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    PULSTAR

    HI, this is one of my Pulstar MVS games.
    Now Im not sure if it is a Bootleg, so called Coversion or what ever that means on MVS Games, or maybe Original? the Boards are SNK Originals.
    I Cant find it on MVS scans.

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    Bootleg.

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    Yep, 100% bootleg.

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    Booty booty booty booty rockin everywhere

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    Shake that booty!

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    Guys, don't be so quick to call bootleg. Maybe it's a 'repro'.

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    PULSTAR

    Can we all agree that the pcbs (sans bootleg roms) are original SNK parts though? Even if the case is a Yaton special?

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg_sanwich View Post
    Can we all agree that the pcbs (sans bootleg roms) are original SNK parts though? Even if the case is a Yaton special?
    Yeah, but lots of bootlegs use original boards.
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    Eventually no Bootleg sounds good But when it’s a repro did SNK made reprogramation of games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TK86079 View Post
    Eventually no Bootleg sounds good But when it’s a repro did SNK made reprogramation of games?
    No, repro is short for reproduction. Which is usually done illegally by an unauthorized 3rd party.

    Conversions are usually AES games that where converted to another AES game by transplanting the official MVS roms onto the AES PCBs.

    In the context of NeoGeo games, SNK never authorized any 3rd party to reproduce, or convert their games. Which makes them all bootlegs.
    Last edited by Niko; 04-02-2019 at 01:44 PM.

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    @Niko

    Thank you, this is a explaination that is fully understandable.
    One more thing is the case, egg_sanwich talked about Yaton special case.
    I found something about Yaton, that he was a seller of games. Did he made his own cases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TK86079 View Post
    @Niko

    Thank you, this is a explaination that is fully understandable.
    One more thing is the case, egg_sanwich talked about Yaton special case.
    I found something about Yaton, that he was a seller of games. Did he made his own cases?
    Yaton is a reseller who has a history of selling some of the dirtiest, heavily used, parts with cheap repairs. In essence, the definition of "gamer condition".

    Those light blue cases are Chinese reproduction cases, the original game case was probably heavily scratched and or broken and was replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TK86079 View Post
    Eventually no Bootleg sounds good But when itís a repro did SNK made reprogramation of games?
    SNK occasionally did reuse PCBs but they'd still be using mask roms, not modern (and mismatched) eproms and flash chips. The only time they had eproms was during a repair or a last minute change, and it would only be one, maybe two chips.

    In the case of this Pulstar, what we have here is someone took some cheap official game, programmed Pulstar onto the cheapest used flash/eprom chips China could provide, and swapped the rom chips. So not only do we have a bootleg Pulstar, but some real game got murdered in the process of making it. If you paid more than $30 for this you got got.

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    I bought it about 15jears ago, and I always thought it’s a Bootleg, and it cost me about 40 or 50€. But I already have a original kit of the game. For me it was interesting because of the original PCBs and the chips on the first board. I think it’s unsellable if it’s a boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TK86079 View Post
    I think it’s unsellable if it’s a boot.
    You can sell it, just indicate it's a bootleg. Some people don't care.

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    The !Arcade! conversions are the exact opposite of that. They use genuine ROMs but custom boards.

    Quote Originally Posted by egg_sanwich View Post
    Can we all agree that the pcbs (sans bootleg roms) are original SNK parts though? Even if the case is a Yaton special?

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