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Kazuki Dash said:
Whats the obsession with finding out whos under the mask anyway? Frankly i would't want to know the creepy bastard whos flying around on string
x-men 3 discussion (spoilers)
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Whats the obsession with finding out whos under the mask anyway? Frankly i would't want to know the creepy bastard whos flying around on string
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Spiderman > Spiderman 2...but that ain't saying much... Something about it just gets on my nerves. I can't say I enjoyed Doc Ock all that much. That may be the problem.
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Favorite part of the movie.Kazuki Dash said:
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feh, I had a bias going into the first Spider-Man movie so I'm not exactly an impartial observer...still, I can accept them for what they are, and who am I to argue with box office resultsSouthtownKid said:
*ahem* on topic: I'll most likely wait for DVD to see this, IF I see it cuz the XMen movies haven't really done it for me...
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They didn't do anything for me either, in the theater at least. I grew to like 2 after seeing it a couple more times on DVD. As long as the underlying tone and themes are right, I'm pretty good. X2 was about as close an adaptation as most normal books get, nevermind comic books.Kazuki Dash said:feh, I had a bias going into the first Spider-Man movie so I'm not exactly an impartial observer...still, I can accept them for what they are, and who am I to argue with box office results
*ahem* on topic: I'll most likely wait for DVD to see this, IF I see it cuz the XMen movies haven't really done it for me...
And although I'm a longtime and devout comic fan, I don't agree with the fans who think a litteral, line-for-line translation of any super hero comic is such a hot idea. Get the gist, translate it into real people-world, and see how it goes. Fans like to deify the Claremont/Byrne Dark Phoenix saga, but if they really brought that to the screen exactly as it first appeared in the early '80s, it would please nobody. Normal people would be rolling their eyes more times than if they were watching Ishtar (good luck expecting them to suddenly buy space aliens), and comic fans would be shrinking in their seats with embarrassment for the entire industry.
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I was disappointed by the movie. Not terrible, but not very good. 2 is clearly the best of the series.
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SouthtownKid said:
Dude, if they are unable to do it correctly, why do it at all?
Why rip a story from something, and turn it into something completely different?
Are they that barren in their ideas to create something themselves?
I expect nothing less than near complete accuracy to the source material.
Remember Resident Evil? I can't count the number of times I was scratching my head and going "This isn't what is supposed to happen. What is this? Why did they put that in?"
Bottom line, either do it accurately, or stop ripping the main plot, and making your own little story with the franchise.
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DARK ANDY said:
yeah, cyclops in his yellow tights,
non furry beast
or G-t-f- fucking-o
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OrochiEddie said:
I'm not talking the original storyline (of the series), I'm talking pick a damn story from any of the Comics series, and make a movie out of that. X-Men, X-Factor, Ultimate X-Men, X-Men:THe End, X-Men Etc.
There's dozens of X-Men storylines that were released, and I don't remember a damn one where Jean Grey FUCKING KILLED CYCLOPS.
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DARK ANDY said:
The phoenix is the nastiest period ever to exist
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blade was the best comic to film adaptation ever, end of story.
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RGP said:
thats why i liked it so much, they didnt try to make it "all ages", that was one reason AvP sucked so bad
plus snipes and dorph rocked as leads. blade 3 did suck, but the first will always be classic IMO, still better than spiderman as well.
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DashK said:
I really hate 2 so much that I won't watch Hellboy as its the same guy & 3 where Whistlers kids show up just as he's dieing was so lame, I just turned it off after that.
Stick with 1 & my Japanese DTS full bitrate DVD (1536 Kbps) at that.
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RGP said:
i liked 2 for the effects, i still think the first 5 minutes of blade 2 kicked insane ass, but i thought the new vampires were lame looking, and the storyline was a tad weak, still compared to the 3rd it looks like apocolypse now.
much like the matrix movies blade should have been a one shot deal.
I don't know if I really should post it but anyway, WARNING, BIG SPOILER!
So you remember that Xavier speaks about soul transfer during his course with the students. He says something like it would be good to transfer your soul into the body of someone else if near death. Remember the nurse and the dying patient in the video he shows to his students.
So, after the ending credits, you see the nurse from the video in the room and suddenly, the dying patient speaks some words, and we clearly hear that it's Xavier's voice speaking, so we can guess without a doubt that he transfered his soul into the body of the man.
END OF SPOILER.
I found this movis to be a pure gem. I've become an absolute fan as the different episodes were released. I love the Marvel movies as time passes by because of course there's a "US movie" syndrom, but it's far more accepted now and there are deeper reflections behind. I simply loved Spidey 2, Blades and now this X-Men 3.
Great, great movie. The only thing that was a bit dissapointing was that Angel did nothing special. I would've liked to have seen him way more!
So you remember that Xavier speaks about soul transfer during his course with the students. He says something like it would be good to transfer your soul into the body of someone else if near death. Remember the nurse and the dying patient in the video he shows to his students.
So, after the ending credits, you see the nurse from the video in the room and suddenly, the dying patient speaks some words, and we clearly hear that it's Xavier's voice speaking, so we can guess without a doubt that he transfered his soul into the body of the man.
END OF SPOILER.
I found this movis to be a pure gem. I've become an absolute fan as the different episodes were released. I love the Marvel movies as time passes by because of course there's a "US movie" syndrom, but it's far more accepted now and there are deeper reflections behind. I simply loved Spidey 2, Blades and now this X-Men 3.
Great, great movie. The only thing that was a bit dissapointing was that Angel did nothing special. I would've liked to have seen him way more!
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The more I think about this movie, the worse it gets in my head. Somehow I managed to forget so many BULLSHIT moments. But really the culmination of the following scenes/things really bring this movie down:
-Cyclops dying; I fucking HATE Cyclops, but really, it was a shit death. You don't kill the leader off like that, ever.
-Is Cyclops even dead? They never actually answered this.
-Rogue giving up what really amounts to nothing. If I was her I'd do that too, I can't imagine ANYONE honestly saying that was stupid thing to do. However that leads to:
-Why the fuck was Rogue even IN this movie? She doesn't DO ANYTHING. She serves absolutely no purpose at all. I could've at least BOUGHT the idea that Rogue absorbs the Phoenix's powers, and comes out of it being able to fly with increased strength. At least you're pleasing the fans by giving her the powers everybody is waiting for.
-The little "thing" between Iceman and Shadowcat. Totally useless plotline other than to motivate Rogue to rid herself of her power, which she was already in the mindset to do anyway from the first and second films.
-Xavier's death; embarassing in every concievable way. My girlfriend and I were unable to stop laughing at Patrick Stewart's face FLAPPING in the wind.
-Magneto dropping Mystique like a bad habit .02 seconds after she loses her powers
-Mystique losing her powers AT ALL. What a SHIT thing to do to what is probably everybody's favorite character from all 3 movies.
-Everything about Angel, another totally useless plotline. I'm not sure Ratner even understands what a "story arc" should be. In literally 45 seconds we are: Introduced to Angel, see that he is going to undergo the "Cure" process, see a sudden change in his conscience and essentially force-fed his "freedom for all mutants" attitude based on ZERO backstory(that opening scene counts for nothing). Horseshit!
-Colossus somehow being written as a LESS than one-dimensional character. I really like Colossus too. Totally useless in this movie other than doing the exact same thing twice.
-Juggernaut throwing Wolverine INTO the house he was supposed to be guarding. WTF?
-Magneto airlifting the Golden Gate Bridge. DOUBLE WTF. I was laughing outloud at this scene, as was most of the theater.
-Magneto DROPPING THE BRIDGE OUT OF THE SKY and yet somehow NONE of the mutants that are standing on it, are harmed or really the least bit disturbed by a thousand ton slab of metal and rock falling out of the sky.
-The fact that it went from evening to NIGHT in the course of one cut.
-Magneto throwing hordes of his "fellow mutant brethern" to the dogs so to speak. Totally bullshit scene and out-of-character even for Magneto. Ridiculous.
-The X-Men deciding to use the Cure on Magneto. TRIPLE WTF. I was seriously convinced that after Logan, Storm, and Beast all see the Cure needles on the ground, that the line "Work as a team" meant that they were going to defeat Magneto without using the cure, and by using their powers together.
-Then of all people, HANK MCCOY, THE CHAMPION OF MUTANT RIGHTS, STABS MAGNETO AND ROBS HIM OF HIS GIFT. BULLSHIT SCENE.
-Magneto hucking cars and Pyro setting them on fire. Really, really, really, stupid.
-Wolverine's regenerative powers are not that strong. Phoenix would've destroyed him easily.
And I know I'm forgetting so many other fucking idiotic things.
-Cyclops dying; I fucking HATE Cyclops, but really, it was a shit death. You don't kill the leader off like that, ever.
-Is Cyclops even dead? They never actually answered this.
-Rogue giving up what really amounts to nothing. If I was her I'd do that too, I can't imagine ANYONE honestly saying that was stupid thing to do. However that leads to:
-Why the fuck was Rogue even IN this movie? She doesn't DO ANYTHING. She serves absolutely no purpose at all. I could've at least BOUGHT the idea that Rogue absorbs the Phoenix's powers, and comes out of it being able to fly with increased strength. At least you're pleasing the fans by giving her the powers everybody is waiting for.
-The little "thing" between Iceman and Shadowcat. Totally useless plotline other than to motivate Rogue to rid herself of her power, which she was already in the mindset to do anyway from the first and second films.
-Xavier's death; embarassing in every concievable way. My girlfriend and I were unable to stop laughing at Patrick Stewart's face FLAPPING in the wind.
-Magneto dropping Mystique like a bad habit .02 seconds after she loses her powers
-Mystique losing her powers AT ALL. What a SHIT thing to do to what is probably everybody's favorite character from all 3 movies.
-Everything about Angel, another totally useless plotline. I'm not sure Ratner even understands what a "story arc" should be. In literally 45 seconds we are: Introduced to Angel, see that he is going to undergo the "Cure" process, see a sudden change in his conscience and essentially force-fed his "freedom for all mutants" attitude based on ZERO backstory(that opening scene counts for nothing). Horseshit!
-Colossus somehow being written as a LESS than one-dimensional character. I really like Colossus too. Totally useless in this movie other than doing the exact same thing twice.
-Juggernaut throwing Wolverine INTO the house he was supposed to be guarding. WTF?
-Magneto airlifting the Golden Gate Bridge. DOUBLE WTF. I was laughing outloud at this scene, as was most of the theater.
-Magneto DROPPING THE BRIDGE OUT OF THE SKY and yet somehow NONE of the mutants that are standing on it, are harmed or really the least bit disturbed by a thousand ton slab of metal and rock falling out of the sky.
-The fact that it went from evening to NIGHT in the course of one cut.
-Magneto throwing hordes of his "fellow mutant brethern" to the dogs so to speak. Totally bullshit scene and out-of-character even for Magneto. Ridiculous.
-The X-Men deciding to use the Cure on Magneto. TRIPLE WTF. I was seriously convinced that after Logan, Storm, and Beast all see the Cure needles on the ground, that the line "Work as a team" meant that they were going to defeat Magneto without using the cure, and by using their powers together.
-Then of all people, HANK MCCOY, THE CHAMPION OF MUTANT RIGHTS, STABS MAGNETO AND ROBS HIM OF HIS GIFT. BULLSHIT SCENE.
-Magneto hucking cars and Pyro setting them on fire. Really, really, really, stupid.
-Wolverine's regenerative powers are not that strong. Phoenix would've destroyed him easily.
And I know I'm forgetting so many other fucking idiotic things.
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Why didn't Wolverine stab Phoenix with "the cure", or use the Leech boy on her?
Way too overdramatic. Too much cheese. I would give this 1 star and 3 piles of shit.
Way too overdramatic. Too much cheese. I would give this 1 star and 3 piles of shit.
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DARK ANDY said:
::cough::
Exiles #3-4.
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Buro Destruct said:
Agreed. This is why the movie sucks. They should not make any more if they can't be faithful to the comic at least in some ways. Plus, it doesn't help that the execution was poor. I would say the Rogue and Angel scenes are fan service, but true fans of the source material wouldn't like this movie.
They should have just brought in Apocalypse for this movie...but NOOOOO. They had to somehow get the Morlocks to align themselves with Magneto and Dark Phoenix? Oh, and let's invent some mutants from out of nowhere and not bring in cool characters actually in the comic like Gambit, Bishop, Cable, Banshee, etc.
I'm really becoming sick of comic book films. Most of them are red headed step children of their comic sources.
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Buro Destruct said:
I laughed at that moment too. As for the rest, it's just a movie man
[Spiderman 2 reference]SouthtownKid said:
Me too.
PUNJABEE said:
Wow, as if people didn't have anything more evidence that you're a moron, you throw out this.
And, yes kid, while you were busy mindlessly hating hip hop and not believing in evolution, I did see it in theaters.