Michael Jackson, the man..ish, the memorial
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The atmosphere is lighter in here, at my expense.
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He had a few songs I liked, but by and large I fucking hate pop music. Outside of Jackson, if you like listening to talentless hacks who've been marketed so well people believe they really do have talent, by all means knock yourself out.
On another note if we want to start going down the road Jedah and a few others think is a good idea to travel down, we can start excusing bad behavior out there as long as you were talented or did some things a lot of people liked or thought was a good idea at one time.
Hey what the fuck I can play this game too! Hitler did some good things for Germany...sure he gassed 6 million Jews, ignited the Western world into another world war causing untold numbers of deaths, but what the fuck, he built the autobahn, got Volkswagen going, and pulled Germany out of their economic depression by putting people to work albeit for military purposes. That kicks up his standing a few notches
On another note if we want to start going down the road Jedah and a few others think is a good idea to travel down, we can start excusing bad behavior out there as long as you were talented or did some things a lot of people liked or thought was a good idea at one time.
Hey what the fuck I can play this game too! Hitler did some good things for Germany...sure he gassed 6 million Jews, ignited the Western world into another world war causing untold numbers of deaths, but what the fuck, he built the autobahn, got Volkswagen going, and pulled Germany out of their economic depression by putting people to work albeit for military purposes. That kicks up his standing a few notches
dullbuoy
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and most probably wouldn't have been eager to go and see his final tour either, but death makes people big fans again.
what hasn't been talked about that much is what will happen to his kids now? maybe they could live with their rich auntie Janet. they're in for a big lifestyle change.
Jedah Doma
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The guy could have raped baby seals, it still doesn't change the impact he had on music. There's no changing history, whether it be his music or his personal life.
What can be proven is his impact on music.
As you said, if he did those things, Michael Jackson, as a person, will be viewed differently. As a musical artist, he will always be remembered for what he did. Today I choose to remember him for the good he did. I'll let those who write history sort out what is fact, fiction, right, or wrong about his personal life.
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Now that's just mean! Funny as hell but mean
It's unfortunate that Michael Jackson's life doesn't have a dip switch mode so he could go on living with FREE PLAY.
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I wonder if the news of this made him laugh like Iori, since they were enemies and all.
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I don't think that many people are THAT sad about his passing or actually absolving him from responsibility. I was always angry at MJ ever since that interview where he denied having plastic surgery. The guy was really in his own pathological nightmare, doing anything he wanted to do and trying to escape reality much of the time.
People are more putting him on a pedestal because of what he did in his prime, and looking on the bright side of his life. He did have an incredibly positive impact on a lot of people. What's really sad is that he could have done much better things with his fame and fortune, even for himself. Do you think he made himself happy? I think he made himself miserable doing the shit he did.
As for the child molestation allegations, I always suspected that he was just weird around the kids, and that made it easy to take advantage of him. Maybe he did it, but I never heard any compelling evidence that made me think he MUST have done it. Therefore, I'm wary of condemning him over that.
People are more putting him on a pedestal because of what he did in his prime, and looking on the bright side of his life. He did have an incredibly positive impact on a lot of people. What's really sad is that he could have done much better things with his fame and fortune, even for himself. Do you think he made himself happy? I think he made himself miserable doing the shit he did.
As for the child molestation allegations, I always suspected that he was just weird around the kids, and that made it easy to take advantage of him. Maybe he did it, but I never heard any compelling evidence that made me think he MUST have done it. Therefore, I'm wary of condemning him over that.
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this thread is gonna become the longest in history... thats some tribute right there.
one more thing before I retreat from this silly shit tho...
a mate sent me a message yesterday which made me lol:
Dude, MJ just died... that's such a shame, he was only 12
one more thing before I retreat from this silly shit tho...
a mate sent me a message yesterday which made me lol:
Dude, MJ just died... that's such a shame, he was only 12
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I have to admit the first thing I thought of when I heard this is what killed him was wondering how great he must have felt before his heart stopped.
Godwin's law FTW.
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I think a lot of us are right there with you. But you have to at least not hide from the possibility that it happened. What we do know is that he had little kids sleep over at his house unsupervised by their parents (or anyone). We do know that whatever might or might not have happened, after he got in legal trouble because of it, he was not able to control his own behavior and not put himself in the same position again, despite how he knew it would look. This inability to rein himself in (in spite of his own best interests) is a huge danger sign -- the kind you see in serial killers and serial rapists.
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You know...his death has effected me more than I thought it would.
It's not so much his passing as I feel he became a freak after the early 90's and I viewed him as a sad wreck of what was once MJ...I guess it's the passing of something I've always had in my life. Michael Jackson really is the Elvis or Beetles of my generation. He's always been there, on TV, in the videos, on the airwaves. I grew up watching his videos on MTV...
It's strange.
It's not so much his passing as I feel he became a freak after the early 90's and I viewed him as a sad wreck of what was once MJ...I guess it's the passing of something I've always had in my life. Michael Jackson really is the Elvis or Beetles of my generation. He's always been there, on TV, in the videos, on the airwaves. I grew up watching his videos on MTV...
It's strange.
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This sentiment has been thrown around so much in this thread. So, Smuf or anybody else who shares this opinion, why?
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And in the case of Famicommander, you're guilty until CNN, Fox News, and CBS proves you innocent.
Or perhaps when you go on national television to give an interview and insist to the reporter that "sleeping with a young boy is showing love".
That interview he gave was honestly disturbing to me. I was looking at a guy who truly seemed to have little grasp on reality. It was like he was speaking from a dream world.
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lol damn Abs, did he diddle you or something?
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Michael Jackson's concerts were amazing! I think he's way better live than in studio albums, but I do like the J5 stuff better on studio than live. MJ's concerts were on the same vein with John Lennon, Bee Gees, Chicago, EW&F, stuff like that, the music was arranged so different from studio that it sounded way richer than it was originally inteded to be.
Dude, I can probably say that the last time I saw a recent video (within 4 to 5 years old) of MJ live was less than a year ago and I really like it.
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Because crime is bad only when it happens to you, right?
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No kidding. You have at least one kid, right Kan? Would you let her/him sleep with a creepy guy in his forties, who insists that's showing love? Of course not. If you even suspected shit like that, you wouldn't let your kid go over there. Give me a break.