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    White MVS Baggies

    Did Samurai Shodown 1 come with a white MVS bag or blue? I've seen kits with both colors and mine has a white one. IMG_20200121_162650~2.jpg

    Is the bag bootleg?

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    Mine is blue.

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    My bag is white but my balls are blue. [emoji3525]

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    Oh Christ no, this cannot be a "thing" can it? I mean, labels are one thing but the fricking bubblewrap it came in??? FFS!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidchameleon1 View Post
    Oh Christ no, this cannot be a "thing" can it? I mean, labels are one thing but the fricking bubblewrap it came in??? FFS!!
    Thanks for the feedback

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    This is a guess OK but I would say NONE of the MVS games came in a white baggie originally. This would be because the blue and pink bubble wrap are anti-static whilst as far as I know, the white bubble wrap is not anti-static. One would think SNK shipped carts in anti-static bags

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidchameleon1 View Post
    This is a guess OK but I would say NONE of the MVS games came in a white baggie originally. This would be because the blue and pink bubble wrap are anti-static whilst as far as I know, the white bubble wrap is not anti-static. One would think SNK shipped carts in anti-static bags
    That would be my guess also. Thanks for confirming my assumption with another assumption.

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    Watermarking photos of plastic bags is a diligently cautious practice lest they fall into the wrong hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonwhistle View Post
    Watermarking photos of plastic bags is a diligently cautious practice lest they fall into the wrong hands.
    I dont want anyone using my pictures for nefarious things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukejaywalker23 View Post
    I dont want anyone using my pictures for nefarious things
    Why? It's a fake plastic bag anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukejaywalker23 View Post
    I dont want anyone using my pictures for nefarious things
    What possible "nefarious" use could be made of a picture of a plastic bag?

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    Thanks for the feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidchameleon1 View Post
    Oh Christ no, this cannot be a "thing" can it? I mean, labels are one thing but the fricking bubblewrap it came in??? FFS!!
    Yes it's a thing for no other reason then some people have nothing better to buy with their money.

    Edit: Just to add to the point. It's fucking bubble wrap.

    You can find the shit at any arts and crafts store.

    The ones SNK used were just that.

    There wasn't any Neo*Geo logo on them.

    There wasn't any special sealant used.

    It's the same stupid shit as people trying to put a value to plastic baggies for the home cart manuals. It's fucking stupid and there was nothing that made these special or collectable. You can easily fabricate the bubble wrap to however you want it to be to fit the product you're protecting.

    If the color of the bubble wrap is such an OCD thing for you then by god do what makes you happy but threads like this is why this hobby has gone to shit over the years. It's not the games, It's what they come in now which make them more valuable.
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    I get what most people here a complaing about, *but* from a documenting process prospective, it is important to keep track of such information. IIRC, japanese ASOII had pink bubblewrap, Viewpoint white...thrash rally I believe the same (I have to check) and so on, most variants where around 1991/92/93 probably. It's a bit of information that comes with the game, like the release date or recalls, or whatever the story of the game was.

    So to say, I wouldn't dismiss so easily trying to be accurate, even when replacing stuff...it is information that would be lost, and like all information about a dead system, that would be a shame IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by massimiliano View Post
    I get what most people here a complaing about, *but* from a documenting process prospective, it is important to keep track of such information. IIRC, japanese ASOII had pink bubblewrap, Viewpoint white...thrash rally I believe the same (I have to check) and so on, most variants where around 1991/92/93 probably. It's a bit of information that comes with the game, like the release date or recalls, or whatever the story of the game was.

    So to say, I wouldn't dismiss so easily trying to be accurate, even when replacing stuff...it is information that would be lost, and like all information about a dead system, that would be a shame IMO.
    Somehow I feel like the moment "muh gaem preservation" becomes a reality with serious institutions doing it, even then it's gonna be some useless ignored detail. "What material did Van Gogh use to wrap his oil paintings for transport?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by massimiliano View Post
    I get what most people here a complaing about, *but* from a documenting process prospective, it is important to keep track of such information. IIRC, japanese ASOII had pink bubblewrap, Viewpoint white...thrash rally I believe the same (I have to check) and so on, most variants where around 1991/92/93 probably. It's a bit of information that comes with the game, like the release date or recalls, or whatever the story of the game was.

    So to say, I wouldn't dismiss so easily trying to be accurate, even when replacing stuff...it is information that would be lost, and like all information about a dead system, that would be a shame IMO.
    And even so what's to stop someone from counterfeiting these?

    Nothing.

    Documenting is fine but it's the assholes trying to put a monetary value to these which really fuck things up. lol

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    Who's trying to put a monetary value on it? My man is tripping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burning Fight!! View Post
    Somehow I feel like the moment "muh gaem preservation" becomes a reality with serious institutions doing it, even then it's gonna be some useless ignored detail. "What material did Van Gogh use to wrap his oil paintings for transport?"
    The institution is the community, and thanks to serious collectors we can enjoy many information about the neo, information that would be lost if it was for people like you....frankly, if you think is useless, doesn't mean it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Viewpoint
    And even so what's to stop someone from counterfeiting these?

    Nothing.

    Documenting is fine but it's the assholes trying to put a monetary value to these which really fuck things up. lol
    duh...and where exactly I implied counterfeit is justified? I'm just saying these details are important, and shouldn't be dismissed just because people have the arrogance to think they know better.

    Edit: also, this "neo-proletariat police" attitude is frankly annoying, especially coming from people who don't know shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidchameleon1 View Post
    This is a guess OK but I would say NONE of the MVS games came in a white baggie originally. This would be because the blue and pink bubble wrap are anti-static whilst as far as I know, the white bubble wrap is not anti-static. One would think SNK shipped carts in anti-static bags
    edit: (re-read original post never mind)

    just to reiterate, white/pink baggies were a thing, especially in early titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukejaywalker23 View Post
    Who's trying to put a monetary value on it? My man is tripping
    There has been many a member here actually tying to put a value on baggies many a time over the years. This isn't the 1st time this has come up along with fucktards listing home carts as complete with the manual baggie as an upselling point to push the value even higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by massimiliano View Post
    duh...and where exactly I implied counterfeit is justified? I'm just saying these details are important, and shouldn't be dismissed just because people have the arrogance to think they know better.
    That's the issue. You yourself might not think it's justified but there are many people here who wouldn't think twice about ripping people off with fake shit.

    Dion alone was one of the reasons so many carts started to get "freaked". Nobody knew better back then since the internet was still in it's infancy & people like him, Chris Mullins, Chris Ray & many other assholes took advantage of people for hundreds if not thousands of dollars including Shawn himself who also got taken for a ride.


    Edit: also, this "neo-proletariat police" attitude is frankly annoying, especially coming from people who don't know shit.
    I've literally had almost every single home and MVS cart pass thru my hands over the years outside of Euro Kizuna but hey, I can only tell you that while you're a guy who's obviously an honest dude, there are fucking scumbags who would take advantage of you without a second thought.

    The baggies I've seen is just one ways that people have trying to inflate the value of their collections. You can document it sure but don't think for a moment there's someone not lurking in the shadows ready to start a business off people's OCD problems.

    And yes to clarify again, There have been people on these forums trying to place a value on these bubble wrap baggies.

    If anything with all hobbies I'm sure the bubble *See what I did there?!?* will burst sooner or later but as with home carts being costly back in the day when they were new releases, Seeing them now at the 9k to 12k mark on some of the more rarer titles is just outlandishly fucking stupid.
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    Viewpoint, I appreciate your concern about scammers/flippers and all the negative people revolving around this hobby, I really do.

    Said that, I don't see really how this applies with OP. He asked for an information, and the reactions have been "ffss, it's just baggies!" "just play the game!" "do something more constructive with your money" lines .. this is the "neo-proletariat police" I was referring to, like immediately telling people "the value of money" and what to do with it, is becoming a sport here, derailing systematically even normal conversations...it smells of trying to bring down everyone to the lowest denominator, just because some people can't do better (even if it means dismissing information in the process).


    Also, looks you are taking my words like I'm somehow in contrast with your anti baggie-speculation crusade, which, for the second time, I'm telling you I'm not.
    To reply to your point, just because people speculate over it, you can't denigrate the consistency of collecting complete/period correct stuff, including the manual baggies, which btw differed through time, same as for the MVS baggies...or the early vinyl boxes (taller/shorter)...all this stuff is sometimes the only information to tell print runs and shouldn't be swapped if possible, even less dismissed as marginal...it is not.


    Please don't take the following as a provocative comment, quite the contrary, but if you had such encyclopedic experience with Japanese MVSs, please take some time to document the baggie colors for all the games...*that* would be quite useful, as clearly it is an area where information is still partial.

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    kudos to Lukejaywalker23 for how he replied every comment so far, owning pretty much all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viewpoint View Post
    There has been many a member here actually tying to put a value on baggies many a time over the years. This isn't the 1st time this has come up along with fucktards listing home carts as complete with the manual baggie as an upselling point to push the value even higher.
    You do know that I'm just asking if it's the correct bag because I've never seen anyone else with a white bag in a SS kit right?

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    I don't think the point is to pretend that the bag is special or put a monetary value on it. If I bought a game new 30 years ago and still have the original packaging the way that it came, then that game is an unadulterated minty original, and I can take pride in the fact that it's original. The type of bag may not have an intrinsic value, but it does to me.

    In the same way, when buying a used game, you can either buy it in the original condition it was sold from the factory, or with modifications done to it to fix it up (replacement label, mismatched serials, EPROM repairs, etc). It still has value, but you're not collecting it the way it was originally sold back in the day.

    It certainly doesn't matter to everyone, but it is different than the way the game company originally made it, historically speaking.
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