Vektorlogic - no more private sales

Originally posted by Drift King EX:
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Now that's just lazy, not packing it in a box.

I've ordered kits from filmore on 2 times, and both times they came very well packed in actual boxes. And filmore is damn sure a wholesale company, and not a collector company.

Saying that you don't sell to "collectors" because a package was sent without an outer box, is just a poor excuse for laziness. Even shit that gets sent to retail stores has outer boxes to protect the stuff.</strong><hr></blockquote>

DKE, yeah my stuff came like that. Only I got three kits all taped together with a packing label and stamps slapped on them. It was the most horrible mess you ever did see . I'm suprised the boxes weren't in worse shape than they were since it came from overseas.

Andy, my bad. I must have confused you for someone else. My apologies.

I'm working myself into a frenzy. You can't imagine how pissed I am about all of this. Especially since I paid a lot to have him rectify the original situation. This second package was supposed to fix all of that and this is what I get .

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Originally posted by BlindDrunk:
<strong>I have purchased the Hyper64 kit with 3 games from Jeff and they all arrived in mint condition inside a large Hyper64 box - I have no complaints with Jeff at all. I also purchased the Neo Geo 6 slot cabinet from them and it arrived a day earlier than promised and in great shape.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Well, this just shows that he could do a good job if he wanted to.

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Originally posted by NeoDragoN:
<strong>LMFAO!!!

I can't belive you guys are going off on one because your boxes got stamped and have tape on them!! OH NO CALL THE FUCKING COPS!!

I got all mine covered in stamps and that and chucked em away!! I think most of you need to get alife when all you can moan about is that your boxes are fucked!! a brown box with a sticker on my life is ruined now they have been damaged!!

BOO FUCKING HOO!!</strong><hr></blockquote>


Thanks for the input, dumbass.

Now go play your shit ass worthless MVS carts.

Oh, does that offend you?

Then don't mock people for wanting complete kits.

pencildick.

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Originally posted by Vektorlogic Ltd:
<strong>Hi Guys

Vektorlogic is now back open fully for business for trade buyers - new numbers are as follows - +44 1325 485698 and fax is 488466 - however....

following the completion of supply of the japanese versions of SS64 there was one unhappy customer who was highly upset that his HNG boxes were taped together, thus destroying the 100% quality of the boxes - I understand the situation for collectors, but we are a trade business, not a collector supplier - that's what pays the bills.

Consequently it is with great regret that I have to draw the line on future private sales and call it a day - with such little time to allocate to private sales as it is - it is clear that there will be further situations such as this that could arise in the future. I think it was a paypal sale, and the possibility of account suspension is not worth the hassle of a few hundred bucks - sorry

I know that there will be posts - so here is the original letter and reply -

Rgds

Jeff F

> Joe</strong><hr></blockquote>


you know what.......your an asshole

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Originally posted by ORPHEUS:
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you know what.......your an asshole

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I think that's a pretty accurate summary of the last three pages!

Btw: I still don't have any reply from Jeff. No eMail, no SS64jp. and the long promised boxes also haven't arrived! Man, this sucks!

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Originally posted by NeoDragoN:
<strong>LMFAO!!!

I can't belive you guys are going off on one because your boxes got stamped and have tape on them!! OH NO CALL THE FUCKING COPS!!

I got all mine covered in stamps and that and chucked em away!! I think most of you need to get alife when all you can moan about is that your boxes are fucked!! a brown box with a sticker on my life is ruined now they have been damaged!!

BOO FUCKING HOO!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks for you input. It's most appreciated. It really bothers me when people are nice and sensitive.

I'm happy that condition is not an issue for you. Vektorlogic is an excellent company for you then.

I'm sure you don't care about the condition of anything you own, so you probably wouldn't understand. That said, this is probably an issue that you should stay out of since you can't relate.

You probably also didn't realize that people have different opinions or care about different things. Else your post wouldn't have made you come off like an asshole.

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Originally posted by NeoDragoN:
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I can't belive you guys are going off on one because your boxes got stamped and have tape on them!! OH NO CALL THE FUCKING COPS!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

If I recieved a kit with tape and stickers all over it I wouldn't give two shits either...I buy the games to play them, not to store them away on a shelf and look pretty. But, you know, that's what collectors want - mint boxes. Most arcade vendors will just rip the box open and slot the cart in the machine...they care more about the sales than the re-sale value. So, seeing things from Jeff's point of view for a second, all that he did wrong (initially) was assume that all his customers want the same thing. Of course, there's very little excuse for what happens next...

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<strong>come on - don't back up Jeff because he lives in the UK now. Use a little reason.

Who buys hyper neo geo games?

Arcade ops?

puh-lease.

Jeff is just making up an excuse to be irresponsible.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who ever mentioned the UK?

And all I was saying is that maybe Jeff packs games for his usual customers - he sells more than Hyper 64s you understand - and that maybe, just maybe, he didn't pack those games badly because he was lazy, irresponsible, mean or whatever.

His complete lack of sympathy, understanding and customer service, however, IS lazy etc. etc. etc.

Just saying.

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Originally posted by NeoDragoN:
<strong>Wasabi & Galford i do like my games minty but shit its a fucking bit of cardboard with a sticker on it!!

Like i said if you can kick up a huge fuss over this then u definately need to get a life!!!

I don't blame jeff for giving up on people on this board all you do is fucking moan!!!

[ August 24, 2002: Message edited by: NeoDragoN ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah yeah. FOAD.

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Originally posted by 10in2010:
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now tell me why vectorlogic should be any different?</strong><hr></blockquote>

The difference is that you're sensible enough to know that you'll be dealing with collectors, and package your stuff as such. Like I said, he made a mistake...

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Originally posted by Huxley:
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The difference is that you're sensible enough to know that you'll be dealing with collectors, and package your stuff as such. Like I said, he made a mistake...</strong><hr></blockquote>

The major difference, that's clear as black and white, is that Jeff is selling the hyper neo geo - a virtually worthless piece of hardware in the arcade market right now. He knows that only collectors and gamers are buying these - not 5 year old children and half-wit arcade ops that will "rip right into the cardboard and toss it"

Anything collectible has value in completeness. I figure you know this, but are playing devil's advocate for Jeff's sake.

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Originally posted by NeoDragoN:
<strong>Wasabi & Galford i do like my games minty but shit its a fucking bit of cardboard with a sticker on it!!

Like i said if you can kick up a huge fuss over this then u definately need to get a life!!!

I don't blame jeff for giving up on people on this board all you do is fucking moan!!!

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You don't get it. It's not just about cardboard. It's about customer service. It's about Vektorlogic's attitude. I asked him nicely (and so did many people on this board) for minty cardboard boxes and non-censored games. He ignored me for several weeks until many people on this board complained. Then he said that it would cost more to get it all fixed. I didn't mind too much, as long as everything got straightened out. He then ships everything so shittly that all the money I paid was for nothing.

He then goes into this thing about how he's not going to sell to us anymore and he doesn't answer any e-mails. What kind of business is that? He's acting like a spoiled child.

What about the people that ended up with broken items? Or how about getting censored crap versions of games? Even if I didn't care about the box, shipping like that internationally is just terrible. The packages get bounced around so much from overseas it's a wonder the thing still works.

That's moaning and groaning?

Now who's the asshole?

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
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I figure you know this, but are playing devil's advocate for Jeff's sake.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't know Jeff, I've never actually spoken to him personally (maybe one e-mail, I think) and I don't love the guy so much that I'd run to protect him. Heck, I've already said that there is no excuse for how he has handled the situation.

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Originally posted by zorro:
<strong>does anybody know any "good" buisnesses for arcade or neo stuff that only buisnesses can order from? I would like to use my ultimate power that I have ignored for so long. Also if anyone would like any help with this type of stuff I would love to help you guys. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I mentioned before that Cosmicco is one of the best sources for arcade pcbs and neo MVS carts. Wire/shipping fees can add up but if you get together a group order you can split the costs among the group.

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