redfield0009
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Apparently there was a second drop that happened today and sold out in less than a minute
There's no advantage to these FPGA devices over emulation. The NES is completely figured out. $500 for a NES FPGA is a fucking joke. You could buy a decent enough computer to run NES, SNES, Genesis, Turbo Grafx, Saturn, Neo Geo, and other games for less than that while also having the ability to run shit like the PC versions of SF4 and Guilty Gear games.
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He ain't wrong tho bro and I've enjoyed my time on the Mister train. Emulation debate aside, a Mister setup and good quality control panel beats giving the patron saint of hot glue any more money.
There's no advantage to these FPGA devices over emulation. The NES is completely figured out. $500 for a NES FPGA is a fucking joke. You could buy a decent enough computer to run NES, SNES, Genesis, Turbo Grafx, Saturn, Neo Geo, and other games for less than that while also having the ability to run shit like the PC versions of SF4 and Guilty Gear games.
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There's no advantage to these FPGA devices over emulation. The NES is completely figured out. $500 for a NES FPGA is a fucking joke. You could buy a decent enough computer to run NES, SNES, Genesis, Turbo Grafx, Saturn, Neo Geo, and other games for less than that while also having the ability to run shit like the PC versions of SF4 and Guilty Gear games.
Software emulators have input lag, FPGA's do not. That is just one of the advantages, and a big one in my opinion.
Actually you can get next frame response with emulators now, and FPGAs can have input lag. Thanks for being part of the problem.
What software emulators have zero lag? I use runahead mode all the time, but that is not a solution to the problem, and doesn't work with everything.
What kind of poorly developed FPGA's are you using that have input lag?
You are aware you can run MiSTer on a CRT at the hardware's native refresh rate right?
I display my MiSTer on 2 CRT's and an HDMI monitor simultaneously and have never seen any of the symptoms you are talking about.
What kind of HDMI monitor do you have your MiSTer hooked up to? Or let me guess you've never used one before, and therefore are unaware of how it truly works.
I use both solutions all the time, software and FPGA, both are good for different reasons, but dismissing FPGA as worthless is a stupid thing to say.
I wasn't talking about running Mister on a CRT, was I? It's called reading comprehension. Try developing it.
You're so clueless that you didn't even realize that the games were running at the wrong speed in Mister. See, this is what I'm talking about. We have these fucking middle aged slowpokes, whose reflexes are such dog shit that they couldn't even tell if there was 10 frames of input lag, ejaculating over phony devices just because they're another physical object they can stand up next to one of their real dolls.
It's a fucking joke.
I feel like i'm in a console war with a 12 year old after reading that... maybe you are 12, I don't know.
Are you aware that since FPGA versions of Arcade games have been coming to MiSTer for example, Burger time and 1942, and so on, they have been discovering that these games have been running at the wrong speed in MAME(usually to fast) all these years, and they report these bugs, to then in turn make MAME more accurate.
So coming from someone who seems to only use software emulators, you should be happy that FPGA programmers exist, to help improve things you use.
You don't understand that there are multiple ways to run at the wrong speed. You can run at the wrong refresh rate, or you can run too fast because you're not emulating CPU wait states, bus contention etc.
Nothing Mister has done has benefited software emulation at all. Everyone knows which games are impacted by problems such as missing wait state emulation. It's not that Mister has made some shocking discoveries that no one knew about, it's simply that due to the parallelism of fpgas they get certain benefits for free (aforementioned wait states, bus contention) that you actually have to come up with more sophisticated solutions to get right in a software emulator.
There are other things that FPGAs absolutely blow at that software emulators can do much better. The netlist emulation in MAME is going to be literally decades ahead of what you can get out of FPGAs.
I know Jotego's FPGA arcade cores, when these flaws were found, were fixed in MAME as a result.
No shit, software emulation has quite a few years head start on FPGA, so we should just give up on FPGA development because software emulation is farther ahead?
What FPGA's have you used? And if you dislike them so much, why are you here?
You're totally confused dude. The 1942 fix had nothing to do with Mister.
I'm here to shit on a $500 lump of turd that provides no real value to consumers.
I honestly don't have any problem with Mister in particular. It has a niche and isn't a transparent cash grab. Those Analog products are just a complete farce, though.
You shit on everything dude. You don’t add anything to any topic. You’re here to just push your retarded stance on MAME and emulation.