All these "who would win" nonsense!

the_move · Jun 7, 2002

This is all shit and do you wanna know why.

I wish they would make a game with both the characters of the capcom´s Street Fighter of their strongest version of any episode and with the SNK char´s with their strongest version of their games (not this crappy KoF Ryo, but Wild ambition Ryo i.E)

This would show, how Capcom char suck compared to SNK chars, coz while SNK has always improved their chars with success Capcom only did some minor changings with almost no effect.

I played every Street Fighter series in the past pretty much, but once I had access to SNK Fighters most of those Capcom Fighters went so boring and unspectacular that now I can only laugh at seeing Ryu still launching his fireball with the same weak look as in the old days.

If the Street Fighters do not get major enhancements in the future they should retire, because they have not got what it takes anymore.

(added)

You needn´t be an absolute SNK fanboy to come to this conclusion.

[ June 07, 2002: Message edited by: the_move ]

YeldellGW · Jun 7, 2002

I was wondering who was going to start a topic like this. I must admit all these who would win topics have gotten out of hand. Oh well, whatever passes the time.

*Goes back to playing Gradius II*

geohound87 · Jun 7, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:
This is all shit and do you wanna know why.

I wish they would make a game with both the characters of the capcom´s Street Fighter of their strongest version of any episode and with the SNK char´s with their strongest version of their games (not this crappy KoF Ryo, but Wild ambition Ryo i.E)

This would show, how Capcom char suck compared to SNK chars, coz while SNK has always improved their chars with success Capcom only did some minor changings with almost no effect.

I played every Street Fighter series in the past pretty much, but once I had access to SNK Fighters most of those Capcom Fighters went so boring and unspectacular that now I can only laugh at seeing Ryu still launching his fireball with the same weak look as in the old days.

If the Street Fighters do not get major enhancements in the future they should retire, because they have not got what it takes anymore.

(added)

You needn´t be an absolute SNK fanboy to come to this conclusion.

[ June 07, 2002: Message edited by: the_move ]<hr></blockquote>

i disagree.......
a lot of people haven't noticed but not all SNK characters were toned down and Capcom did tone down some of their characters.
Akuma and Shin Akuma hae been extremely toned down from their Alpha and SF3 selves
Sakura is getting weaker
Ryu lost some combos and he's been toned down from all his past games
Bison's not on steroids in this game and lacks his old priority
Kim, Geese, Terry, and some others have not been toned down
Kim has all his moves and Terry has more moves than a lot of his other games
Capcom made Rock better than he was in MotW

the_move · Jun 7, 2002

Originally posted by geohound87:


i disagree.......
a lot of people haven't noticed but not all SNK characters were toned down and Capcom did tone down some of their characters.
Akuma and Shin Akuma hae been extremely toned down from their Alpha and SF3 selves
Sakura is getting weaker
Ryu lost some combos and he's been toned down from all his past games
Bison's not on steroids in this game and lacks his old priority
Kim, Geese, Terry, and some others have not been toned down
Kim has all his moves and Terry has more moves than a lot of his other games
Capcom made Rock better than he was in MotW<hr></blockquote>

Kim has not all his moves and those he has are tweaked to shit.

Terry also has not all of his moves in CvsS and his Supers do no damage in it.

Geese is pretty much toned down. There are much better versions of him in SNK games.

Shin Akuma is only weakened in case of the angle of his air fireballs and the extrem high damage he recieves. His Supers do more damage than "Rugal" Bernstein, who is toned down a lot compared to SNK games.

Ryu has lost combos yes, and he is not that badass either in CvsS.

Vega has been a loser since his debut in SF2. Only his special version in SF Zero 3 is powerful.

I suggest, you first play newer SNK games before talking.

Since this comment I highly doubt you have played at least one title of the Real Bout Series.

[ June 07, 2002: Message edited by: the_move ]

Rain · Jun 7, 2002

For gods sake, will you stop this SNK Fanboy Drival? Both companies Make GREAT games. Perhaps you lack the skill too be good at two different styles of fighting game? Or did some MVC2 Scrub kick your ass with his Cable-Sentinal-Spiral Team? :rolleyes:

poppycock · Jun 7, 2002

Originally posted by Rain:
For gods sake, will you stop this SNK Fanboy Drival? Both companies Make GREAT games. Perhaps you lack the skill too be good at two different styles of fighting game? Or did some MVC2 Scrub kick your ass with his Cable-Sentinal-Spiral Team? <hr></blockquote>

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Muska · Jun 7, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:This is all shit and do you wanna know why.
I wish they would make a game with both the characters of the capcom´s Street Fighter of their strongest version of any episode and with the SNK char´s with their strongest version of their games (not this crappy KoF Ryo, but Wild ambition Ryo i.E)

This would show, how Capcom char suck compared to SNK chars, coz while SNK has always improved their chars with success Capcom only did some minor changings with almost no effect.

I played every Street Fighter series in the past pretty much, but once I had access to SNK Fighters most of those Capcom Fighters went so boring and unspectacular that now I can only laugh at seeing Ryu still launching his fireball with the same weak look as in the old days.

If the Street Fighters do not get major enhancements in the future they should retire, because they have not got what it takes anymore.

(added)

You needn´t be an absolute SNK fanboy to come to this conclusion.

<hr></blockquote>

I tottally agree with what you said, but unfortunately the exact opposite happened, SNK retired, but thats the way it had to be. Capcom had better graphics, and other hit games that wernt just fighting like, Resident Evil, Oni Musha, Devil May Cry, etc. So hate to say I told you so, and its all over and you know, because you didnt want them to go.

[ June 07, 2002: Message edited by: Muska ]

Yashiro666 · Jun 8, 2002

SNK is still alive, but under a diferent name, a rose by any other name still smells the same, anyways I been playing fighting games since SF2 first came out (before that there was double dragon, a fighting game with swords, and other games that sucked) but I got tired of all the SF versions Crapcom would come up with, that by the time SSF2T came out in 1994 SNK came up with KOF 94 and I have never looked back since. In the SF series how many memorable bosses do they have? Bison, Akuma/Gouki, Gill, Garuda. now look at KOF with a well developed storyline for EVERY boss Rugal, Goenitz, The New Face Team, Orochi, O. Zero, and Igniz.
Concerning gameplay I really hate what Crapcom did to the SNK players in their CvS series. Kyo with no autoguard, speed, or range in his moves. Rugal, Iori and Ryo so slow you would think you are playing with Chin or Zangief with their slow jumps or slow moves. Instead of Crapcom improving and adding more moves to their fighters Crapcom rather take away moves from the SNK fighters and the moves that made it in lost all their properties, speed or damage. I'm still waiting for SNK to come up with their version since I am more concerned with actual gameplay than with eye candy. What does it matter all the best looking graphics of the game if it plays like shit. All the Crapcom players dominate due to their power, speed, and range. Ryu, Sagat, and Blanka come to mind. KOF is much deeper than SF, with its turtling tactics and overpowered characters, the few that dominate the rest. And MvC2 is so much better balanced, a game made for scrubs and button smashers. I dare any Crapcom player to challenge an SNK player in KOF and I will bet you he will lose horrible. And have the SNK player play the Crapcom player in any SF game and don't be surprised if the SNK player wins again.

Muska · Jun 8, 2002

If you think Capcom is Crapcom, then SNK is SNGay.

Yashiro666 · Jun 8, 2002

well, don't put on SNK your own personal preferences, but anyways if you prefer Crapcom over SNK there are other forums that you might be interested in, like Shoryuken.com.
SNK Forever!!!!!!

Muska · Jun 8, 2002

I like them both. I'm just sayin dont go around callin Capcom Crapcom.

the_move · Jun 8, 2002

Originally posted by Rain:
For gods sake, will you stop this SNK Fanboy Drival? Both companies Make GREAT games. Perhaps you lack the skill too be good at two different styles of fighting game? Or did some MVC2 Scrub kick your ass with his Cable-Sentinal-Spiral Team? <hr></blockquote>

I am as much of a fanboy as you are an ignorant idiot.

This is not about gameplay, but about spectacularity.

And the Capcom fighters moves are no copmpetition to the SNK fighters ones, coz those moves of the Capcoms are weaker and far less spectacular.

The SNK chars are fucking mighty!

poppycock · Jun 8, 2002

Originally posted by Yashiro666:
 All the Crapcom players dominate due to their power, speed, and range.<hr></blockquote>

thats kinda like saying "I always lose cause those guys have more skill than me, they suck."

so Capcom fighters are worse then the SNK guys because they have more power, are faster, and have a better range.

rrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggghhhhhhhhttttttttt

I mean i know this is an SNK forum but for god sakes cant we let the SNK Fanboyism go for a bit and realise both fighters have their merits

they both have their strong and weak points

play what you like theirs this Hollier than thou attitude from alot of people on fighters they need to give that up

the_move · Jun 8, 2002

Originally posted by poppycock:


thats kinda like saying "I always lose cause those guys have more skill than me, they suck."

so Capcom fighters are worse then the SNK guys because they have more power, are faster, and have a better range.

rrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggghhhhhhhhttttttttt

I mean i know this is an SNK forum but for god sakes cant we let the SNK Fanboyism go for a bit and realise both fighters have their merits

they both have their strong and weak points

play what you like theirs this Hollier than thou attitude from alot of people on fighters they need to give that up<hr></blockquote>

This is not fanboyism, this is the truth.

Since 1995 Capcom chars have been outclassed by SNK chars in case of:

1. Move quality and quantity (especially the "follow-up-with-X"-moves (i.e. Andy´s Zaneiken´s second strike to knock down the foe, Billy´s straight staff stab with flaming) got pretty damn popular, while they can not be find in the capcom games (Alex shoulder Ram needs a follow up as well as some Dudley moves).

2. spectacularity

3. Style (artwork, design)

Capcom chars should imptrove or retire.

the_move · Jun 8, 2002

Originally posted by Muska:


I tottally agree with what you said, but unfortunately the exact opposite happened, SNK retired, but thats the way it had to be. Capcom had better graphics, and other hit games that wernt just fighting like, Resident Evil, Oni Musha, Devil May Cry, etc. So hate to say I told you so, and its all over and you know, because you didnt want them to go.

[ June 07, 2002: Message edited by: Muska ]<hr></blockquote>

I am talking about SF char not Capcom. Ryu should retire.

And I doubt that their fighters have better grafx.

You can not compare Onimusha or Resident Evil to a 2D-fighter game.

the_move · Jun 8, 2002

Originally posted by Rain:
For gods sake, will you stop this SNK Fanboy Drival? Both companies Make GREAT games. Perhaps you lack the skill too be good at two different styles of fighting game? Or did some MVC2 Scrub kick your ass with his Cable-Sentinal-Spiral Team? <hr></blockquote>

Hey, sucker!

I am good enough to beat you anyday.

And that´s why I can do such a comment.

I know my job!

polnareef · Jun 8, 2002

Lack of Bastard!
I hate this topic... :cool:

poppycock · Jun 8, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:


This is not fanboyism, this is the truth.

Since 1995 Capcom chars have been outclassed by SNK chars in case of:

1. Move quality and quantity (especially the "follow-up-with-X"-moves (i.e. Andy´s Zaneiken´s second strike to knock down the foe, Billy´s straight staff stab with flaming) got pretty damn popular, while they can not be find in the capcom games (Alex shoulder Ram needs a follow up as well as some Dudley moves).

2. spectacularity

3. Style (artwork, design)

Capcom chars should imptrove or retire.<hr></blockquote>

cause you know in a fight things like speed range and power dont come into play its all about your style and how spectacular you can make your moves look

moron

you need to stop smokin the snk cock over there get out and play some games

Muska · Jun 9, 2002

I think this post has gone on long enough.

the_move · Jun 9, 2002

Originally posted by poppycock:


cause you know in a fight things like speed range and power dont come into play its all about your style and how spectacular you can make your moves look
<hr></blockquote>

Speed range and Power?

Hehe! Maybe you should read my earlier posts again.

What is a shitty old Tatsumakisenpukyaku compared to a Burnknuckle?!

Nothing!

No speed, no power, simply shit.

Don´t worry I played those games long enough to build my opinion.

I guess I have played those games longer than you have!

Fuck off, wimp!

Crazyman_bob · Jun 9, 2002

Who would win:

vs. The Rest of the Board

Orochi Tenma does have his Super Spam Riot, but everyone else's Flames of Flaming might win...

Rain · Jun 9, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:


I am as much of a fanboy as you are an ignorant idiot.

This is not about gameplay, but about spectacularity.

And the Capcom fighters moves are no copmpetition to the SNK fighters ones, coz those moves of the Capcoms are weaker and far less spectacular.

The SNK chars are fucking mighty!<hr></blockquote>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....hahahaha.... oh okay sorry.

Me ignorant? Oh the_Move you really are dumb. You go on and on about how great SNK are, but how crap Capcom are, and yet I'm the ignorant one. You really are dumb... hahahaha.

Oh it gets better! Because SNK characters moves are "spectacularity" (Is that even a fucking word?!) They are automatically better?!!? FANBOY!!!!!!!!

poppycock · Jun 9, 2002

Originally posted by the_move:


Speed range and Power?

Hehe! Maybe you should read my earlier posts again.

What is a shitty old Tatsumakisenpukyaku compared to a Burnknuckle?!

Nothing!

No speed, no power, simply shit.

Don´t worry I played those games long enough to build my opinion.

I guess I have played those games longer than you have!

Fuck off, wimp!<hr></blockquote>

you are a sad sad little man

seriously bro you need to get out see some sunlight it may help you a bit

go to the arcades you can play games there too

sorry but if your this ignorant to Capcom Fighting games i see no point to talk more with you

was your first capcom game Capcom Vs SNK cause seriously thats how it sounds

your knowdlege of Capcom games makes my nephew look like a genius about them

im done with you

your lips are tightly around SNKs dick so i see no point in talking with you further

get out man get into the air go play in some arcades

K_K · Jun 9, 2002

i don't give a damn who it was posted by: Kim, Geese, Terry, and some others have not been toned down
Kim has all his moves and Terry has more moves than a lot of his other games
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hey terry has been toned down a lot. play kof 99 terry has two simple to do three hit combos right there; plus the orbital wave. now in capcom vs snk terry has no orbital wave his crack shot sucks. and terrys power charge has been missing for years. kim has been toned down as well his crescent slash has like no range. and is practically uncomboable haky kyaku has no range and can't stop a fire ball. he's shroter as a character and has slower kicks capcom. toned him down a little too much. then geese just like ryo sakazaki has been slowed down soo much i can't use him. get your facts straight next time there man.

the_move · Jun 10, 2002

Originally posted by poppycock:


you are a sad sad little man

seriously bro you need to get out see some sunlight it may help you a bit

go to the arcades you can play games there too

sorry but if your this ignorant to Capcom Fighting games i see no point to talk more with you

was your first capcom game Capcom Vs SNK cause seriously thats how it sounds

your knowdlege of Capcom games makes my nephew look like a genius about them

im done with you

your lips are tightly around SNKs dick so i see no point in talking with you further

get out man get into the air go play in some arcades<hr></blockquote>

You and Rain should better shut the fuck up, cause you don´t know who you´re talking to.

I pretty much know the capcom fighters as I know the SNK fighters.

And it is very obvious, who of both companies made a better job especially in case of innovations and improvements.

All these "who would win" nonsense!

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