Michael Jackson, the man..ish, the memorial

neo_mao

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Just realized that Thriller was the first record I ever got...geez, i must have been like 5.

I think i got it at the same time as I got a He-man book w/ play along record.
 

jro

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So when you die I shouldn't absolve you for buying 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand on release?

Goddamn right, I am fully aware that I'm going to hell for that one and that I'll have a demerit on my urn in red letters.

edit: @'snausage: I actually have nothing but bad to say about it, pretty much, due to the major glitches that royally fucked up my playthrough on hard. The kind of "all that work for nothing" type of deal.
 
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While he was still alive, let's get real...he was pretty much shunned my most folks. I used to have this whole line of reasoning that basically said, "You know, no matter how bad you may have fucked up in your own life...you haven't fucked up as badly as Michael Jackson." The man had the entire world by the balls in his 20s...and couldn't hang on.

The guy had more talent than just about any of us, save for perhaps a few other musicians and athletes. Arguably the most famous individual on Earth in his lifetime. And yet, despite all this, despite access to untold wealth and the ability to literally do whatever the hell he wanted...he couldn't escape his demons. No one in his big crazy entourage or insane family ever had the balls to tell him, "Dude...fuck off with having a bunch of eight-year old boys here for a sleepover. See a shrink...stat!"

I'm not excusing what he may or may not have done with children. Fact is, we get into a massive gray area when we are talking about the motivations of the parents of accusers. So much money at stake, so much 'evidence' based purely on who said what...no one can claim a monopoly on the truth. Does it excuse it if he did it? No. But none of us are God, and if there is in fact a God, he's being judged right now. It's out of our hands. Again, let he who is without sin...cast the first stone.

In the end, I like to think of it as a positive commentary on humanity that most folks don't want to roll around in the mud of the man's dark side. They just want to remember that talent that burned within him, that power to create these amazing songs that made people the world over shake their asses. Music is one of the few things that does bring people together regardless of nationality or religion and he was perhaps the only undisputed global superstar ever. We all have memories of our own lives tied to these songs, they all recall an age where pop culture wasn't so splintered and channel-specific and we all grooved more or less to the same shit.

This whole phenomenon is about a lot more than one man and his shortcomings.
It's a mistake to think so.

You know what, this is a good point. As much as I personally aren't shedding any tears or anything, I really don't think it's absurd to say that Michael is our generation's Elvis, and his death clearly has an incredible impact.

I just get a bit irked when I hear about people bursting into tears when they hear this news. I'm not trying to slam anyone for being saddened, but I just thought that this nonsense of people going on CNN and talking about how they interviewed him and whatnot... That's just stupid. You'd think these fucks could stand to stay out of the spotlight for one second. Sheesh.

Anyways, yeah, be sad that he's dead, that's fine. That's a normal reaction. Just don't sit there and try and tell me he's a victim in all this. He had it rough, but it's pretty clear to me that his own lifestyle is what caused his early demise. Just sayin'.
 

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In my opinion, Joe Jackson's abusive upbringing fucked Michael up. If you've watched "Living with Michael Jackson", you'd know what I mean. On another note, NCS put out there remaining Michael Jackson Cosbaby figures ($118), which immediately sold out. Not really surprising.
 

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In my opinion, Joe Jackson's abusive upbringing fucked Michael up.

Of course it did. But that's not an excuse. I've known people who had similar upbringings, and they were fucked up too, but at least they knew that sharing a bed with a little kid was wrong. Sheesh. Now, to be fair, a lot of child stars are fucked up as a rule... But there are a lot of former child stars and there's only one MJ. Or at least there was.
 

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now that i think about it, i'd die too if i was 400 million in debt.

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But there are a lot of former child stars

And they're pretty much uniformly fucked in the head. Personally, I think he was a deeply disturbed individual, who needed help and support that he was never able to get, with his status and fame. And by the time his emotional instabilities became public knowledge, he'd already been demonized to the point where it likely felt like an exercise in futility. I don't believe he was ever guilty of child molestation; rather, I believe that a bunch of opportunistic parents decided that he could be their meal ticket. He was subject to smear campaigns of many kinds, and in the court of public opinion, you're guilty until proven innocent, and even then, you're still guilty.
 

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And they're pretty much uniformly fucked in the head. Personally, I think he was a deeply disturbed individual, who needed help and support that he was never able to get, with his status and fame. And by the time his emotional instabilities became public knowledge, he'd already been demonized to the point where it likely felt like an exercise in futility. I don't believe he was ever guilty of child molestation; rather, I believe that a bunch of opportunistic parents decided that he could be their meal ticket. He was subject to smear campaigns of many kinds, and in the court of public opinion, you're guilty until proven innocent, and even then, you're still guilty.

And in the case of Famicommander, you're guilty until CNN, Fox News, and CBS proves you innocent.:D

So it would appear the doc gave him too much drugs. This could get interesting.
 

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Looking a lot like the Anna Nicole Smith case. They delayed the coroners report. Also, MSNBC has been unleashing the hate on MJ.
 

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Sorry I not going to read through this...

two things...

Micheal had a pretty fucking good Arcade Collection.

At least now we can listen to his music again. I don't have to worry about my money going to a Ped.
 

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SEE YOU IN SPACE, MICHAEL :)

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Wow there's a whole lot of douchebags in here and what's surprising is that most of them are regulars in here. I guess just 'cause we all like the Neo doesn't necessarily mean they're all common sense individuals. MJ was a great artist/entertainer that was his magic, that was his thing. This world is growing angrier everyday and it shows in the simplicity of people's demeaning attitudes.
 

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I love how "not revering MJ" or "believing MJ was a pedophile" are being equated with "being simple."

Awesome leaps there.
 

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Wow there's a whole lot of douchebags in here and what's surprising is that most of them are regulars in here. I guess just 'cause we all like the Neo doesn't necessarily mean they're all common sense individuals. MJ was a great artist/entertainer that was his magic, that was his thing. This world is growing angrier everyday and it shows in the simplicity of people's demeaning attitudes.

It's to be expected with all the generated hate that comes with the any mention of Michael Jackson.
 

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It's to be expected with all the generated hate that comes with the any mention of Michael Jackson.

True, folks around here tend to focus on the negative. Forget about the impact MJ made on the landscape of 20th century music, or his contributions to society, or a myraid of different good things he's done, just focus on the bad. I'm not saying the guy was a saint by any means, but it's surprising to see some of the members acting like vultures ready to pick at his dead carcass.

Without him, pop music of the last 30 years would have never existed.
 

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I love how "not revering MJ" or "believing MJ was a pedophile" are being equated with "being simple."

Awesome leaps there.
Derogatory stupidness is usually coupled with a simple thinking pattern, I guess I could be wrong though, but for the most part any situation where people easily place judgement on things they know nothing about like in this case MJ they simply opt for what seems acceptable within the confines of their own world.

Fucking leaps is right you condecending prick!

Edit: OK, I think is the way that's being presented that bothers me, I honestly have no idea wether the man was a child molester or not, I do know the guy had issues and I do know the guy was an amazing artist, I just enjoy the music. People that belittle the man usually have a very vague concept of MJ, they don't even know wtf happened during his career or after it, they're just shooting bullets 'cause is funny.
 
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To be fair, if somebody would've made an MJ thread last week there would've been plenty of people saying the same thing. It's not like his death has sparked this mass diss-taste for the guy; it's always been there and will always continue to be. Death in and of itself does not grant somebody respect they may not have previously had. Everybody dies. It's how you live, and that's how most people are judged. And believe me, everybody here judges.
 

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Without him, pop music of the last 30 years would have never existed.
WHO CARES? 30 years? I wouldn't trade the last 150 years of pop music for the welfare of even 1 kid. Why don't we just have blood sacrifices if pop music is so fucking important -- more than people's lives.

If he was a child molester -- IF, I say -- then all the singing and dancing in the world doesn't cancel that out. Great art is a wonderful thing, but come on.

rip in peace
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So much whining in this thread.

He's the greatest performer of our lifetime and that's the way we should remember him. It's a shame his work is overshadowed by his personal life.

RIP Michael.
 

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rip in peace

HAHAHHAHAHA, rip newspaper in peace?

Anyway, I'm still in shock about this, its really crazy to think he was planning a tour and you just take for granted that he's got many years left in his life.

Was just listening to the 911 call, the caller said he had his doctor with him who couldn't bring him back. I also noticed he never mentioned who he was, makes you wonder what the paramedics thought as soon as they saw it was MJ.

I've been break dancing all day.

Once again RIP
 
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