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    New censorship of Baseball Stars 2 to placate China- All mention of Taiwan & Taipei gone.

    Now I'm curious if via ACA/Hamster, SNK has also patched the Super Sidekicks games. Taiwan also appears in those titles.
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    Very interesting. This also explains why Art of Fighting 2 has been excluded from all Neo Geo Minis, ASP, and the upcoming MVSX.

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    There’s also the odd case of “Neo Turf Masters” being removed from the ACA Neo Geo release. The English setting says “Big Tournament Golf” like the Japanese setting.

    Can someone fill me in on why things pertaining to Taiwan would have the need to be censored in this day and age? Feels like a bit of a rip that you’re not getting the original game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Digmac View Post
    There’s also the odd case of “Neo Turf Masters” being removed from the ACA Neo Geo release. The English setting says “Big Tournament Golf” like the Japanese setting.

    Can someone fill me in on why things pertaining to Taiwan would have the need to be censored in this day and age? Feels like a bit of a rip that you’re not getting the original game.
    Whats up Digmac, concerning Neo Turf Masters, Augusta National, Inc. took issue with the name and now SNK doesn’t own the Neo Turf Masters mark anymore:
    http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...803:h7ov6h.2.1
    The app version of Neo Turf Masters (via DotEmu) has also been delisted.


    Concerning Taiwan, it’s been ongoing but this article lends some insight:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/w...i-ing-wen.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digmac View Post

    Can someone fill me in on why things pertaining to Taiwan would have the need to be censored in this day and age? Feels like a bit of a rip that you’re not getting the original game.
    On the PS4 ACA high score tables they don’t even display the Taiwan Flag next to the person with the score I guess so China doesn’t get butthurt, this isn’t for an SNK game but a Konami game so it’s across all games

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    As far as name and other changes this makes the case for physical games at least ones made pre PS3/Xbox 360 era
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    How long will it take before Baseball Stars 2 (fixed) and (unfixed) will turn up on ebay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leback View Post
    How long will it take before Baseball Stars 2 (fixed) and (unfixed) will turn up on ebay?

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    There's a Chinese stake in SNK and this sort of bullshit is to be expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leback View Post
    How long will it take before Baseball Stars 2 (fixed) and (unfixed) will turn up on ebay?
    With the Taiwan team blacked out on the cover with permanent marker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lachlan View Post
    There's a Chinese stake in SNK and this sort of bullshit is to be expected.
    Yeah I was going to complain about it but since they're actually Chinese owned it's par for the course. Doesn't excuse plenty of other companies self-censoring for the sweet Chinabux though.
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    Its a weird feeling being intrigued by Chinese culture and also repulsed by things like this. Guess things are very shitty and complicated no matter where you go. I hear Switzerland is nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by lachlan View Post
    There's a Chinese stake in SNK and this sort of bullshit is to be expected.
    The Chinese drove a stake through the heart of SNK as a preview of bigger stakes to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neorebel View Post
    Its a weird feeling being intrigued by Chinese culture
    Chinese culture really only exists outside of China at this point. In all the places the Chinese government hates, like Taiwan, the US, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthtownKid View Post
    Chinese culture really only exists outside of China at this point. In all the places the Chinese government hates, like Taiwan, the US, etc.
    Made me think of that Shen Yun performing group, they always perform in Philadelphia around February, the Chinese Government has tried to shut them down even here in the US, they do sound like a wacky religious cult though, but their performances are steeped in traditional Chinese culture.

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    Speaking of that, the most bizzare thing that happened at that TMG (http://www.toomanygames.com/) was Ed Flemming getting his truck front bumper stuck to a pole and ripping it clean off!! Goes to show, you shouldn't drink and drive.
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    The Chinese gov't tried to shut down Shen Yun???!!!??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neorebel View Post
    The Chinese gov't tried to shut down Shen Yun???!!!??
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    Shen Yun does not perform in China. The Chinese government has attempted to cancel Shen Yun performances through political pressure via its foreign embassies and consulates.[36][37][38][39] Chinese diplomats have also sent letters to elected officials in the West exhorting them not to attend or otherwise support the performance, which they describe as "propaganda" intended to "smear China's image

    The Chinese government attempts to stop Shen Yun from performing abroad by sending letters or e-mails to theaters.[53][54] In the United States, these attempts have backfired, notably in Orange County, California, Seattle, Washington, and Houston, Texas.[55] China's attempts to prevent shows in Spain, Netherlands, and Germany have also been refused out of respect for artistic and religious liberties.[55]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Speaking of that, the most bizzare thing that happened at that TMG (http://www.toomanygames.com/) was Ed Flemming getting his truck front bumper stuck to a pole and ripping it clean off!! Goes to show, you shouldn't drink and drive.
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    whoa whoa whoa this is a bit of a rabbit hole now!

    "The 2018 and 2019 performances included lyrics and digital displays disparaging atheism and belief in evolution as "deadly ideas" and "born of the Red Spectre",[12][46] and is a common complaint of attendees of the performance. Reviewers characterized these contents as an "anti-evolution", "religious sermon", and "cult propaganda".[47] Many viewers and reviewers complain about such elements a misrepresentation of the show's content in Shen Yun's advertising, in a way that "feels more like propaganda than straightforwardly presented cultural heritage."

    I'm gonna try to find some footage to see if this is all true. I thought it was literally just a kung fu dancing sort of gymnastics thing...

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    China gotta be harvesting those organs.

    I have a friend who went this year. I donít think she picked up on all that but she did find it boring, but I donít put too much credence in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Speaking of that, the most bizzare thing that happened at that TMG (http://www.toomanygames.com/) was Ed Flemming getting his truck front bumper stuck to a pole and ripping it clean off!! Goes to show, you shouldn't drink and drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralfakick View Post
    The Chinese government attempts to stop Shen Yun from performing abroad by sending letters or e-mails to theaters.[53][54] In the United States, these attempts have backfired, notably in Orange County, California, Seattle, Washington, and Houston, Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Fight!! View Post
    Yeah I was going to complain about it but since they're actually Chinese owned it's par for the course. Doesn't excuse plenty of other companies self-censoring for the sweet Chinabux though.
    Yeah good ole freedom fighting, liberal democratic businesses that sell out the very principles they supposedly hold dear just for some CCP bucks. It's fucking sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lachlan View Post
    Yeah good ole freedom fighting, liberal democratic businesses that sell out the very principles they supposedly hold dear just for some CCP bucks. It's fucking sickening.
    i mean, guys, what do you expect? They're companies and the only loyalty they have is to the almighty yen / dollar.

    Sad to hear about the censorship though. It's to be expected honestly. I've been paying attention to these issues for years and this is very VERY par for the course here. I mean, look at Top Gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digmac View Post

    Can someone fill me in on why things pertaining to Taiwan would have the need to be censored in this day and age?
    China says Taiwan is China.

    Taiwan says Taiwan is Taiwan.

    China is pressuring other countries, and now companies to not acknowledge Taiwan so that when they invade they will not call it an invasion, but rather just moving troops around inside China.

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