Anyone know any more obscure conspiracy theories?

Obviously the big ones are real common, and I'm sure we've all heard them.

- 9/11 was done by the US govt. (THE big one at the moment)

- The moon landing was faked (Kid Aphex bought into this one if I remember right, wierd cause he was always quite sharp in general)

- Jews Jews Jews!

- Secret societies ala The Illuminati, Freemasons, etc.

- Area 51 / Roswell UFO crash

- And my current personal favorite- The Dave Chappell Oprah/Cosby/Sharpton conspiracy about how they threatened and fucked with him and made him give up his doing Chappelle's show. This one is awesomely demented and completely rediculous, but it's fucking cool to read. Check it: http://www.chappelletheory.com/ If you haven't read it- it's gold.

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What more obscure or less known conspiracy theories do you know???

All I can think of is that some say that Ken Mattingly was really pulled from the Apollo 13 mission and replaced with John Swigert because Mattingly didn't look as good to the public (IIRC Mattingly wasn't married and Swigert was, which looked better since they were both the age where it was expected). The official word is that he had rubella or some illness like that.

Not saying I believe it, but yeah, it's an obscure conspiracy theory.

neobuyer said:

- And my current personal favorite- The Dave Chappell Oprah/Cosby/Sharpton conspiracy about how they threatened and fucked with him and made him give up his doing Chappelle's show. This one is awesomely demented and completely rediculous, but it's fucking cool to read. Check it: http://www.chappelletheory.com/ If you haven't read it- it's gold.

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I'm reading it, strangely believable so far.

What about that time traveler guy, John Titor? Does that count as a conspiracy?

T.A.P. said:

What about that time traveler guy, John Titor? Does that count as a conspiracy?

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I'd say that would be considered a "conspiracy theory" IMO. Though I studied the whole cyber phenomenon that was John Titor (mostly out of boredom) it was indeed sad it wasn't true. I kind of liked the future on his world line that was only a mere 2% different from our own.



As for Conspriacy Theories overall I'll say this. If what is being questioned sounds like it could be true but goes completely overboard... it probably is true. WHY? Because the mindset behind it would be that the more ridiculous there's no way it could be real. BTW, ya'll know that the world ended in 1997 right?

Although it is by no means "obscure", I can't get enough of the Kennedy conspiracy theory morons.

"OMG GRASSY KNOLL"

Classic. People who watched that Oliver Stone movie and claim it as fact are even more hilarious.

That Chappelle one is fucking nuts. I mean, I can see Sharpton doing it..but Oprah?

Wow.

i wish i could remember what airport it was. fuck. salt lake city? denver? something in colorado or utah or somewhere. but there's a huge conspiracy theory about a mural painted there. fuck if i can remember which airport though.

That Dave Chappelle theory is eerily believable.

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That Dave Chappelle theory is eerily believable.

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It's pretty damn well written isn't it? When I was finished I sorta believed it for 5 or 10 minutes.

Whoever made that site is quite the writer.

Jack Parson's death.

Big time researcher for NASA behind inventing rocket propulsion who died when his garage blew up from mixing mercury with other chemicals he owned. The fact he was an expert chemist and managed to make a simple mistake causing an explosion strikes alot of people as odd.

He was also a hardcore occultist who claimed all of his scientific accomplishments were the creation of magick and shortly before his death he starting babbling on nonstop about using magick to bring abouts the end of the world through science.

Theory is, the government had him killed because he was a nutcase. The Conspiracy theory says they feared he could somehow pull it off.

PS ~ L Ron Hubbard ripped off Parsons for $21,000 and used the money to publish his book Dianetics, thus the birth of Scientology. That is proven fact, not theory.

The Untimely Death of Stanley Kubrick:

When one hears the name of legendary film director Stanley Kubrick, the first thing that comes to mind is the classic 2001: A Space Odyssey. This was the first major Hollywood film that showed the exploration of space in a believable manner. Because of this, along with a great story written by Arthur C. Clarke, 2001 was a smash hit throughout the world.

Only four days after Kubrick turned in the final cut of Eyes Wide Shut to Warner Brothers, he was ‘found’ dead by his wife. He had no heart trouble, and wasn’t remotely ill before his sudden and shockingly unexpected death. Perhaps a clue into the nature of his death is the fact that it occurred precisely 666 days prior to the first day of the year in which his most famous film occurs --- 2001: A Space Odyssey. Everyone was shocked by his death, and this group includes all who were working on EWS, and his family, as well. Even though the official report was that he died of a heart attack, his wife did not accept the explanation. Stanley had not been in a state of sickness, or even in seemingly bad health.

However, according to William Cooper, author of the book BEHOLD A PALE HORSE, and the forty-two hour series on the Illuminati cabal and their Babylon mystery religion entitled MYSTERY BABYLON, stated during the second broadcast of MYSTERY BABYLON, that Stanley Kubrick was himself an initiate of the Mysteries. This helps to explain the films' baffling and arcane aspects, such as the unexplained "Masked Ball" portion of the film, and his shockingly sudden death, only four days after he turned in the final print of EWS to Warner Brothers.

Not only does this film contain some inexplicable symbology, but in making this movie, Kubrick may have made the fatal mistake of depicting too much truth concerning a group of self-appointed global elite world rulers known as the Illuminati. While it may truly be coincidence, but, there were many peculiar circumstances surrounding the death of Stanley Kubrick --- who was known to be in perfect health just one day prior.

When one considers the very real possibility that these 666 days represent Mr. Kubrick being punished for the crime of revealing too much during the two and a half hours of Eyes Wide Shut --- then his sudden death becomes immediately understandable. There are ways of inducing heart attacks(chemical agents or otherwise) while leaving behind no trace of the crime itself.


Stanley Kubrick – By The Numbers:


Date of Birth: 07/26/1928

EWS Final Print Delivery: 03/03/1999

Date of Death: 03/07/1999

2001: A Space Odyssey: 01/01/2001

Number of days between Kubrick’s death and the year of 2001 = 666!

One of the most ridiculous conspiracy theories I know deals with the involvement of Grigori Jefimowitsch Rasputin in the Whitechapel murders (commonly called "Jack The Ripper murders") in late-19th-century London East End (I'm some sort of a "Ripperologist" myself so I know a thing or two about them...).

The people who follow this theory believe that Rasputin created a secret police unit and sent them out to infiltrate the police forces of various European nations in order to cause terror and fear, thus giving the police forces a bad name and helping the socialist thinkers in these respective countries to gain political ground. There even is a hardcore of conspiracy fans who firmly believe that Rasputin himself was the murderer....

@Stefan, the Kubrick conspiracy thing reminds me of the rumours that spreaded after the death of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart in 1791. Mozart was a freemason and also "played around" with what became known as illuminism. He died only three months after the premiere of his famous opera "The Magic Flute", and the strange events surrounding his burial suggest that he was killed by high-ranking freemasons, it's been said that with his opera, he supposedly gave away most of their best-kept secrets in lyrical and musical form.

Anyone here a freemason?

How do I join?

A bit Uk specific but investors in Leeds Utd PLC football club were putting plans in place to break full back garry Kelly's legs and drug defender Michael Dubbery as during the clubs financial plight these players had large and long contracts remaining so the only option to get them off the wage bill was an insurance claim on Kelly and have Duberry sacked.

http://okeydokefootball.blogspot.com/2007/05/leeds-fans-i-give-you-your-saviour.html

That Rasputin one was just downright crap, he was a favorite of the Russian royal family afaik, why would he want to spread socialist credo?

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That Rasputin one was just downright crap, he was a favorite of the Russian royal family afaik, why would he want to spread socialist credo?

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Because he was a spy and a traitor.

Didnt end up dead for no reason.

I was going to say read the various illuminati books. But I believe you have that one covered.

Late said:

That Rasputin one was just downright crap, he was a favorite of the Russian royal family afaik, why would he want to spread socialist credo?

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According to the followers of this particularly funny conspiracy theory, the Romanow family and Rasputin did not want to help the socialists, they merely rated socialists as anarchist troublemakers who they could use to destabilize a rival government. They (the conspiracy fans) even went as far as to attribute the harsh police reaction to several rallies which led to the infamous Bloody Sunday (aka the London Trafalgar Square riots of 1887) to Rasputin and his royal supporters...

Of course this whole "theory" is utter crap because it wasn't before the turn of the century (1903/04) when Rasputin slowly became an important figure (albeit a shady one) of the Czarist regime, and even then he had other things in mind than causing civil unrest among England's working class.

Nesagwa said:

Anyone here a freemason?

How do I join?

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Membership in most influental lodges is by personal invitation only. There are some "open" lodges but you can only reach the 3rd normal degree in there... however, it's been said that these lower ranks will never be introduced to the freemasons' real secrets (their own deities and special oathes and whatnot).

IMO. freemasonry is a giant waste of time if it weren't for the excellent and very deep internal manuscript and book collections of some lodges, sadly they almost never open them for non-masons. Elitist bastards.

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Denver_Airport.html

yup, denver, colorado. i couldn't remember it but yeah that's a pretty obscure one that doesn't make much sense but check out that mural they have, it's fucking weird.

Takumaji said:

According to the followers of this particularly funny conspiracy theory, the Romanow family and Rasputin did not want to help the socialists, they merely rated socialists as anarchist troublemakers who they could use to destabilize a rival government. They (the conspiracy fans) even went as far as to attribute the harsh police reaction to several rallies which led to the infamous Bloody Sunday (aka the London Trafalgar Square riots of 1887) to Rasputin and his royal supporters...

Of course this whole "theory" is utter crap because it wasn't before the turn of the century (1903/04) when Rasputin slowly became an important figure (albeit a shady one) of the Czarist regime, and even then he had other things in mind than causing civil unrest among England's working class.



Membership in most influental lodges is by personal invitation only. There are some "open" lodges but you can only reach the 3rd normal degree in there... however, it's been said that these lower ranks will never be introduced to the freemasons' real secrets (their own deities and special oathes and whatnot).

IMO. freemasonry is a giant waste of time if it weren't for the excellent and very deep internal manuscript and book collections of some lodges, sadly they almost never open them for non-masons. Elitist bastards.

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Know any Masons I can get an invite from?

I see the fuckers all over the place with bumper stickers for their lodges.

I'm rather fond of Tesla's death ray myself.

Nesagwa said:

Know any Masons I can get an invite from?

I see the fuckers all over the place with bumper stickers for their lodges.

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Theres a lodge up here in ontario thats easy enough to get into. A mechanic gave my dad an invite once....but being a huge conspiracy theorist, he told him that he had no interest in prostrating himself to their luciferian owl-god, Moloch.


Tau Kappa Epsilon is a fraternity that would also give you a fast track with the Masons. Ronald Reagan and the founder of the Hooters chain of restaurants are notable "Tekes" AFAIK....

But if you're serious about this I can talk to some people when I come home.

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Know any Masons I can get an invite from?

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I know a middle-ranked mason who regularly attends meetings of his Joseph Unity Lodge but I guess this wouldn't work for you because (Central) European and UK/US freemasonry have different rituals, systems and degrees, AFAIK they also never invite foreigners.

I see the fuckers all over the place with bumper stickers for their lodges.

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,,,which brings us to another funny Ripper- and freemansonry-related conspiracy. Freemasonry underwent various changes in terms of public relations during the past few hundred years. Eventually the heads of the Great Lodges realized that all this secret-mongering only leads to distrust and suspicion, hence they loosened the rules a bit to put an end to all these conspiracy theories, the bumper stickers you mention are good examples for it.

This used to be different in 18th century England (and France). It's been said that some high-ranking masonic extremists made masonry even more cryptic and enhanced the rank system, they came up with a special rank called the Royal Arch. By reaching this grade, the initiate had to make an oath to always support and help all fellow masons no matter what, even in case of serious crimes, similar to what the Mafia would take as an oath from their novices. What's more, they had to renunciate all they knew about christian religion and accept a three-headed deity called Jahbulon or Jabalon as their new god and master, whom several experts on masonry depicted as a trinity of Jahwe (god of the Jews), Baal (a basically misleading name of various deities and demons) and On (an archaic form of Osiris).

Fast-foward to Stephen Knight and his 1976 book "Jack The Ripper: The Final Solution". Knight, journalist and author, claims that this oath of the Royal Arch was the driving force behind the difficulties of London's police forces to solve the Ripper case. According to Knight's conspiracy theory, the crimes were committed by Sir William Withey Gull, Queen Victoria's personal physician, to silence a group of women who found out that Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence and Avondale and Victoria's grandson, had secretly married a catholic working class girl, and consequently blackmailed the royal family to give them 10 Pounds or else they would tell the press. Worried that this could finally destabilize her already shaken empire, Victoria assigned Gull to get rid of the four women (the fifth canonical Ripper victim was a "mistake" according to Knight). Victoria knew that Gull, another high-ranking Royal Arch mason, would find a lot of willing hands in his ranks, despite the criminal nature of his task, and that his lips would be sealed forever.

Among the masons Stephen Knight suspected of being part of the conspiracy were such personalities as prime minister Lord Salisbury, Lord Randolph Churchill (Winston Churchill's father), Sir Robert Anderson (assistant commissioner CID (Criminal Investigation Department)), Sir Charles Warren (Metro Police commissioner) and a whole bunch of members of the royal family, including Prince Albert Victor and of course Queen Victoria herself.

Well... yeah, a giant heap of bullshit but it makes a good reading...

Sounds pretty awesome, I want in.