Got a Nightmare in the Dark boot from Macck.

ForeverSublime

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mmsadda said:
Macck definitely owes him a refund.... but it seems like the issue here is who pays shipping costs. Is there any rule regarding that?
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Yes. If the seller entered into the agreement fraudulently or with the intent to deceive then the seller is responsible for *all* costs.

If this was sold on ebay.br, and boots are not allowed, then circumventing the listing rules to get it sold doesn't make the sale allowed in the first place. Even so, the information could have been disclosed after the end of the auction and before payment was sent. The seller is completely in the wrong.

Furthermore, since ebay has a paper trail of this auction as it was removed twice for listing infractions their customer service and fraud prevention department would clearly side with the buyer. There's no reason to stop at the money. Metalizer may as well get the seller's auction identity banned by contacting ebay with the information about the product coupled with the information that the item was previously removed. Ebay and its users would like this ban to maintain the integrity of the site.
 
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ForeverSublime said:
Yes. If the seller entered into the agreement fraudulently or with the intent to deceive then the seller is responsible for *all* costs.

If this was sold on ebay.br, and boots are not allowed, then circumventing the listing rules to get it sold doesn't make the sale allowed in the first place. Even so, the information could have been disclosed after the end of the auction and before payment was sent. The seller is completely in the wrong.

Furthermore, since ebay has a paper trail of this auction as it was removed twice for listing infractions their customer service and fraud prevention department would clearly side with the buyer. There's no reason to stop at the money. Metalizer may as well get the seller's auction identity banned by contacting ebay with the information about the product coupled with the information that the item was previously removed. Ebay and its users would like this ban to maintain the integrity of the site.
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Macck:

You always seemed like a great modder and a first-class member of the forums. This debaucle has already made you look bad, but it will further tarnish your reputation if you don't just offer the refund + shipping. I urge you to consider the potential consequences that could result over a very small sum of money.
 
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Guys,i know Macck more than 2 years.I've bought a lot of stuffs with him and i never had an problem.the values surpass 2.000 usd.i saw this post some days ago and i be very surprise with all this.i talk with him in the msn about all this.well,he said that i can buy the cart and finish this problem.so,he agree that i pay the total value for Mettalizer(62 reais).i don't think that all this is fair.but,for best i buy the cart.Metallizer,please,send me your bank account for i can do your payment and there,you send me the game,ok?

I know Macck,but i don't know Metallizer.but Sr.WilalvesBr i know and unfortunately,i don't have goods references.he has been banish for all the comunities of games of Brazil,including foruns.

First observation:Metallizer,you REALLY don't' know,analyzin the price and the picture of the cart that was an pirate game?sorry for what i will said but...likes more that you and Sr.WilalvesBr want to suck Macck.if is not,sorry.i will believe in your inocence.but,in the next,all the peoples form the forum are looking in every negotiation of both of you.

Second observation:for all the people here maybe don't' know,but Macck and Sr.WilalvesBr are mortal enemies in the neo geo brazilian market.for all the posts that i been reading..well,shows an little finger for him...very strange...

well,i hope that this can be resolve fast.
 
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the_watcher said:
Guys,i know Macck more than 2 years.I've bought a lot of stuffs with him and i never had an problem.the values surpass 2.000 usd.i saw this post some days ago and i be very surprise with all this.i talk with him in the msn about all this.well,he said that i can buy the cart and finish this problem.so,he agree that i pay the total value for Mettalizer(62 reais).i don't think that all this is fair.but,for best i buy the cart.Metallizer,please,send me your bank account for i can do your payment and there,you send me the game,ok?
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It won't change the fact that your beloved friend tried to pass a bootleg cart to one of the oldest brazilian neo-geo.com member.

It also won't change the fact that your friend lies when says that he didn't know the cart was a bootleg (there's a entire thread about that to prove).


Are you that desperate to save your friend reputation or you're just trying to get your hands on that cart?

the_watcher said:
I know Macck,but i don't know Metallizer.but Sr.WilalvesBr i know and unfortunately,i don't have goods references.he has been banish for all the comunities of games of Brazil,including foruns.
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I know that you're trying to help your friend but attacking me won't help him by any means.

But now that you said all those things, let them all know which communities and what forums i have been banned and why (i'm also curious about that).
 
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ohh, the cospirancy theory,

yeah, we planned the outcome of this thread and anticipated all mackk actions using a time machine. :emb:

anyway, I gave him a link to this thread I found recently, let´s see if he still wants the cart knowing it´s trash.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2701956

damn, I´m a terrible boot seller.
 
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lolz @ Brazil wars...

Metal, offer is genuine if you still need to move the NITD cart, I'd post the cart
pics of the destroyed boards... I have to test drive a mini chainsaw I've bought
for some murdering next weekend.

The high price on the cart in the guide I suspect takes
into account the Billd deal from a few years back.

The "teh" replacing "the" and subsequent cut of this is a tell tale and on these carts, look for the serial #.
Among other "uncommon" / "rare" the seller should be providing board pics, the buyer insistant on this before any sale moves forward if serious.

No MVS seller/buyer should be without a screwdriver
(chainsaw optional.)

For future ref on NITD use Dannywhac's cart ID site here:http://www.zen96737.zen.co.uk/nightmare_in_the_dark.htm


LMK
 
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Xian Xi said:
Has this been taken care of yet?
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No, I was about to update this thread since has been a week since I accepted the offer from macck´s friend but nothing happened. No money, no answer for the email I sent him.

I´ll give him one more week to set this straight, if nothing happens I´ll take it to the next level.
 
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Just thought I'd chime in with my 2 cents.

I believe it's common sense when dealing with an arcade operator selling on eBay that you have to assume a cart is a boot if it's rare, high demand game going for 50% and less market value with a repro label on eBay. If you bid on, say, a $40 Neo Mr. Do!, you have to accept the fact that it is a $40 gamble.

However, if it's a Neo member selling on eBay, there is no excuse for them to not disclose the cart as non-SNK authentic, or 100% working "non original" cart.

It seems especially lame and hypocritical in this case, since he made such a stink about how disappointing it was when he received the cart and found out it was a boot.

His lie, his loss. Should refund full amount including return shipping. If I saw a Neo member selling on eBay, I'd take that as assurance that I wasn't getting a boot. I really don't understand his BS comment about how you should have done a thorough background check on all his posts before bidding on his cart to see what he's bought and sold himself. I've never dealt with this guy before, but his low morals have sealed the deal that I sure won't ever be dealing with him in the future.
 
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metallizer said:
No, I was about to update this thread since has been a week since I accepted the offer from macck´s friend but nothing happened. No money, no answer for the email I sent him.

I´ll give him one more week to set this straight, if nothing happens I´ll take it to the next level.
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Whoa Macck watch out. It's time to find out who's the real Capoeira Mestre.
 
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Payment's' done!!!!

Yo Metallizer.your payment has been sent.i pass an email for you right now,includding my adress.afetr recieve the money and send the game,please,send me the traking number of the shippment.i think i don't' need to post the confirmation payment of the bank accont here,so.it's' done and this threat over,right?
 
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metallizer said:
and yes, an arrangement can be made for the item destruction, but I would personally prefer to try to make a ghostlop out of it since it´s is something that is in my mind for some time.
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$20 is not a bad deal for Ghostlop parts. IF it's the right kind of bootleg to make one. (Original SNK boards?) Keep it and do that.
 
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ended.

Well friends,this is the picture of the so comented-hatred-m.f cart nightmare in the dark.Metallizer send the game and the the confirmation is here.so,ended of the threat.

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ps:good game.
 
Xian Xi

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Ya because you buying a bootleg off an unknowing customer makes what your friend did justified.
 
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I got the delivery confirmation receipt today.

well, it ended but not the way i wanted it to end.

macck still wont admit he did anything wrong.

at least I dont have that broken bootleg cart anymore.

ps: don´t try to sell it :shame:
 
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Macck doesn't have to admit to any wrongdoing, the proof is already here. I'm sure his forum deals will suffer, I know I wouldn't do business with him. $20 bucks to save your reputation? A drop in the bucket compared to the amount he will probably lose out on. Glad to see your situation is resolved though.
 
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WilalvesBR said:
But now that you said all those things, let them all know which communities and what forums i have been banned and why (i'm also curious about that).
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I'm curious about this bullshit too. Slander the folks standing up for what is right is a stupid defense.

I for one have had good transactions with WilalvesBR and will go on the record for it. He's a class act in my book.
 
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Wow, what on earth happened here? I never thought that Macck of all people on here would scam somebody... :oh_no:

Hopefully Macck will still make good on this. :)
 
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