For those who think I am a price jacker....

Originally posted by Kenny Boy:
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You have yourself some nice sales too. Let me know if you ever get a US KOF 2002 AES.....

Kpj</strong><hr></blockquote>

If i see an ebay listing or private sale that may be of interest to you I'll be sure to let you. I think it's a bit too much of a new release for me to come across, but if I do i'll give you a heads up. Good luck.

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Originally posted by Tarma:
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Just to let you know, your 'mate' Jorge just got his a/c suspended.

Now he is out of the way, and I have taken the initative to offer the olive branch to Kenny, I'm prepared to drop this and take it no further. All I ask is you stay out of my way.
I might be a lot of things, both here, and in person, but I've 100% honest, straight down the line with every member I've dealt with including you. I've even bent over backwards to help some folk here.
But i'm tired of fighting, seems like that's all I've done since the weekend... I'm here to discuss the neo, have a laugh and a good time. If I appear overly passionate about things (i.e MS series) then I think that just goes to show how dearly I behold the games and the hardware.
Sadly until someone proves to me otherwise I wouldn't trust you as far as I could throw you.

@ Sal. I'm sorry. </strong><hr></blockquote>

to be brutally honest Richard i have have always posted great stuff about you in public, like i said if somebody deserves kudos - they will get it

i know you are honest and again i stress i have never ever said anything otherwise and if somebody is telling you stuff and its putting a rift between us i wanna know

you may think i am sickly nice but i am straight laced - what you see is what you get, if i have a problem with something i post it in public

in this thread i defended Kenny because i have bought around 10 items from him in the past and everything was great - so kudos to him

if somebody asked me if you were a trustworthy seller i would say yes as everything i have bought ahs been in great nick

as for the trust thing - thats up to you

but i want proof that people have been telling you stuff and i want to see your proof that i have been slandering you

no way is my name gonna get dragged thru the dirt

i am asking - what has been said as this isnt funny anymore

and if you are talking bollox - just tell me

but for me if you dont come forward with any information i will believe you are talking shit, just to try and discredit a member because we are having an arguement

so for me there isnt any trust anymore - sorry

infact the only person i have slandered in private messages is Dreamh2o and that was to Simone <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[Crying]" /> <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[Crying]" /> <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[Crying]" />

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Originally posted by FTL:
<strong>I'm so surprised NONE mentioned how unfair that auction of a converted slug 2 home cart is.

The seller does mention the fact it is a conversion but does he mention it clearly in the heading?
NO.

It is clear to me when I look at the heading that it is a METAL SLUG 2 US SNK HOME CART..how DECEPTIVE!
That's a true scam,since the heading CAN and DID deceive a lot of bidders for sure.
It's bidder's fault you will say.

Of course,but how does the seller come out from this auction?
Give me a break and again and so surprised Charlie didn't point this out.
If I was a inattentive bidder,I would be SURE to be bidding on a REAL SNK home cart,judging by:
HEADING
PICTURE

Try to put up a Metal slug 2 US home cart with CONVERTED put clear in the heading.
Your auction will fetch the HALF of amount.

Grow up Kenny Boy,you do seem like Matt Semmer,16 years old.

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Your crazy......

I was VERY clear in the description. The SECOND sentence states that the game was a conversion.

There is also a PARAGRAPH in the description stating it's problems.

Besides, I did not have room for "conversion" in the title. Check my previous ebay sales and you will see that I post every neo title the same way:

Game name, Region, Platform, System, Publisher, etc....

As a RESPONSIBLE bidder, you SHOULD READ the description. If I IGNORANTLY bid on an item WITHOUT reading the DESCRIPTION, that would be NO ONES fault but my OWN.

This is TRULY sad that you have to go to this level.

One last thing........in my description I state that it's a PROFESSIONAL looking convert; hence the official LOOKING photo.

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Originally posted by FTL:
<strong>Here you go,take a look again:
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1390238798" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1390238798</a>

That was not really smart of you using this auction as an argument to defend yourself.

Out of all your auctions,THIS one is really pointing out your malice to cheat potential buyers.

Again,take a look at the picture,perfect replica of the original home cart.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Again, READ thru my DESCRIPTION. You will see that I state it's a CONVERSION with PROBLEMS.

The picture in the auction listing is the EXACT item that was up for sale.

This was, by no means, a deceptive auction attempt.

What else are you gonna muster up?

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Originally posted by Kenny Boy:
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Your crazy......

I was VERY clear in the description. The SECOND sentence states that the game was a conversion.

There is also a PARAGRAPH in the description stating it's problems.

Besides, I did not have room for "conversion" in the title. Check my previous ebay sales and you will see that I post every neo title the same way:

Game name, Region, Platform, System, Publisher, etc....

As a RESPONSIBLE bidder, you SHOULD READ the description. If I IGNORANTLY bid on an item WITHOUT reading the DESCRIPTION, that would be NO ONES fault but my OWN.

This is TRULY sad that you have to go to this level.

One last thing........in my description I state that it's a PROFESSIONAL looking convert; hence the official LOOKING photo.

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Did you know that THERE ARE potential buyers who don't know much about conversions and can be fooled by your picture and heading?

Did you know that a lot of neo newbies try to get metal slug games as first neo geo games?

OF COURSE,as I said,it's buyer fault.
But to me that auction is nothing but deceptive.

Again,here is your proof:
If you had listed the auction with CONVERTED in the heading and a watermak stating "NOT ORIGINAL" on the picture,your auction would have fetched the half of the money.

That was my opinion as soon as I saw your auction and that is the reason it did fecth so high.

Do not forget the conversion comes from Gary S.
His pointless conversions already scammed a buyer for Metal Slug 1 US.

Money Kenny,not neo geo,that's your priority.

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Originally posted by JHendrix:
<strong>Hold it the fuck on.

Look I'm cool with just about everyone here and honestly I don't care much about the AES market, but saying that he was misleading with that Auction is just wrong.

In his FIRST LINE for the Description he mentioned it was a conversion. He described everything.

Honestly if you're going to plunk down $400+ for a game, then seriously you're going to read the whole damn description, especially if it's in the first line.

I mean seriously, him not listing it's a conversion of the game in the title will only serve to bring more eye's to his description page...

As for the picture being a perfect replica of the real deal, well hey it's a well done conversion and there ain't nothing wrong with that.

Peace

JHendrix</strong><hr></blockquote>

Couldn't have said it better myself.........

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Originally posted by BlackSpy:
<strong>I will say this though Tarma, when I met Jason we inevitably talked about this board and the personalities on it and he was unstinting in his praise of you (and Sal for that matter)- in fact he didn't have a bad word to say about anyone (except the notable trolls, and that was only for their trolling). Jason is genuinely great and sympathetic guy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks John when i noticed you posted here i was gonna ask you to make a quote

Tarma i need that information - even if you dont want to send the pm's or e-mails i want his name

i think anybody who was in my shoes right now would want to know the same

thing will never be the same again between us - that much is evident, if this was the other way round i know you would what the information

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Originally posted by JHendrix:
<strong>Hold it the fuck on.

Look I'm cool with just about everyone here and honestly I don't care much about the AES market, but saying that he was misleading with that Auction is just wrong.

In his FIRST LINE for the Description he mentioned it was a conversion. He described everything.

Honestly if you're going to plunk down $400+ for a game, then seriously you're going to read the whole damn description, especially if it's in the first line.

I mean seriously, him not listing it's a conversion of the game in the title will only serve to bring more eye's to his description page...

As for the picture being a perfect replica of the real deal, well hey it's a well done conversion and there ain't nothing wrong with that.

Peace

JHendrix</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's perfectly clear your not familiar with the AES market.

That auction is misleading for a lot of ignorant buyers who just want to score a good deal on a Metal slug 2 US aes.

How could you explain anyway all the scams happening with the slug games on aes format?
On ebay.de,like on ebay .com,you can see a lot of metal slug converted home carts but guess what?
EVEN if described as a conversion,a lot of times,the buyer is cheated by an UNCLEAR and deceptive auction.

Generally conversions:
1)do NOT have manual
2)show a different insert and sticker from the original
The picture in the auction was highly deceptive.
Not legit at all if you ask me,like the whole item.

AS SAID a lot of times,Kenny Buy did list it as a conversion but it was a deceptive auction anyway in my opinion.
I myself got cheated by this auction before going through all that text.

More,the bid history is quite suspicious,remembering me of the bid history of other slug 2 home cart from same seller(that time zero feedback bidders drove the price up to $1100+).

Bottom,bright line is the feedback left from the seller for the "lucky"(!) buyer:
"pleasure was all mine".

I do believe it Kenny!

Go on,score another hit like that and keep up the name of the neo geo.

Another little note: our greedy friend listed the cart on ebay,since on the forums his chances to find a buyer NOT aware of the whole conversion issue were extremely few.
Your so smart Kenny.

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Originally posted by BlackSpy:
<strong>I've bought stuff from you both and I've met Jason in person. I haven't got a problem with either deal or either person. I think you are both credits to the board and the 'scene' (though, granted, I haven't been here long).

I think I've read all the posts in this arguement and it seems to me that this is the sort of arguement that just doesn't happen in real life because the little misunderstandings at the root of it get sorted out very quickly.

I will say this though Tarma, when I met Jason we inevitably talked about this board and the personalities on it and he was unstinting in his praise of you (and Sal for that matter)- in fact he didn't have a bad word to say about anyone (except the notable trolls, and that was only for their trolling). Jason is genuinely great and sympathetic guy.

Equally, I remember your asking me to say hi to him when we met.

I can't believe you are exploding at each other over this, I hope you sort it out, its a shame its so inconvient for you to have a pint to sort it out.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I believe you, sir, because Jason has always been one of the most respected members here and most here know how much in high regard I hold.

I've said it before, he's my best friend here and you couldn't ask for a better one, IMHO.

But Richard has always been one of the most forthcoming and truest members on this board. Very rarely do you see someone who wears his heart on his sleeve and conducts himself like an adult. Although I'm friends with both he and Too Short, I assumed by reflex and judgement of character that Jorge was likely at fault for their problems. I simply don't know Jorge as well, that's all.

Richard ALWAYS backs up his arguments with facts and NEVER hesitates to help a friend in need. After reading the MS4 thread, I've come to this conclusion:

Jason

You took the entire IQ remark out of context and simply defended your affection of a game which most hate (I like Super Spy, most don't). Richard based the comment on comparisons to previous MS games and figured that anyone who couldn't see what was plainly obvious has likely the same intelligence as someone who says "would like you fries with your order?" as a living. My response to him about brown-nosing was tongue-in-cheek because of comments about Jorge and I realized that. You should have realized it to, unless as a Naval Officer it's standard practise to play "mine's bigger than yours" so you decided to continue it.

Richard

You lost it because as Jason posted his defense of the game AND took offense to your IQ statement, you were already in a heated battle with most of the forum. You let your emotions (as is your nature) get the better of you and attacked a friend (you realize Jason is standup, your pride won't) when you should have brushed it off as a misunderstanding. You treated mine about brown-nosing as such but I assumed you realized the tone of my reply anyway.

You felt betrayed that a mate would take sides against you and retaliated, when you should have turned the other cheek and let him know your true intentiions. Your a lawyer for Christ's sake. You profession dictates that you're more intelligent than that.

Anyway,

I've said my piece and happily accept any flames directed my way by both of you. Maybe if you join forces in flaming me you'll forget your little sandbox tantrums and become friends again .

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Originally posted by Kenny Boy:
<strong>I love the little twist you put on things FTL.

This auction was NOT posted with the deceptive spin you seem to see.

I am sorry you read it like that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Can i say i think Kenny's auction is fine lets face it people don't have to bid if they don't want to. and to be honest i'd be happy as fuck with a price like that, everyone wants as much they can get for there items.

Kenny did no wrong on this one!

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Originally posted by FTL:
<strong>Another little note: our greedy friend listed the cart on ebay,since on the forums his chances to find a buyer NOT aware of the whole conversion issue were extremely few.
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This is FALSE. How DARE you accuse me of being a cheat/fraud/thief/deceiver.

This cart was purchased from Gary's AES Collection (AssFlounder).

I orginally sold it to Cole, a member here on the forums. He was the one that experienced problems with it. I refunded him his money and threw it up on ebay for $1 since I felt it would sell for parts, repairability, etc...

This was NOT done to trick someone into buying a fake cart at an authentic price.

Your logic is incorrect.........please stop rambling.

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Originally posted by Argentina94:
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On topic though, I believe everyone should get whatever they can for their games and if Kenny sells a converted cart for nearly $500, then all the power to him and a big "FUCK YOU" to the ass who paid that price.

Prices are set to whatever the highest bidder is willing to pay. Considering the rarity of Neo games (all Neo games are rare in comparison to other systems on or off the market), it's the buyers who set the price, NOT the seller.

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I still stand by this but I do agree with FTL.

The auction is misleading and seems obvious that the title does not specify the game as not being original to attract potential bidders.

A newbie who knows nothing about conversions wouldn't understand the meaning of conversions (I've been a Neo owner since 1994 and never heard of them till I came here last year) so upon receiving the game would think he received the game.

I also believe that if the title stated boldly that the game was converted, it would have ended at half the amount.

I've always respected you Kenny but I'm afraid that this is what I believe upon seeing the auction. Sorry, but I can't agree with you just because I like you.

I'm in no way suggesting you were trying to cheat someone, but like all legal documents have fine print, your auction did as well.

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Originally posted by FTL:
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AS SAID a lot of times,Kenny Buy did list it as a conversion but it was a deceptive auction anyway in my opinion.
I myself got cheated by this auction before going through all that text.

More,the bid history is quite suspicious,remembering me of the bid history of other slug 2 home cart from same seller(that time zero feedback bidders drove the price up to $1100+).

Bottom,bright line is the feedback left from the seller for the "lucky"(!) buyer:
"pleasure was all mine".

I do believe it Kenny!

Go on,score another hit like that and keep up the name of the neo geo.

Another little note: our greedy friend listed the cart on ebay,since on the forums his chances to find a buyer NOT aware of the whole conversion issue were extremely few.
Your so smart Kenny.

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Agree completely. It's an intentionally deceptive ad. Apparently, Kenny has no qualms about ripping others off and then trying to get good deals for himself, the cheap bastard.

It's particularly telling Kenny, that not only do you not indicate it is a conversion in the title but that you do not change the typeface, bold, or otherwise highlight the fact that it is a conversion. You are counting on bidders to look at the picture and buy and you know some bidders will do just that.

Kenny, it has been established that you are a price jacking bitch but this is on another level altogether. Even for you, this is low. Your auction shows that you have questionable/non-existant integrity. And don't give us this outraged shit. You're a fraudulent seller by your own admission. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Originally posted by Bar81:
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Agree completely. It's an intentionally deceptive ad. Apparently, Kenny has no qualms about ripping others off and then trying to get good deals for himself, the cheap bastard.

It's particularly telling Kenny, that not only do you not indicate it is a conversion in the title but that you do not change the typeface, bold, or otherwise highlight the fact that it is a conversion. You are counting on bidders to look at the picture and buy and you know some bidders will do just that.

Kenny, it has been established that you are a price jacking bitch but this is on another level altogether. Even for you, this is low. Your auction shows that you have questionable/non-existant integrity. And don't give us this outraged shit. You're a fraudulent seller by your own admission. Thanks for pointing it out.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm so happy someone else can see the truth.

BTW Kenny,you sold the cart to Cole on the forum fpr $400+...give me a break..it sold for a lot less for sure.
But then you did not post it again on the forums,but tried Ebay searching for buyers not aware or expert in neo geo home carts.

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Originally posted by FTL:
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I'm so happy someone else can see the truth.

BTW Kenny,you sold the cart to Cole on the forum fpr $400+...give me a break..it sold for a lot less for sure.
But then you did not post it again on the forums,but tried Ebay searching for buyers not aware or expert in neo geo home carts.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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