say they see no fewer than two consoles a week get shipped through their location, that's pretty telling.

Baseless. The UPS store guys huh? Where? Who? What location? Are these friends of yours or some close acquaintance? I guess I can pop into the one down the street and ask, but I'd sound like a loon... I'm not sure how you strike up that conversation (or whether or not I'd believe it even if I heard the workers there say it). They're influenced by the same exaggerations that I claim existed in my first post.

Again, I don't doubt there is a higher level of failure rate than normal, but I also can't tell you how many times I've been in a Best Buy and seen a dead PS3 sitting on display along with a handful of 360s. These systems all break down. Wii's fry themselves, burn out their GPU and etc. Sony's die in a similar red-light death. Why doesn't anyone say shit about that? The more complex the system the more likely it is to break down. That doesn't get Microsoft off the hook, but these claims of "every xbox 360 older than two months is going to die," is just ludicrous.
 

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I have a hard time believing that soo many people have had systems fail like this...I own a first gen xbox 360, it has never failed and never had a problem with it. The people I play with,and work with all are in the same boat...out of 15 people 1 ring of death had happened...to be honest on a CD based PC reconstruction...thats pretty good odds.....we arent talking about a NEO GEO or anything here :mr_t:
 

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Baseless. The UPS store guys huh? Where? Who? What location?
Broad River Road location, Columbia, SC. I can look up the street # if you want. :P

I'm not sure how you strike up that conversation
The employee who was assisting me saw the box and asked if it had RRODed on me. The other employees commented that they saw at least one or two per week.

Wii's fry themselves, burn out their GPU and etc. Sony's die in a similar red-light death. Why doesn't anyone say shit about that?
Because the issue isn't so widespread that the companies have had to offer a broad-spectrum warranty extension to account for it. I've never claimed it's happened to every machine. But I'd also be lying if I said I haven't personally observed it in over ten separate machines, not including my own. My first was broken out of the box and had to be replaced. The replacement RRODed and had to be repaired. I personally know at least fifteen individuals who've dealt with it. Sure, it's all anecdotal, but it's simply far too common to discount as pure exaggeration.
 

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All this talk of RRoD hasn't really been relevant for almost 2 years now. If you walk into a store today and buy a new 360, it's very unlikely that it'll fail on you. If you own one of the pre-Jasper 360's and are so worried about the RRoD that the long-ass warrranty isn't enough for you, just sell it and buy one of the newer ones. Get over it already, sheesh.
 

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Deuce is right about the PS3,my buddy has a 60gb launch model with the bc for ps2.When we started playing Midnight club L.A.,the screen would start stottering(or whatever you call it)within 15 minutes due to heat problems.
We put an extra fan on it and the problem was gone.There were more games that had this problem.
Fan of: crappy running games.
Fan on: Games work great.
I know of one guy who seriously got 3 PS3's replaced in 2 years but have to admit he is the only one I know with such big problems.
It's a fact that they both had issues but because there were 10x the amount of 360's sold compared to PS3,it's pretty obvious that the 360 is heard more of when it comes to failure.
 

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All this talk of RRoD hasn't really been relevant for almost 2 years now. If you walk into a store today and buy a new 360, it's very unlikely that it'll fail on you. If you own one of the pre-Jasper 360's and are so worried about the RRoD that the long-ass warrranty isn't enough for you, just sell it and buy one of the newer ones. Get over it already, sheesh.

I want to get a new one, I'm just wary about spending several hundred dollars on a system after my original model (purchased approximately 5 months after launch) suffered catastrophic failure after less than 150 hours (a third which was spent on XBLA games) of play time over a four year time span.
 

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I want to get a new one, I'm just wary about spending several hundred dollars on a system after my original model (purchased approximately 5 months after launch) suffered catastrophic failure after less than 150 hours (a third which was spent on XBLA games) of play time over a four year time span.

You didn't play that very much at all, did you? Maybe it was sad that you never played it and committed suicide :( It is a big US system, after all... It has abandonment and body image issues built in. 150 hours over four years... what is that... like 6 mins a day average?

Jaspers are good, should be a lot quieter and hopefully last you a lot longer... but hey... everyone's mileage seems to vary. I am not too sold on the newest "slim" models yet. For a system notorious for air-flow problems, the last thing I'd do is make the case smaller. Time shall tell all, I guess.
 

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For a system notorious for air-flow problems, the last thing I'd do is make the case smaller.

But the internal components are smaller as well, and generate less heat. There's also the new side vent leading directly to the CPU/GPU. I don't know if you've seen the pics of the new 360 dissected, but one other noticeable improvement is that the DVD drive no longer sits directly on top of the CPU/GPU.

The new 360 seems like a major improvement in just about every way, from a technical standpoint. But as you say, time shall tell.
 

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I think my 360 is a Falcon. I got it for Christmas in 2008 but I know its not a Jasper. It's been pretty good so far, but I always install games before playing them too. And if it does mess up on me, I have a warranty on it so I can just take it back to the store and get another one. Which is helpful in this case because I guess I'd get a new model.
 

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Just checked the elite I have and it is definately a Jasper,wich is good,right?
 

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You didn't play that very much at all, did you? Maybe it was sad that you never played it and committed suicide :( It is a big US system, after all... It has abandonment and body image issues built in. 150 hours over four years... what is that... like 6 mins a day average?

Jaspers are good, should be a lot quieter and hopefully last you a lot longer... but hey... everyone's mileage seems to vary. I am not too sold on the newest "slim" models yet. For a system notorious for air-flow problems, the last thing I'd do is make the case smaller. Time shall tell all, I guess.

I'm just wary of buying a Jasper/Falcon based on what other people have mentioned (specifically that the design was inherently flawed and that the newer revisions simply put band-aids on it), and seeing how badly I was burned last time I bought a new system from them, I feel inclined to wait to see how this one turns out.

Which really sucks, because now I would actually have time to play the damn thing.
 

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Lies.I own 2 and had no problems(yet)One is actually brandnew but the other had a whole lot of gametime and still works just fine.

Really? I have to retract my statement then. Or make it German peer exclusive.

To all my German friends: buy your Xbox 360 in the Netherlands, Dutch Xboxes are less likely to break down :-)
 

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This is going to sound strange but im maybe one of the only people glad that the red ring of dead exists.

I brought a really cheap second hand nicotine stained jet engine sounding xbox 360 because at the time thats all i could afford. The store gave me a 12 month guarantee on it and it red ringed. Took it back for replacment they had no old or second hand units so they gave me a brand new shiny hdmi ported xbox 360 in exchange for the broken one with no cost or moaning.

The new Xbox 360 did red ring itself about a year latter but it got repaired for free and i got xbox live time as compensation the only down side was a 360 less week. It came back and has worked fine ever since...

My 360 gets used all the time though when im not on it my daughters playing kung fu panda on it or my wifes playing mass effect 1 or 2 and its used as the houses main dvd player on the front room tv and hdd player
 

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Baseless. The UPS store guys huh? Where? Who? What location? Are these friends of yours or some close acquaintance? I guess I can pop into the one down the street and ask, but I'd sound like a loon... I'm not sure how you strike up that conversation (or whether or not I'd believe it even if I heard the workers there say it). They're influenced by the same exaggerations that I claim existed in my first post.

Again, I don't doubt there is a higher level of failure rate than normal, but I also can't tell you how many times I've been in a Best Buy and seen a dead PS3 sitting on display along with a handful of 360s. These systems all break down. Wii's fry themselves, burn out their GPU and etc. Sony's die in a similar red-light death. Why doesn't anyone say shit about that? The more complex the system the more likely it is to break down. That doesn't get Microsoft off the hook, but these claims of "every xbox 360 older than two months is going to die," is just ludicrous.

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I never bought a 360. I can only see why you would still bother with the system if you are still getting it fixed for free.

Then again I only have a Wii that hasn't been on in 3 months, maybe it's broken...
 

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:lolz: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/06/21/xbox-360-slim-already-breaking-down/ :lolz:

Don't think the video is "real" but I just found this amusing. It's pretty unlikely that the slim consoles will have too many problems but it's possible someone purposely did something to their new system for publicity? Anyway, I guess watch out for the green dot of death...

Well, two out of the thousands sold so far seems like a pretty good start (assuming those two incidents weren't due to user error or done on purpose for attention).
 

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i have an original revision (xenon) from nov 06 and its fine.
 

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:lolz: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/06/21/xbox-360-slim-already-breaking-down/ :lolz:

Don't think the video is "real" but I just found this amusing. It's pretty unlikely that the slim consoles will have too many problems but it's possible someone purposely did something to their new system for publicity? Anyway, I guess watch out for the green dot of death...

When will Sankaku stop stealing news material and stop with the fucking stupid headlines? 360 slims aren't breaking down, it's just a few reports. It's happened with every console far, but I'm not surprised given how much the original 360 did.
 
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