Office US > Office UK

Lagduf · Oct 11, 2009

KanYozakura said:
OMG the quality posts are coming out of the woodwork.

Dinner Party is my favorite episode of the entire series. I've had so many uncomfortable fight standoffs with my blood family that it made Michael and Jan's tiff hit the right buttons for me....they fucking nailed the behavior patterns of a dysfunctional relationship. I especially like when Jan called herself the devil and laughed maniacally, dressed up all in red in front of a roaring bonfire.

It was a funny episode for sure. Aren't Jan and Michael broken up after that though? I like how Michael tricks Jim to coming over and when Jan breaks Michael's TV. It was definitely over the top at some points, but it hearkened back to those really tense, uncomfortable moments in previous episodes.

In what season did Pam go to art school? I really didn't like that. It just felt like they were trying to introduce more tension in to the Jim + Pam thing in order to drive the show. I didn't think it was needed. It was sort of like a slap in the face to the viewers. I mean they're together now, so just fucking have them be together and happy, which is what they've seem to have done since that point thankfully.

Metal Slugnuts · Oct 11, 2009

Lagduf said:
It was a funny episode for sure. Aren't Jan and Michael broken up after that though? I like how Michael tricks Jim to coming over and when Jan breaks Michael's TV. It was definitely over the top at some points, but it hearkened back to those really tense, uncomfortable moments in previous episodes.

In what season did Pam go to art school? I really didn't like that. It just felt like they were trying to introduce more tension in to the Jim + Pam thing in order to drive the show. I didn't think it was needed. It was sort of like a slap in the face to the viewers. I mean they're together now, so just fucking have them be together and happy, which is what they've seem to have done since that point thankfully.

That was the slow period in Season 5 I was talking about earlier. Pam was in art school, there was the lame Andy-Angela-Dwight love triangle and everyone else really didn't do shit.

Then Charles Minor comes along after Xmas break and bitchslaps that mediocrity to the curb.

Like I said, I view the lull as a setup to make Charles all the more menacing and Office-shattering.

Lagduf · Oct 11, 2009

Yeah I liked Charles. He sort of grounded the show back in reality.

Comrade Porn King Mikhail · Oct 11, 2009

Lagduf said:
The problem being with the US Office that they tried to repeat the Jim + Pam storyline with Angela and Andy/Dwight and then too a similar extent with Michael and Holly.

Agreed. They need to stop messing with the relationships and focus more on uncomfortable office moments.

Thanks for the recommendation on Extras, I'll give that a shot. More than anything, I just want absolutely uncomfortable/politically incorrect situations where you start busting up uncontrollably. That happens with a large number of early Office episodes for me. But I just couldn't find that in the UK Office. Laughed at Episode 4's "There was a rape up there" manager/employee acting and same thing for Episode 3's blow-up penis. But still, it just wasn't as much as when similar interactions occur in the first three seasons of the US show.

Sincerely,

Mikhail

"Macho Man" Butta Supremo · Oct 11, 2009

Wedding episode was awesome and I agree would have been a fitting final episode.

While I'll agree season 2 and 3 were the best, the seasons after that have still made me consistently laugh.

Creed is the best character on the show.

Lagduf · Oct 11, 2009

Kiselgof said:
Agreed. They need to stop messing with the relationships and focus more on uncomfortable office moments.

Thanks for the recommendation on Extras, I'll give that a shot. More than anything, I just want absolutely uncomfortable/politically incorrect situations where you start busting up uncontrollably. That happens with a large number of early Office episodes for me. But I just couldn't find that in the UK Office. Laughed at Episode 4's "There was a rape up there" manager/employee acting and same thing for Episode 3's blow-up penis. But still, it just wasn't as much as when similar interactions occur in the first three seasons of the US show.

Sincerely,

Mikhail

A lot of the early office borrows heavily from the UK Office, particularly in terms of the plot. Hell even Michael's hair style in Season 1 is reminiscent of David Brent's. Some of the episodes have the same premise like Diversity Day (or whatever the episode was called.) But as the US Office has gone on it's become less of the US version of the UK office and more of it's own thing. Some like that, some don't.

I think both shows have their merits. I like that the UK Office stops. I wish more shows took approaches like this, or at least had definite arcs (like Heroes tries to do) in the story.

I hate when it feels like a show is just going on to earn $$$ Nothing wrong with a conclusion.

Definitely check out Extras - it is completely hilarious.

Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant's Podcast is also pretty funny. They're teamed up with this other guy who is inadvertently hilarious.

Xian Xi · Oct 11, 2009

I have to fully disagree. UK > US. Ricky is a genius and it shows in the original version.

A lot of the stuff in the US is just rehashed from th UK version. I used to watch the UK office before the US one came out so I didn't find a lot of things funny in the US one. But I do have to say that Rain Wilson plays a perfect idiot/loser.

genjiglove · Oct 11, 2009

butta said:
Creed is the best character on the show.

I laughed my ass off when he's sitting with Angela and Meredith in the break room and Angela storms off mad. Creed says to her "Don't worry about Andrea, shes the office bitch." then introduces himself to Meredith.

Tobey is probably my favorite character though.

Average Joe · Oct 11, 2009

Definitely needs to be more Creed moments.

Him trying to remember his job title after Holly asked him what he did there in season 5 was probably my favorite moment.

The Dark Knight Joker costume was brilliant too.

Lagduf · Oct 11, 2009

K9999 said:
Definitely needs to be more Creed moments.

Him trying to remember his job title after Holly asked him what he did there in season 5 was probably my favorite moment.

The Dark Knight Joker costume was brilliant too.

The Quality Assurance episode is hilarious.

We need more talking head Creed moments.

I like when he meets the guy who wrote his Obituary.

SonGohan · Oct 11, 2009

I like when Creed was blogging in Word thinking it was going on the internet

genjiglove · Oct 11, 2009

"That wasn't a tapeworm."

OrochiEddie · Oct 11, 2009

I've made my bitch piece about this show a few times here so I'll be brief.

Steve Carell is probably one of the most unfunny people ever. All his recent work just stems from the Will Farel style of obnoxious ass hatery. He really screws a lot of the jokes and makes you scratch your head.

The first three seasons of the US Office were wretched and painful. Watching American actors try and perform the sharp dry wit of the UK version was rough. The show took off during the 4th season where they gave up the delusion that they could pull that off and just went on a stupid streak and never quit.

Jim and Pam are both relatively unlikable people, but are given the staring role way too much. Jim is just a prick.

Andy is a stupid fuck, but for the most part delivers in most ways.
STanley is probably my favorite character and probably the best designed despite his lack of time on air.

I could care less about the rest of the cast.

Metal Slugnuts · Oct 11, 2009

OrochiEddie said:
I've made my bitch piece about this show a few times here so I'll be brief.

Steve Carell is probably one of the most unfunny people ever. All his recent work just stems from the Will Farel style of obnoxious ass hatery. He really screws a lot of the jokes and makes you scratch your head.

That's the whole point of the Michael Scott character though: he tries to mimic comedy he finds hilarious only to screw up the delivery or offend/annoy everyone. He tries too hard to be funny due to his insecurities about lonliness/acceptance and almost always screws the pooch.

Wes said:
I like when Creed was blogging in Word thinking it was going on the internet

The site isn't loading correctly on my comp but there's an actual Creed Thoughts blog on the NBC site:
http://blog.nbc.com/CreedThoughts/

EDIT: On my comp I can scroll down past the fucked up page layout to see the actual blog content. It might just be my browser though. :scratch:

"Macho Man" Butta Supremo · Oct 11, 2009

www.creedthoughts.gov.www/creedthoughts

OrochiEddie said:
I've made my bitch piece about this show a few times here so I'll be brief.

This post makes me think you barely watch the show.

Kid Aphex · Oct 11, 2009

so many wrong opinions on one thread.

Lagduf · Oct 11, 2009

the usual cryptic kid a response.

Kid Aphex · Oct 11, 2009

OrochiEddie said:
I've made my bitch piece about this show a few times here so I'll be brief.

Steve Carell is probably one of the most unfunny people ever. All his recent work just stems from the Will Farel style of obnoxious ass hatery. He really screws a lot of the jokes and makes you scratch your head.

The first three seasons of the US Office were wretched and painful. Watching American actors try and perform the sharp dry wit of the UK version was rough. The show took off during the 4th season where they gave up the delusion that they could pull that off and just went on a stupid streak and never quit.

Jim and Pam are both relatively unlikable people, but are given the staring role way too much. Jim is just a prick.

Andy is a stupid fuck, but for the most part delivers in most ways.
STanley is probably my favorite character and probably the best designed despite his lack of time on air.

I could care less about the rest of the cast.

boy, you sound so upset and angry.

Kid Aphex · Oct 11, 2009

for quite a while i thought the show should've ended with season 3, where jim returns to scranton and interrupts one of pams talking-head interviews. "I'm sorry---what was the question?", with tears in her eyes. a fitting end, considering the show's introduction of the "talking-head" segments into the zeitgeist. plus, im the type of person who prefers open-ended finales.

without participating in any of this thread's goofy chest-beating, i will definitely admit that i disliked the fourth season while it was on the air---then grew to enjoy it on dvd. same thing has just happened with the fifth season, which i couldn't stand on-air but have watched several times over since its release on dvd...er, netflix.

Average Joe · Oct 11, 2009

I have thing for Jenna Fischer.

OMFG · Oct 11, 2009

The US show doesn't grab me nor can I stand watching it for long. Maybe it's because I can't stand Rainn Wilson nor can I stand the whole Pam and Jim thing that my former roommates used to talk about (all the fucking time). To me, the UK show was great because it ends. The US version just seems to go on forever. The US version just never grabbed me.

Christ, nothing like running into douche bags with the damn intro song as their ring tone.

Lagduf · Oct 11, 2009

K9999 said:
I have thing for Jenna Fischer.

Agreed there pal.

J. Max · Oct 11, 2009

KanYozakura said:
That was the slow period in Season 5 I was talking about earlier. Pam was in art school, there was the lame Andy-Angela-Dwight love triangle and everyone else really didn't do shit.

I'm not sure about this, but I think Pam going to art school was necessary because she (Jenna Fischer) was filming a movie at the time and they filmed all of her scenes later. (Possibly "Walk Hard"?)

genjiglove · Oct 11, 2009

K9999 said:
I have thing for Jenna Fischer.

Shes no Rashida Jones.

Kid Aphex · Oct 11, 2009

so weird when i hear people like pam/jenna. she just grosses me out.

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