Movie director Roman Polanski arrested in Switzerland for 31-year-old charge

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She was drugged?

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Sex crime conviction
In 1977, Polanski, then aged 44, became embroiled in a scandal involving 13-year-old Samantha Gailey (now known as Samantha Geimer). It ultimately led to Polanski's guilty plea to the charge of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.[26]

According to Geimer, Polanski asked Geimer's mother if he could photograph the girl for the French edition of Vogue, which Polanski had been invited to guest-edit. Her mother allowed a private photo shoot. According to Geimer in a 2003 interview, "Everything was going fine; then he asked me to change, well, in front of him." She added, "It didn't feel right, and I didn't want to go back to the second shoot."

Geimer later agreed to a second session, which took place on March 10, 1977 at the Mulholland area home of actor Jack Nicholson in Los Angeles. "We did photos with me drinking champagne," Geimer says. "Toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized he had other intentions and I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn't quite know how to get myself out of there." She recalled in a 2003 interview that she began to feel uncomfortable after he asked her to lie down on a bed, and how she attempted to resist. "I said, ‘No, no. I don’t want to go in there. No, I don’t want to do this. No!", and then I didn’t know what else to do,” she stated.[27]

Geimer testified that Polanski performed various sexual acts on her[28][29][30] after giving her a combination of champagne and quaaludes.[31]

Charges and guilty plea
Polanski was initially charged[32] with rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance (methaqualone) to a minor. These charges were dismissed under the terms of his plea bargain, and he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.[33]

Following the plea agreement, according to the documentary Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired, the court ordered Polanski to report to a state prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation, but granted a stay of ninety days to allow him to complete his current project. Under the terms set by the court, he was permitted to travel abroad. Polanski returned to California and reported to Chino State Prison for the evaluation period, and was released after 42 days. On February 1, 1978, Polanski fled to London, where he maintained residency. A day later he traveled on to France, where he held citizenship, avoiding the risk of extradition to the U.S. by Britain. Consistent with its extradition treaty with the United States, France can refuse to extradite its own citizens. An extradition request later filed by U.S. officials was denied. The United States government can request that Polanski be prosecuted on the California charges by the French authorities.[34]

Polanski has never returned to England, and later sold his home in absentia. The United States can still request the arrest and extradition of Polanski from other countries should he visit them, and Polanski has avoided visits to countries that are likely to extradite him (such as the UK) and mostly travels and works in France, Germany, the Czech Republic and Poland.

In a 2003 interview,[35] Samantha Geimer said, "Straight up, what he did to me was wrong. But I wish he would return to America so the whole ordeal can be put to rest for both of us." Furthermore, "I'm sure if he could go back, he wouldn't do it again. He made a terrible mistake but he's paid for it".

In 2008, Geimer stated in an interview that she wishes Polanski would be forgiven, "I think he's sorry, I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he's a danger to society. I don't think he needs to be locked up forever and no one has ever come out ever - besides me - and accused him of anything. It was 30 years ago now. It's an unpleasant memory ... (but) I can live with it."[36]

In 2008, a documentary film of the aftermath of the incident, Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired, premiered at the Sundance Film Festival. Following review of the film, Polanski's attorney, Douglas Dalton, contacted the Los Angeles district attorney's office about prosecutor David Wells' role in coaching judge Rittenband. Based on statements by Wells included in the film, Polanski and Dalton are seeking review of whether the prosecutor acted illegally and engaged in malfeasance in interfering with the operation of the trial.[37]

In December 2008, Polanski's lawyer in the United States filed a request to Judge David S. Wesley to have the case dismissed on the grounds of judicial and prosecutorial misconduct. The filing says that Judge Rittenband (now deceased) violated the plea bargain by keeping in communication about the case with a deputy district attorney who was not involved. These activities were depicted in Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired.[38]

In January 2009, Polanski's lawyer filed a further request to have the case dismissed, and to have the case moved out of Los Angeles, as the Los Angeles courts require him to appear before the court for any sentencing or dismissal, and Polanski will not appear. In February 2009, Polanski's request was tentatively denied by Judge Peter Espinoza, who said that he would make a ruling if Polanski appeared in court.[39][40]

That same month, Samantha Geimer filed to have the charges against Polanski dismissed from court, saying that decades of publicity as well as the prosecutor's focus on lurid details continues to traumatize her and her family.[41]
 

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She was drugged?

Did you notice that the prosecutor dropped those charges in his plea bargain? From my own experience with prosecutors, they only drop bullshit charges, and everything that they can prove they go after regardless.

Whatever Polanski did do, the girl has managed to milk attention from for years. She can say she wishes it would end, but if she wanted that, wholeheartedly, she could just stop talking to the media about it.

Rape and minors is a very sensitive subject, and I guess, like dog fighting, people get up in arms quickly before they really look at the situation.
 

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Did you notice that the prosecutor dropped those charges in his plea bargain? From my own experience with prosecutors, they only drop bullshit charges, and everything that they can prove they go after regardless.

Whatever Polanski did do, the girl has managed to milk attention from for years. She can say she wishes it would end, but if she wanted that, wholeheartedly, she could just stop talking to the media about it.

Rape and minors is a very sensitive subject, and I guess, like dog fighting, people get up in arms quickly before they really look at the situation.

Your also making assumptions that the girl wanted to milk it for years or the drug charges were bullshit. Just because the charges were dropped, doesn't mean it didn't happen. How many countless celebrities have been given lessor sentences?

If you really want to be technical, no one except Roman Pilanski and the girl will ever know what really happened that day at the second photo shoot. But why would he skip town if he only had to serve 40-45 extra days? Just like Bobak mentioned, it's not like he was going to the gas chamber. He should of finished his sentence and started his journey of clearing his record, not running like a coward.

I would think someone like Polanski with half a brain deciding to flea the US over finishing his small sentence is just plain stupid.
 
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Your also making a both of assumptions that the girl wanted to milk it for years or the drug charges were bullshit. Just because the charges were dropped, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

If you really want to be technical, no one except Roman Pilanski and the girl will ever know what really happened that day at the second photo shoot. But why would he skip town if he only had to serve 40-45 extra days?

I would think someone like Polanski with half a brain deciding to flea the US over finishing his small sentence is just plain stupid.

I agree that just because the charges were dropped doesn't mean that they didn't happen, but I add that just because the charges were ever made doesn't mean they ever held any water. I can turn a mild mannered witness on the stand into a pedophile if you give me 30 minutes of questioning. Doesn't mean the guy was actually a pedophile, but law can be an incredible art form like that..

There's three sides to every story - his side, her side, and the troof. The whole thing about not serving the sentence could be just Polanski's pride vs. the incompetence of the California judicial system. But really that takes too much ESP for me to divine.
 

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Oh and for the record, this has to be patently false.

No one ever willingly agrees with me.

Maybe it's statuatory agreement. Did you drug him?

If he's guilty, he should do the time he would have been sentenced to back then. I'd say that he shouldn't be registered to the public as a sex offender except for that:

A.) I don't know if sex offender registration for public information existed back then or not. If it did, he should.

B.) It doesn't matter because everyone knows he did it.
 

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Maybe it's statuatory agreement. Did you drug him?

If he's guilty, he should do the time he would have been sentenced to back then. I'd say that he shouldn't be registered to the public as a sex offender except for that:

A.) I don't know if sex offender registration for public information existed back then or not. If it did, he should.

B.) It doesn't matter because everyone knows he did it.

You're right in that you can't have ex post facto sentencing. He'd just have to serve his time in jail, which looks like the sentence for a repeat DUI offender more than a rapist.
 

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I just love the fact that Jack Nicolson and Anjelica Houston were married at one point, and it happened at their house.
That's what I learned today, too (although according to the article, they were not married). I had no idea they ever dated.
 

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Charlie,

I usually agree with you on most things, but what if you had a daughter (not sure if you actually do) was molested by Polanski? Would your opinion be the same? The girl wants the charges dropped because she was paid off. Though they say time can heal all wounds, it shouldn't be accepetable for someone that seduced and took advantage of a young girl.

This isn't about the girl anymore (assuming it ever was).

It's a highly publicized moral crusade that gets plastered all over the media for a number of reasons; more often than not it's for diverting public attention from government ineptitude or a crooked police dept or whatever. They bring these cases up when they NEED to.


It's like the Michael Vick case....nobody REALLY gives a fuck about the pitbulls. They only feigned outrage so nobody would object (or notice) when they cleaned him out...

Of those millions they took, how much do you think went towards helping abused animals out afterwards? None lol.
 

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This isn't about the girl anymore (assuming it ever was).

It's a highly publicized moral crusade that gets plastered all over the media for a number of reasons; more often than not it's for diverting public attention from government ineptitude or a crooked police dept or whatever. They bring these cases up when they NEED to.


It's like the Michael Vick case....nobody REALLY gives a fuck about the pitbulls. They only feigned outrage so nobody would object (or notice) when they cleaned him out...

Of those millions they took, how much do you think went towards helping abused animals out afterwards? None lol.

Well I can't comment on what money if any they took from Michael Vick since alot of it was endorsement and contract money that was pulled away once he was convicted. Not to mention just about all athletes have some type of morality clause that can get their contracts pulled without warning at the first sign of bad publicity.

As for Michael Vick, let's not rewrite history, Michael Vick was more then just the money person. He also was given a lessor charge and not nailed with gambling since that's the one Pandora's box that nobody wants to open in Sports.
 
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just because she didn't sleep with you doesn't mean she didn't get what she wanted.

Well that's also making another assumption that she was wanting it. Not like the drugs and Alcohol had anything to do with Roman having her way with her. Then again, no one was there but the two of them so we could speculate all day what happened.
 

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Leaving aside the question of whether this should be pursued at this late date, anyone who purposely chooses never to watch Chinatown is a fucking idiot. The end.
 

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Well that's also making another assumption that she was wanting it. Not like the drugs and Alcohol had anything to do with Roman having her way with her. Then again, no one was there but the two of them so we could speculate all day what happened.

Exactly. No one but those two know what really happened, and all people have done since is speculate, speculating based on '70s technology. We all have very active imaginations when the right buttons are pushed, and anyone with kids would find these buttons just right to help them paint the rest of the picture.

In the end, I assume that Polanski fucked the girl, probably put it in her butt too. Then maybe put it in her mouth. Not sure what sex was like in the '70s but A2M seems standard Euro pervert these days. But the crime is old as shit, and 45 days in jail is a joke. It's not like he'd get butt banged back then, much less now. 45 days in jail you sit around watching court tv with a bunch of people like us.

It's just hard to take this seriously. And the fact that people blow these things out of proportion is what makes things worse. This now ethically worthless case will be the stool upon which some worthless attorneys and officials shall use to rise up, beyond whatever pile of shit they have shat around themselves.
 

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sup guys did someone say Ninth Gate starring johnny depp
 

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guys it's pretty obvious the chick was Satan I mean c'mon
 

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aarrgh! 14 more.


Wait, are you talking about the chick in Ninth Gate or the one who youknowyouknow with Polanski?
 
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