The best way to get rid of RRoD

Lagduf

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The red dot of death looks like HAL.

That's fucking creepy.
 

Takumaji

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Best way to avoid a red ring or dot of death? Don't buy one of those shabbily engineered consoles, as simple as that.

It's beyond me why some people who had to return their broken boxes five or six times still cling to this shaky piece of equipment. No company should get away with that IMO.
 

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The green is more fitting. It matches the money you're pissing away from buying one to begin with.
 

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Best way to avoid a red ring or dot of death? Don't buy one of those shabbily engineered consoles, as simple as that.

It's beyond me why some people who had to return their broken boxes five or six times still cling to this shaky piece of equipment. No company should get away with that IMO.

Obviously the first couple generations of 360s broke a lot, but you're saying (glibly, but still) that everyone has to go through a lot of hassle all the time on behalf of their Xboxes. That just ain't the case man.

It's not like 360s are the only things that break with heavy use. I'm not defending it, but since repairs are free, it's not that much hassle to put up with.

Besides, this new model probably won't be plagued with the same problems. At least, it better not be... If it is, I'll change my tune in a hurry and agree with you. ;)
 

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Don't worry, it can't red ring, but rest assured you'll still be able to know when your console dies!

How reassuring. It'll be interesting to see what the failure rates of the Slim are in comparison to the current Falcon and Jasper models, or whether it's more of the same in a new shell. I can't buy one without knowing beforehand.

The whole glossy/ipod thing puts me off a bit, though. I constantly have my PS3 (fat 60gb model) covered with a towel to prevent scratches/dust/fingerprints. I'll never understand why companies think this looks attractive.
 

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Best way to avoid a red ring or dot of death? Don't buy one of those shabbily engineered consoles, as simple as that.

It's beyond me why some people who had to return their broken boxes five or six times still cling to this shaky piece of equipment. No company should get away with that IMO.

this.

I kind of want one as I've always hated the amount of noise the original makes, but I resent forking out again for the console they should've sold me 3 years ago.
 

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Obviously the first couple generations of 360s broke a lot, but you're saying (glibly, but still) that everyone has to go through a lot of hassle all the time on behalf of their Xboxes. That just ain't the case man.

It's not like 360s are the only things that break with heavy use. I'm not defending it, but since repairs are free, it's not that much hassle to put up with.

Besides, this new model probably won't be plagued with the same problems. At least, it better not be... If it is, I'll change my tune in a hurry and agree with you. ;)

5 of my friends have bought a 360, none of them still has the same model because they all broke down sooner or later (the 360s, not my friends...). While I agree with you that stuff eventually breaks with heavy use, the frequency is way too high to be normal in this case, and there are tons of examples for 360s that stopped working out of the blue after only a few weeks of normal use.

IMO, the reason why MS seem unable to fix that shit once and for all are several inherent design flaws that make the system as a whole quite unpredictable. For every hole that gets plugged, another one seems to open.

Ah well, let's see how the new revision turns out, getting rid of red leds alone won't cut it, that's for sure...
 

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IMO, the reason why MS seem unable to fix that shit once and for all are several inherent design flaws that make the system as a whole quite unpredictable. For every hole that gets plugged, another one seems to open.

Ah well, let's see how the new revision turns out, getting rid of red leds alone won't cut it, that's for sure...

More so fact than just your opinion. It's a poorly designed system.

But I really think MS has licked the overheating for the most part with recent revisions. It would really boggle the mind if MS didn't learn something from flipping the bill for fixing so many consoles over the past years.

I've been fairly lucky. I had one of the first 360s and that's the only one that has ever RROD'd on me and that wasn't until recently.
 

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Best way to avoid a red ring or dot of death? Don't buy one of those shabbily engineered consoles, as simple as that.

It's beyond me why some people who had to return their broken boxes five or six times still cling to this shaky piece of equipment. No company should get away with that IMO.

Probably cause the games are pretty damn good, the console gets replaced under warranty, and getting your content onto a new device/hd takes all of a few minutes. I don't think they should be applauded for shitty hardware either, but the system has proven to many that it is definitely worth the annoyance.
 

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The whole glossy/ipod thing puts me off a bit, though. I constantly have my PS3 (fat 60gb model) covered with a towel to prevent scratches/dust/fingerprints. I'll never understand why companies think this looks attractive.

you complain about how it looks so you cover it with a towel which both makes it look different and protects how it looks.

what? do you suffer from some kind of ocd? its a videogame console. its not rare, its not special, its not the only one. no one is going to stop being your friend because your ps3 is dusty.
 

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you complain about how it looks so you cover it with a towel which both makes it look different and protects how it looks.

what? do you suffer from some kind of ocd? its a videogame console. its not rare, its not special, its not the only one. no one is going to stop being your friend because your ps3 is dusty.

It's called taking care of your purchases.
 

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Best way to avoid a red ring or dot of death? Don't buy one of those shabbily engineered consoles, as simple as that.

It's beyond me why some people who had to return their broken boxes five or six times still cling to this shaky piece of equipment. No company should get away with that IMO.

I agree wholeheartedly. Just the other day I shipped out my fourth dead system to have it repaired. Honestly, if I weren't still under warranty, I wouldn't even bother getting it repaired at this point.

It's gotten to the point where outside of exclusive titles, I'll be picking up all of my multi-platform releases on the PS3, regardless of if they're slightly inferior or not, just so that I know that five years down the road if I feel like playing a game from this generation I'll actually be able to.
 

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Everyone I know IRL who had an Xbox 360 for longer than two months had to replace their unit at least once.

A working Xbox 360 will be a damn rare piece of kit in 10 or 20 years. But you will most likely still be playing your Neo by then!
 

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Everyone I know IRL who had an Xbox 360 for longer than two months had to replace their unit at least once.

A working Xbox 360 will be a damn rare piece of kit in 10 or 20 years. But you will most likely still be playing your Neo by then!

Yep, that's what really blows my mind about this generation of consoles. In my basement game room I have dozens of 20+ year old consoles that work as well as they did the day I got them, yet I'm waiting to get my fifth 360 in five years time. I have no doubt that ten years from now those same, decades-old consoles I play daily in my game room will work like a charm, but my 360 library will only be worth a damn through emulation at best.
 

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Everyone I know IRL who had an Xbox 360 for longer than two months had to replace their unit at least once.

A working Xbox 360 will be a damn rare piece of kit in 10 or 20 years. But you will most likely still be playing your Neo by then!

I had shirt(-in-a-can)'s 360 for about a year and a half on loan until I finally got my own about a year ago now. His was a launch unit, and sounded like a jet engine droning away in the room, but never gave a hint of a problem. It saw heavy use during the year and a half I had it, and had to live with his younger siblings before that and endure their torture. The unit still works fine, to the best of my knowledge, but he doesn't use it much. My year old 360 is still chugging along, granted it is the latest hardware revision. I know that some revs were definitely more prone to problems than others. None of my friends, save for one, has had any issues with his 360. I know at least a dozen people with 360s... like know them, not chatter with them online... and all of the units have lived healthy and productive lives. The problem is real, I don't doubt that, but I think it's horribly exaggerated in scope.
 

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I think it's horribly exaggerated in scope.

I'd say it's accurate based on personal experiences.

I've personally sent mine in twice.

Known plenty of others who have sent there's in just as much, if not more than me.

Everyone I've know has had their issues fixed for free.

So it's a minor inconvenience at worst.

It's a terrible system yet awesome at the same time.

If it wasn't for the 360 I'd consider this generation a total bust.
 

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If it wasn't for the 360 I'd consider this generation a total bust.

I used to think this too, until I realized that the majority of the games I've played on the 360 are either 1) ported to PS3 or 2) too niche to have developers slugging through Sony's devkit.
 

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The problem is real, I don't doubt that, but I think it's horribly exaggerated in scope.

When the UPS Store guys say they see no fewer than two consoles a week get shipped through their location, that's pretty telling.
 
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