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She has no business having her first ever match at Wrestlemania. She's only in WWE because her MMA career is over and her movie career never took off.

It's a slap in the face to the entire roster.
 
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I'm very much not a Ronda fan. Kind of glad she's going to be in a throwaway match against Steph and Hunter (she's getting a mystery partner, I assume it'll be Travis Browne, her husband and also a recent WWE signee/former shitty UFC fighter). Apparently Charlotte tried to convince creative to let her have the Ronda match but they're making her stick with Asuka.
 
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They're gonna give Ronda a star to team with. Probably Kurt Angle, but maybe The Rock if whatever movie he's working on right now doesn't flip out over the insurance costs.

I sure as shit ain't watching.
 
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It makes sense. She will still draw. She was always a better "Wrestler" than a striker.
 
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She won't draw shit. Wrestlemania would sell out no matter what and Rousey is a washed up joke.
 
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Apparently the crowd reaction to her name on RAW last night was pretty negative, enough so that Keller noted it in his recap of the show.
 
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So it turns out one of the reasons WWE has been able to remain financially healthy (besides their massive TV deal which expires next year) is that by transitioning from a PPV model to the WWE Network model, they don't have to pay out nearly as much in PPV bonuses to the roster.
 
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So now all WWE PPVs will be four hours long, plus an hour pre-show which will have two matches. So essentially, every PPV is 5 hours long.

So in a given month that's 12 hours of Raw, 8 hours of Smackdown, 4 hours of NXT, 4 hours of 205 Live, 4 hours of Main Event, and 5 hours of PPV not including any other network specials or NXT Takeovers when applicable.

If you watch every WWE TV show and PPV you're spending nearly 2 full days every month on that shit.
 
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So now all WWE PPVs will be four hours long, plus an hour pre-show which will have two matches. So essentially, every PPV is 5 hours long.

So in a given month that's 12 hours of Raw, 8 hours of Smackdown, 4 hours of NXT, 4 hours of 205 Live, 4 hours of Main Event, and 5 hours of PPV not including any other network specials or NXT Takeovers when applicable.

If you watch every WWE TV show and PPV you're spending nearly 2 full days every month on that shit.
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That's almost as much time as you spend bitching about it.
 
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Turns out they did a Future of Honor last week after all. Just slow on the upload. So here it is:

This week's Women of Honor Wednesday, featuring the debut match of Tenille Dashwood/Emma from Honor Reigns Supreme:

This week's Throwback Thursday:

This week's Future of Honor Friday:
 
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NXT lost over 32 million dollars in 2016 and 2017. Bigger losses in 2017.


2016: 7 million dollars in ticket sales, 20 million dollars in expenses
2017: 6 million dollars in ticket sales, 25 million dollars in expenses
 
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Cornette was wishing he could have 32 million for OVW, LOL.
 
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Turns out if your business model is to sign ROH talent for more money than ROH pays them, then charge lower ticket prices than ROH charges, you don't make any money for some reason.
 
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NXT is supposed to lose money.
But they are also supposed to turn out talent.
 
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It's not supposed to lose money. Nobody loses money on purpose. Especially not Vince McMahon.

It's true that it's supposed to keep talent away from rival promotions, but nobody loses 32 million dollars on purpose.
 
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Developmental is always supposed to lose money.
 
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Famicommander said:
Turns out if your business model is to sign ROH talent for more money than ROH pays them, then charge lower ticket prices than ROH charges, you don't make any money for some reason.
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I hate to break it to you, but that is one of the many joys of laissez faire capitalism.

A big player can force out a smaller player by incurring losses that a smaller player cannot withstand.


And before you go off:
Yes, Sinclair is a billion dollar company. But ROH is a very, very small part of that. Sinclair won't keep it around if it incurs too many loses.
 
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The truth is that since the mid/late 80's, nobody in the US (other than the WWE) has made money running a wresting company.
 
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ROH makes money. That's not even a question.

And no, developmental is not supposed to lose money.
 
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So you are telling me that if you looked at ROH's books over the past 5-10 years, there would be an aggregate net profit?


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And no, developmental is not supposed to lose money.
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Any developmental program should lose money. The idea is that the tradeoff is that you end up with an established star that makes you a ton of money down the road. A Randy Orton or a John Cena. Unless you can find an accounting trick that takes some form of tradeoff into consideration, developmental should lose money.

MLB loses a shit ton of money on it's minor league operations. Most MILB teams struggle to maintain a profit (even with the parent club paying the entire salary).

Even recording industry A&R is a loss leader.
 
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So you are telling me that if you looked at ROH's books over the past 5-10 years, there would be an aggregate net profit?




Any developmental program should lose money. The idea is that the tradeoff is that you end up with an established star that makes you a ton of money down the road. A Randy Orton or a John Cena. Unless you can find an accounting trick that takes some form of tradeoff into consideration, developmental should lose money.

MLB loses a shit ton of money on it's minor league operations. Most MILB teams struggle to maintain a profit (even with the parent club paying the entire salary).

Even recording industry A&R is a loss leader.
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WWE never lost money on developmental until they decided to take NXT on the road. OVW, FCW, the original NXT, and Tough Enough never lost tens of millions of dollars.

And ROH being profitable is self evident. If it lost money Sinclair would kill it off in half a heartbeat, not pour money into better production, more pay for talent, a streaming service, a women's division, new markets to tour, more show, etc.

Basically, you don't know shit about anything.
 
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WWE never ran OVW or FCW. They just paid the salaries of the contracted workers plus money to train them. So yeah, they lost money just like the Detroit Tigers lose money on the Toledo Mud Hens.

Tough Enough was just a TV show, not a developmental program.
The "Original NXT" was also just a television show, using FCW talents. I don't know how much money they made (or if it was enough to cover salaries plus FCW outlays) but they ran for a year on US TV (to satisfy the ECW contract) then on WWE.com and HULU.
 
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